why do so many of you expect family to help

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

Wait, what? If people don't agree or believe in your personal philosophy of thinking they should take care of YOUR children, THEY are the selfish ones? Holy fucking shit. You got some serious cognitive dissonance, guuuurl.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

Where in the world is there "hate?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

Where in the world is there "hate?"

Now who's unaware? Your mock innocence is childish.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

Where in the world is there "hate?"

Now who's unaware? Your mock innocence is childish.

Speaking of children, perhaps you ought to work on taking care of your own children, instead of selfishly expecting others to do your work for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

Where in the world is there "hate?"

Now who's unaware? Your mock innocence is childish.

Speaking of children, perhaps you ought to work on taking care of your own children, instead of selfishly expecting others to do your work for you.

WTF are you talking about? There you go ASSuming again, which in addition to childish makes you sound stupid as hell. I have no family around. I do take care of my own children and pay others to do it while I'm working. But when we are around family, they gladly offer to spend time with them and we are more than happy to reciprocate. Ditto our great friends here. I'm sorry if you don't enjoy a similar situation, but what with your bitchy attitude it's no surprise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

Where in the world is there "hate?"

Now who's unaware? Your mock innocence is childish.

Speaking of children, perhaps you ought to work on taking care of your own children, instead of selfishly expecting others to do your work for you.

WTF are you talking about? There you go ASSuming again, which in addition to childish makes you sound stupid as hell. I have no family around. I do take care of my own children and pay others to do it while I'm working. But when we are around family, they gladly offer to spend time with them and we are more than happy to reciprocate. Ditto our great friends here. I'm sorry if you don't enjoy a similar situation, but what with your bitchy attitude it's no surprise.

So why do you think the OP is "selfish" because they don't want to be expected to take care of family members' kids? Why do you think not being forced to comply with "it takes a village" makes someone selfish?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

Where in the world is there "hate?"

Now who's unaware? Your mock innocence is childish.

Speaking of children, perhaps you ought to work on taking care of your own children, instead of selfishly expecting others to do your work for you.

WTF are you talking about? There you go ASSuming again, which in addition to childish makes you sound stupid as hell. I have no family around. I do take care of my own children and pay others to do it while I'm working. But when we are around family, they gladly offer to spend time with them and we are more than happy to reciprocate. Ditto our great friends here. I'm sorry if you don't enjoy a similar situation, but what with your bitchy attitude it's no surprise.

So why do you think the OP is "selfish" because they don't want to be expected to take care of family members' kids? Why do you think not being forced to comply with "it takes a village" makes someone selfish?

That PP was not suggesting that anyone should be "forced to comply," and neither was I. But she is right that the total unwillingness to ever help friends or family in need is selfish. And reading into every request for help an unwillingness or inability to take responsibility for one's life says more about the person making that assumption than it does the person asking for help. And yes, I think what it implies is a selfishness of spirit that ultimately hurts you more. Are some people unable or unwilling to take responsibility for their lives? Of course. Is this true of everyone who receives help from family and friends? Of course not. Why is your reaction so strong and why is your thinking so absolutist?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

Where in the world is there "hate?"

Now who's unaware? Your mock innocence is childish.

Speaking of children, perhaps you ought to work on taking care of your own children, instead of selfishly expecting others to do your work for you.

WTF are you talking about? There you go ASSuming again, which in addition to childish makes you sound stupid as hell. I have no family around. I do take care of my own children and pay others to do it while I'm working. But when we are around family, they gladly offer to spend time with them and we are more than happy to reciprocate. Ditto our great friends here. I'm sorry if you don't enjoy a similar situation, but what with your bitchy attitude it's no surprise.

So why do you think the OP is "selfish" because they don't want to be expected to take care of family members' kids? Why do you think not being forced to comply with "it takes a village" makes someone selfish?

That PP was not suggesting that anyone should be "forced to comply," and neither was I. But she is right that the total unwillingness to ever help friends or family in need is selfish. And reading into every request for help an unwillingness or inability to take responsibility for one's life says more about the person making that assumption than it does the person asking for help. And yes, I think what it implies is a selfishness of spirit that ultimately hurts you more. Are some people unable or unwilling to take responsibility for their lives? Of course. Is this true of everyone who receives help from family and friends? Of course not. