College parent helicoptering!

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Anonymous wrote:Plus "asking questions on behalf of their kid?" If the kid can't ask himself, he's not ready for college.

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Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.

Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.

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Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.

Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.

Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.

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Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.

Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.

Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.

Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.

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Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.

Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.

Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.

Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.

Well for the 99.99% of kids who aren't getting letters from a Senator (by the way, ), it does matter, and the words the professor noted are exactly the kinds of things an employer is looking for, so it is a very relevant warning.

PS Women can be professors, too.

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Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.

Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.

Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.

Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.

Well for the 99.99% of kids who aren't getting letters from a Senator (by the way, ), it does matter, and the words the professor noted are exactly the kinds of things an employer is looking for, so it is a very relevant warning.

PS Women can be professors, too.

99% of kids don't care to get a recommendation from a professor. It his arrogance that give academics a bad reputation.

You notice there is no thread what is more prestigious a professor or a doctor.

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jewish moms have helicoptered since before helicopters were invented.

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"My son will be in X dorm. Who cleans the bathrooms? It has been a heated debate in our house about whether or not to bring cleaning supplies!"

I wonder if Snowflake even knows how to clean a bathroom.

I spent the second week of college teaching other kids how to operate washing machines and dryers. I had been responsible for my own laundry since I was 11, and I was shocked that a parent would send their kid to college without teaching them such a basic skill. I wondered how someone could get to be 18 and not know this.

Maybe because other families are different from yours? Sure, yours may be better. But it's different.

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"My son will be in X dorm. Who cleans the bathrooms? It has been a heated debate in our house about whether or not to bring cleaning supplies!"

I wonder if Snowflake even knows how to clean a bathroom.

I spent the second week of college teaching other kids how to operate washing machines and dryers. I had been responsible for my own laundry since I was 11, and I was shocked that a parent would send their kid to college without teaching them such a basic skill. I wondered how someone could get to be 18 and not know this.

Maybe because other families are different from yours? Sure, yours may be better. But it's different.

Yea, all families are different. My mom never taught me how to use one, either. I learned it on my own. It's called reading the instructions on the machine lid. My mom also never taught me how to cook. I finally had to learn at 40 when I decided to take a little bit of time off to be a stay at home mom. We all learn these things eventually, but it would've a lot easier if my parents taught me some basic life skills when I was younger. I plan on teaching my kids how to do their laundry and cook way before they leave home for college.

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Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.

Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.

Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.

Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.

Well for the 99.99% of kids who aren't getting letters from a Senator (by the way, ), it does matter, and the words the professor noted are exactly the kinds of things an employer is looking for, so it is a very relevant warning.

PS Women can be professors, too.

99% of kids don't care to get a recommendation from a professor. It his arrogance that give academics a bad reputation.

You notice there is no thread what is more prestigious a professor or a doctor.

Oh, the ignorance on here is stifling.

First, medical students are REQUIRED to get several recommendations from professors before and during medical school, which demolishes your point entirely.

Second and most important, the disrespect shown on here towards those in education is exactly why the US is not ranked higher in academic achievement.
No, professors in this country are forced to bend over backwards to cater to students and their parents. The university administration forces them to never give a bad grade or critique their students. Their careers are dependent on student ratings, which is veritable folly, since student reviews are higher if their grades are higher.

I have taught at the college level here and I have been a student in European institutions. Coming from abroad, I was warned specifically that I could not grade the same way I was used to and that the university could be sued if I didn't sugar-coat everything. The level of academic rigor is much, much higher, in Europe and elsewhere, and the professors don't hesitate to tell you exactly what's wrong with your work at the earliest opportunity! Here the molly-coddling and fear of being sued is through the roof, and with growing global competition this generation of students will not survive if they don't learn to take direction and criticism.

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I think if a parent wants to help they should study the online undergraduate catalogue to learn about requirements of various majors, and be a resource for the student. I've found the academic advising on campus to be weak. If a student might struggle to complete college, poor advising will assure it.

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Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.

Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.

Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.

Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.

Well for the 99.99% of kids who aren't getting letters from a Senator (by the way, ), it does matter, and the words the professor noted are exactly the kinds of things an employer is looking for, so it is a very relevant warning.

PS Women can be professors, too.

99% of kids don't care to get a recommendation from a professor. It his arrogance that give academics a bad reputation.

You notice there is no thread what is more prestigious a professor or a doctor.

Oh, the ignorance on here is stifling.

First, medical students are REQUIRED to get several recommendations from professors before and during medical school, which demolishes your point entirely.

Second and most important, the disrespect shown on here towards those in education is exactly why the US is not ranked higher in academic achievement.
No, professors in this country are forced to bend over backwards to cater to students and their parents. The university administration forces them to never give a bad grade or critique their students. Their careers are dependent on student ratings, which is veritable folly, since student reviews are higher if their grades are higher.

I have taught at the college level here and I have been a student in European institutions. Coming from abroad, I was warned specifically that I could not grade the same way I was used to and that the university could be sued if I didn't sugar-coat everything. The level of academic rigor is much, much higher, in Europe and elsewhere, and the professors don't hesitate to tell you exactly what's wrong with your work at the earliest opportunity! Here the molly-coddling and fear of being sued is through the roof, and with growing global competition this generation of students will not survive if they don't learn to take direction and criticism.

Yada Yama yada.... You are a professor so you don't really understand how the real working world works.

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Grade inflation in college is real and pretty extreme.

I agree with PP that all these people who denigrate teachers seem so surprised when (1) teaching doesn't attract the best and the brightest and (2) the profession is devalued.

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College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.


I have no problem with parents making sure that the college and professors are providing their child with a high-quality education, especially since they are paying for it, in many cases! You wouldn't say the same about a shareholder checking in on a business that they've invested in, would you?

You can try to contact professors or administrators, but most of them won't talk to you if your child hasn't waived their FERPA rights. Students are made aware of their FERPA rights and the consequences of waiving them. Most students do not waive at my institution so if a parent has a problem with their kid's grades, they have to take it up with their kid and leave the professors out of it. This alone cuts down on a lot of the helicoptering.

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Anonymous wrote:College prof here --- Parents who help with college papers are preventing their kids from learning. Parents who contact professors or administrators on their child's behalf get a reputation as nutbags. When we have to write a letter of recommendation for your child for grad school or a job, we are not inclined to describe them as mature, self-starters, energetic go-getters, etc.

Don't worry our recommendation is coming from a Senator.

Oh wow. So many reasons why I feel sorry for your kid. Not that you would get it.

Real the professor has no clue how little his input matters.

Well for the 99.99% of kids who aren't getting letters from a Senator (by the way, ), it does matter, and the words the professor noted are exactly the kinds of things an employer is looking for, so it is a very relevant warning.

PS Women can be professors, too.

99% of kids don't care to get a recommendation from a professor. It his arrogance that give academics a bad reputation.

You notice there is no thread what is more prestigious a professor or a doctor.

Oh, the ignorance on here is stifling.

First, medical students are REQUIRED to get several recommendations from professors before and during medical school, which demolishes your point entirely.

Second and most important, the disrespect shown on here towards those in education is exactly why the US is not ranked higher in academic achievement.
No, professors in this country are forced to bend over backwards to cater to students and their parents. The university administration forces them to never give a bad grade or critique their students. Their careers are dependent on student ratings, which is veritable folly, since student reviews are higher if their grades are higher.

I have taught at the college level here and I have been a student in European institutions. Coming from abroad, I was warned specifically that I could not grade the same way I was used to and that the university could be sued if I didn't sugar-coat everything. The level of academic rigor is much, much higher, in Europe and elsewhere, and the professors don't hesitate to tell you exactly what's wrong with your work at the earliest opportunity! Here the molly-coddling and fear of being sued is through the roof, and with growing global competition this generation of students will not survive if they don't learn to take direction and criticism.

[b]Yada Yama yada.... You are a professor so you don't really understand how the real working world works.

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And you're an ignorant fool....but by all means, keep spewing your nonsense. As PP noted, I feel sorry for your kids.