Why do St. Pat's people keep saying they are a feeder school to STA and NCS when they are not?

[Anonymous]

I was just addressing the OP's comments:

I find it so annoying whenever St. Pat's people keep saying they are a feeder school to NCS/STA. There is only one feeder school and that is Beauvoir. There are so many wonderful school and students applying and I am sure the STA is taking a good look at all of these schools and students. St. Pat's is a good school but not the only good school.

So in terms of "parsing" it out, yes strictly speaking Beauvoir is the primary feeder. This thread is pretty silly though. So many kids from all different sorts of schools, public and private, are admitted to St. Alban's. I think the OP takes issue with the perception, rightly or wrongly, that somehow St. Pat's sends more kids to St. A's than Beauvoir.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was just addressing the OP's comments:

I find it so annoying whenever St. Pat's people keep saying they are a feeder school to NCS/STA. There is only one feeder school and that is Beauvoir. There are so many wonderful school and students applying and I am sure the STA is taking a good look at all of these schools and students. St. Pat's is a good school but not the only good school.

So in terms of "parsing" it out, yes strictly speaking Beauvoir is the primary feeder. This thread is pretty silly though. So many kids from all different sorts of schools, public and private, are admitted to St. Alban's. I think the OP takes issue with the perception, rightly or wrongly, that somehow St. Pat's sends more kids to St. A's than Beauvoir.

Oh come on, nobody ever says or implies that St Pats sends MORE kids to STA/NCS than Beauvoir. IF anyone says or implies that St Pats is an unofficial feeder to STA/NCS (and it would have to be unofficial as there is no formal connection like there is for Beauvoir) all that is being said (or implied) is that St. Pats tends to send several kids to STA/NCS every year. That is true. Every year several St pats grads go on to the upper two Cathedral schools. There is absolutely no competition here with Beauvoir. In fact, I believe that most St Pats kids go on to the upper Cathedral schools in 7th and 9th, only a few do so at 4th and not even every year. Most parents who choose a K-6 or K-8, like St Pats, do so because they want a lengthier time in which to decide what the best middle and or upper school will be for their child, at least more than through just 3rd grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was just addressing the OP's comments:

I find it so annoying whenever St. Pat's people keep saying they are a feeder school to NCS/STA. There is only one feeder school and that is Beauvoir. There are so many wonderful school and students applying and I am sure the STA is taking a good look at all of these schools and students. St. Pat's is a good school but not the only good school.

So in terms of "parsing" it out, yes strictly speaking Beauvoir is the primary feeder. This thread is pretty silly though. So many kids from all different sorts of schools, public and private, are admitted to St. Alban's. I think the OP takes issue with the perception, rightly or wrongly, that somehow St. Pat's sends more kids to St. A's than Beauvoir.

Oh come on, nobody ever says or implies that St Pats sends MORE kids to STA/NCS than Beauvoir. IF anyone says or implies that St Pats is an unofficial feeder to STA/NCS (and it would have to be unofficial as there is no formal connection like there is for Beauvoir) all that is being said (or implied) is that St. Pats tends to send several kids to STA/NCS every year. That is true. Every year several St pats grads go on to the upper two Cathedral schools. There is absolutely no competition here with Beauvoir. In fact, I believe that most St Pats kids go on to the upper Cathedral schools in 7th and 9th, only a few do so at 4th and not even every year. Most parents who choose a K-6 or K-8, like St Pats, do so because they want a lengthier time in which to decide what the best middle and or upper school will be for their child, at least more than through just 3rd grade.

Your right. We are on the same page here. The whole Beauvoir/St. Pat's discussion is ridiculous. Exasperating really.

[Anonymous]

St. Pat's has an excellent relationship with St. Alban's & NCS. With that said, I agree the word "feeder" is incorrect. It is especially inappropriate to use because St. Alban's has an official feeder school, Beauvoir. The by-laws of the Protestant Episcopal Church of the Diocese of Washington (PECD) include language which essentially requires NCS & St. Alban's to accept a certain number of applicants from Beauvoir. (Some say the mystery number/percentage is 85%). St. Patrick's probably has the second most students at St. Alban's & NCS in large part due to St. Patrick's leadership & administration who previously taught at Beauvoir & St. Alban's. Although my family was a part of the Beauvoir community, I have deep respect for St. Patrick's.

Finally, although I definitely feel that the word "feeder" is not the right word to describe the relationship between St. Pat's & STA, I do think it is fair to say, that St. Pat's has a VERY close relationship with St. Alban's. If the leadership of St. Patrick's lobbies for a student to be accepted at St. Alban's, then providing STA has spaces (which have not be offered to qualified legacy applicants and/or "current families" which includes families w/children at Beauvoir & NCS). With that said, I have friends whose kids had straight A's at St. Pat's but did not test well on the ssats and were politely told that their kids were probably not right for NCS & St. Alban's.

