Why do St. Pat's people keep saying they are a feeder school to STA and NCS when they are not?

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Anonymous wrote:Because it is everyone's goal to connect with the glory that is STA/NCS.

Let's not be delusional now!

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Anonymous wrote:OP must have a kid at Beauvoir. It's an open secret that the STA and NCS faculty send their kids to St. Pat's because the education is better.

Wow, what a ridiculous statement. Some NCS/St. Alban's staff do send there children to St. Pat's but QUITE a few send them to Beauvoir as well, in fact the majority. Not all schools are a good fit for the same children or families. Thank goodness there are so many great schools to chose from. It can not be inferred that St. Pat's must be academically superior and that is why cathedral staff send their kids there. There are a ton of other factors. Also, let's be realistic, among the private schools there really isn't that much of an academic distinction between the early childhood programs. I say this as a very happy Beauvoir parent. I feel pretty confident that my child would get a similar academic experience at NPS, St. Pat's, WES, etc. I also think the school rivalry is stupid.

Not ridiculous at all, as I'm am close with quite a few of the lower school faculty and admin. Beauvior alum are weaker students.

New poster here - vitriol like this from St. Pat's families is partly why I think there will be a steep decline in St. Pat's students admitted this year. STA/NCS want a strong community and with St. Pat's parents - especially in recent years- badmouthing their fellow Beauvoir alums so openly and by being exclusive - this does not contribute positively to the community.

Although the quoted post is in poor taste, I'm sure the St. Albans admissions officers have better things to do (and better judgement) than to (a) hang out on DCUM; (b) compile a list of comments in poor taste allegedly coming from parents at another school; and (c) take retribution the next year against children from that school for the alleged bad attitude of the parents at that school.

It's really about the kids. What the parents do or don't do doesn't make a difference, as much as we all might like to think that our grace and wit during the admissions process will tip the scales.

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Anonymous wrote:OP must have a kid at Beauvoir. It's an open secret that the STA and NCS faculty send their kids to St. Pat's because the education is better.

Wow, what a ridiculous statement. Some NCS/St. Alban's staff do send there children to St. Pat's but QUITE a few send them to Beauvoir as well, in fact the majority. Not all schools are a good fit for the same children or families. Thank goodness there are so many great schools to chose from. It can not be inferred that St. Pat's must be academically superior and that is why cathedral staff send their kids there. There are a ton of other factors. Also, let's be realistic, among the private schools there really isn't that much of an academic distinction between the early childhood programs. I say this as a very happy Beauvoir parent. I feel pretty confident that my child would get a similar academic experience at NPS, St. Pat's, WES, etc. I also think the school rivalry is stupid.

Not ridiculous at all, as I'm am close with quite a few of the lower school faculty and admin. Beauvior alum are weaker students.

New poster here - vitriol like this from St. Pat's families is partly why I think there will be a steep decline in St. Pat's students admitted this year. STA/NCS want a strong community and with St. Pat's parents - especially in recent years- badmouthing their fellow Beauvoir alums so openly and by being exclusive - this does not contribute positively to the community.

Although the quoted post is in poor taste, I'm sure the St. Albans admissions officers have better things to do (and better judgement) than to (a) hang out on DCUM; (b) compile a list of comments in poor taste allegedly coming from parents at another school; and (c) take retribution the next year against children from that school for the alleged bad attitude of the parents at that school.

It's really about the kids. What the parents do or don't do doesn't make a difference, as much as we all might like to think that our grace and wit during the admissions process will tip the scales.

I disagree with this, as creating a strong community comes from the families and parents as much as from the students. If you have parents badmouthing their fellow class students, as has been done by St. Pat's families that say very derogative things about the Beauvoir students (before and even after they have been admitted to STA) then yes that would affect the sense of community negatively. Btw you don't have to read DCUM to have heard these things.

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Generally speaking, do most St. Pat's parents aim for STA or NCS? Is it the main school trajectory for most families?

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kids from St. Pats go all over.

Generally speaking, most kids leave after 6th grade.

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St Pats parents do not put down any parents. I don't know anyone ever who had something bad to say about another school. I suspect a troll. The only thing that may be true is someone may opt for St. Pats purely because they don't want to make a next decision on school after third grade. Also, not everyone wants to go to St Albans. Doesn't mean it is not a wonderful school. It is but it isn't the only school. That would be another reason for not going to Beauvoir. Even that I am told is changing since some Beauvoir families are opting not to send on to Cathedral schools. As for the original flaming post. St. Pats does have a feeder rep to the Cathedral schools because it is Episcopalian and yes there is a relationship. There is the same relationship at WES and Grace etc etc. This would not make the school a Beauvoir which does early application but would be more helpful than a primary school that wasn't Episcopalian. Does this make sense.

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Ridiculous. Folks claiming "St Pats parents with kids who move on to St Albans bad mouth Beauvoir" are absolutely full of it. I have never, ever heard a St Pats parent in any way bad mouth or denigrate Beauvoir or it's students. In fact, if you hear any thing mean spirited said in this regard, it's the Beauvoir parents who say families only choose St Pats if they can/don't get in to Beauvoir.

St Pats families are generally quite proud of and happy with the education their kids get, especially if they end up at their first choice school next. That basically sums up the families who move on to the close after 3rd, 7th or 9th at St Pats.

While I have kids at both schools, I would not call St. Pats a feeder in the traditional sense of having actual academic institutional ties to STA/NCS. That distinction is Beauvoir's alone.

I would say that, after the largest influx from Beauvoir at 4th, St Pats is the independent school which sends the next largest number of students on to STA/NCS cumulatively. This is not a trend that will diminish anytime soon. In fact, it continues to increase year over year.

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After reading through this thread, I would say that Beauvoir and St Patrick's parents (students) deserve each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it is everyone's goal to connect with the glory that is STA/NCS.

Let's not be delusional now!

I'm pretty sure this poster was joking.

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Anonymous wrote:kids from St. Pats go all over.

Generally speaking, most kids leave after 6th grade.

Why do they generally leave after 6th grade

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New poster here - vitriol like this from St. Pat's families is partly why I think there will be a steep decline in St. Pat's students admitted this year. STA/NCS want a strong community and with St. Pat's parents - especially in recent years- badmouthing their fellow Beauvoir alums so openly and by being exclusive - this does not contribute positively to the community.

One would hope that the admissions team at STA/NCS is smarter than this.

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Anonymous wrote:OP must have a kid at Beauvoir. It's an open secret that the STA and NCS faculty send their kids to St. Pat's because the education is better.

Wow, what a ridiculous statement. Some NCS/St. Alban's staff do send there children to St. Pat's but QUITE a few send them to Beauvoir as well, in fact the majority. Not all schools are a good fit for the same children or families. Thank goodness there are so many great schools to chose from. It can not be inferred that St. Pat's must be academically superior and that is why cathedral staff send their kids there. There are a ton of other factors. Also, let's be realistic, among the private schools there really isn't that much of an academic distinction between the early childhood programs. I say this as a very happy Beauvoir parent. I feel pretty confident that my child would get a similar academic experience at NPS, St. Pat's, WES, etc. I also think the school rivalry is stupid.

Not ridiculous at all, as I'm am close with quite a few of the lower school faculty and admin. Beauvior alum are weaker students.

New poster here - vitriol like this from St. Pat's families is partly why I think there will be a steep decline in St. Pat's students admitted this year. STA/NCS want a strong community and with St. Pat's parents - especially in recent years- badmouthing their fellow Beauvoir alums so openly and by being exclusive - this does not contribute positively to the community.

It's even worse than that. I once saw a St. Pat's parent picking on a Beauvoir PK student. When the Beauvoir student's father made his way over to interject, the St. Pat's parent kicked his walker right out from under him.