Can "bad" schools get better?

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Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

Coupled with common core disaster

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

Coupled with common core disaster

What Common Core disaster? The Common Core is standards. Also, the State of Maryland adopted them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

Coupled with common core disaster

What Common Core disaster? The Common Core is standards. Also, the State of Maryland adopted them.

45+ states have adopted the CC standards. Even states that claim they haven't adopted it have done so in some way shape or form, including VA:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/421492.page

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do know that RM and Blair were once considered no so good and their reputations are much better now.

The only reason either one of them are considered good is because they put magnets in them. THAT is the reason they put magnets/ib in them. The rest of the normal kids are just the same.

The magnet was added about 30 years ago as was the Ritchie Park Neighborhood. King Farm , Falls Grove and and Parc Place neighborhoods are much more recent changes.

They also overcrowded the whole school system too. Isn't RM trying for an addition after just a few years of building a brand new school?

[Anonymous]

No RM is not overcapacity and I have seen nothing about any plan to add to it. Agreed they have overcrowded the cluster. Julius West MS is very over capacity and getting an addition. All the ESs in the cluster are also crowded.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

Well hate to burst your bubble but less white, less affluent, less native born = lower test scores, more resources used on FARMS, ESL, and less attention your average kid is going to get in the classroom. It also equals more crime, higher taxes and a decrease in real estate prices. So you can cry racism but MC has a lot to be concerned about that more affluent white people are leaving (7% decrease since 2000) and the increase in poor hispanics is 3x the amount since 1995. SES makes a big difference in a school district and community.

[Anonymous]

^ ??

I don't think you are bursting PP's bubble. I don't think PP was crying racism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op - assuming you are defining "good" or "bad" based on academic performance, I think the answer to your question is "not likely." In my view, the MCPS has turned the corner already. Its good days are behind us.

This.

+1. If you have young children, I'd recommend you look around other school districts.

OP, when the PPs say, "MCPS's good days are behind us," what they mean is: the population of Montgomery County is becoming less white, less affluent, and less native-born.

Well hate to burst your bubble but less white, less affluent, less native born = lower test scores, more resources used on FARMS, ESL, and less attention your average kid is going to get in the classroom. It also equals more crime, higher taxes and a decrease in real estate prices. So you can cry racism but MC has a lot to be concerned about that more affluent white people are leaving (7% decrease since 2000) and the increase in poor hispanics is 3x the amount since 1995. SES makes a big difference in a school district and community.

Who said anything about racism, besides you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No RM is not overcapacity and I have seen nothing about any plan to add to it. Agreed they have overcrowded the cluster. Julius West MS is very over capacity and getting an addition. All the ESs in the cluster are also crowded.

Soooooo don't you think RM will be very over capacity in 1-2 more years even though it was JUST built? Poor planning. Not to mention that the Town Center and Park Potomac are STILL building!! And nothing in the cluster has started yet. They are still begging for funds and start dates. You are looking at minimum 3-4 years for anything to get completed.

Please try to come out on Wednesday, November 12th at 7:00 to the RM Cluster testimony on the CIP Budget before the Board of Education - this is where we advocate for construction funds for RMES #5, the JW addition, and a feasibility study for an addition at RM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do know that RM and Blair were once considered no so good and their reputations are much better now.

The only reason either one of them are considered good is because they put magnets in them. THAT is the reason they put magnets/ib in them. The rest of the normal kids are just the same.

The magnet was added about 30 years ago as was the Ritchie Park Neighborhood. King Farm , Falls Grove and and Parc Place neighborhoods are much more recent changes.

They also overcrowded the whole school system too. Isn't RM trying for an addition after just a few years of building a brand new school?

Richard Montgomery HS was under capacity last year.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/30/5974053.page

There is a high school that is getting an addition just a few years after basically having a brand new school, but it's Clarksburg HS.

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Anonymous wrote:I think in case of RM, some high priced new housing changed the demographic a bitin teh last 10-15 years. I am not sure about Blair. Einstein has really turned around based on the school itself. I was just talking to A DCC parent who said it was her child's first choice..

Einstein is still terrible

What is your first-hand, recent experience with Einstein?

Ignore the Einstein troll. He/she shows up in every thread about DCC schools and trashes Einstein. When asked about personal experience with the school, troll conveniently doesn't reply.

NP here - I think PP is right though. Einstein is not one of the super performing schools in MCPS

Either is RM. QO has better test scores across the board without any IB program, especially with diverse students. So take the 17% of the smartest kids MC and throw their test scores out and RM looks horrible. Adding Fallsgrove doesn't make RM that much better. More than half the kids in the SFH go to private school.

I don't think that's true. I think for the Black/Hispanic students, the test scores between the two schools are pretty comparable, at least as far as the MSA scores are concerned, with RM students scoring slightly better.

And you're right, adding Fallsgrove wouldn't make RM any better because Fallsgrove is not the only high income area zoned for RM.

But you are taking into account the IB program that QO does not have. Over 15% of the population. What do you think the scores would look like without them? I think RM has gotten slightly better since the 70/80's but lets not kid ourselves. You still have the same neighborhoods going to them. Overpopulating with some new home developments doesn't add much. The high SES send their kids to privates and many people move into the new condos/apartments. They are not high SES by any means. Just adds to the overcrowding of the cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do know that RM and Blair were once considered no so good and their reputations are much better now.

The only reason either one of them are considered good is because they put magnets in them. THAT is the reason they put magnets/ib in them. The rest of the normal kids are just the same.

The magnet was added about 30 years ago as was the Ritchie Park Neighborhood. King Farm , Falls Grove and and Parc Place neighborhoods are much more recent changes.

They also overcrowded the whole school system too. Isn't RM trying for an addition after just a few years of building a brand new school?

Richard Montgomery HS was under capacity last year.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/30/5974053.page

There is a high school that is getting an addition just a few years after basically having a brand new school, but it's Clarksburg HS.

Um, I think you are wrong. Look at the poster above you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do know that RM and Blair were once considered no so good and their reputations are much better now.

The only reason either one of them are considered good is because they put magnets in them. THAT is the reason they put magnets/ib in them. The rest of the normal kids are just the same.

The magnet was added about 30 years ago as was the Ritchie Park Neighborhood. King Farm , Falls Grove and and Parc Place neighborhoods are much more recent changes.

They also overcrowded the whole school system too. Isn't RM trying for an addition after just a few years of building a brand new school?

Richard Montgomery HS was under capacity last year.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/30/5974053.page

There is a high school that is getting an addition just a few years after basically having a brand new school, but it's Clarksburg HS.

Um, I think you are wrong. Look at the poster above you.

What am I wrong about? RM wasn't under capacity last year? If the RM PTA wants to ask for an addition, they should.