[Anonymous]

Say what you will about STA, but St. Pat's is clearly a feeder to Landon. Last 5 years: 51 applied, 49 accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Say what you will about STA, but St. Pat's is clearly a feeder to Landon. Last 5 years: 51 applied, 49 accepted.

That is only 10 a year. Doesn't seem that much.

[Anonymous]

St Pat's is a feeder school to NCA/STA. OP, do your homework and check out the stats. It's close to 95%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Say what you will about STA, but St. Pat's is clearly a feeder to Landon. Last 5 years: 51 applied, 49 accepted.

That is only 10 a year. Doesn't seem that much.

It's still a decent number. I don't know much about Landon's admissions. Are there many schools that send them more than 10 a year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Say what you will about STA, but St. Pat's is clearly a feeder to Landon. Last 5 years: 51 applied, 49 accepted.

That is only 10 a year. Doesn't seem that much.

THAT'S 5 MORE THAN ST ALBANS! At ABOUT 4-5 a year, you had claimed that St. Pat's a feeder to St. Albans so at 10 year, St Pats must definitely be a feeder to Landon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Say what you will about STA, but St. Pat's is clearly a feeder to Landon. Last 5 years: 51 applied, 49 accepted.

Are you sure those numbers aren't flipped?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:St Pat's is a feeder school to NCA/STA. OP, do your homework and check out the stats. It's close to 95%.

STA has an amazing admissions team and I am sure they are not limiting themselves to St. Pat's as a feeder because then they would be missing out on so many truly wonderful applicants from all over the area, including VA and MD. There are many wonderful families at St. Pat's but the country club crowd from there is really cliquey and honestly that's not what STA is about. If they are admitting students from St. Pat's, hopefully it is the families that embrace diversity and being inclusive and don't only socialize with certain people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:St Pat's is a feeder school to NCA/STA. OP, do your homework and check out the stats. It's close to 95%.

I think this is headed for a decline, as there are so many qualified applicants to choose from all over DC, VA, and MD. Also while there are many nice families at St. Pats, many are part of the country club crowd that can be very exclusive. In addition the open Beauvoir bashing from a few St. Pat's families has really rubbed people the wrong way, as Beauvoir is part of the Cathedral family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP must have a kid at Beauvoir. It's an open secret that the STA and NCS faculty send their kids to St. Pat's because the education is better.

Wow, what a ridiculous statement. Some NCS/St. Alban's staff do send there children to St. Pat's but QUITE a few send them to Beauvoir as well, in fact the majority. Not all schools are a good fit for the same children or families. Thank goodness there are so many great schools to chose from. It can not be inferred that St. Pat's must be academically superior and that is why cathedral staff send their kids there. There are a ton of other factors. Also, let's be realistic, among the private schools there really isn't that much of an academic distinction between the early childhood programs. I say this as a very happy Beauvoir parent. I feel pretty confident that my child would get a similar academic experience at NPS, St. Pat's, WES, etc. I also think the school rivalry is stupid.

Not ridiculous at all, as I'm am close with quite a few of the lower school faculty and admin. Beauvior alum are weaker students.

[Anonymous]

What about sheridan? Is sheridan a feeder school for STA or Ncs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP must have a kid at Beauvoir. It's an open secret that the STA and NCS faculty send their kids to St. Pat's because the education is better.

Wow, what a ridiculous statement. Some NCS/St. Alban's staff do send there children to St. Pat's but QUITE a few send them to Beauvoir as well, in fact the majority. Not all schools are a good fit for the same children or families. Thank goodness there are so many great schools to chose from. It can not be inferred that St. Pat's must be academically superior and that is why cathedral staff send their kids there. There are a ton of other factors. Also, let's be realistic, among the private schools there really isn't that much of an academic distinction between the early childhood programs. I say this as a very happy Beauvoir parent. I feel pretty confident that my child would get a similar academic experience at NPS, St. Pat's, WES, etc. I also think the school rivalry is stupid.

Not ridiculous at all, as I'm am close with quite a few of the lower school faculty and admin. Beauvior alum are weaker students.

New poster here - vitriol like this from St. Pat's families is partly why I think there will be a steep decline in St. Pat's students admitted this year. STA/NCS want a strong community and with St. Pat's parents - especially in recent years- badmouthing their fellow Beauvoir alums so openly and by being exclusive - this does not contribute positively to the community.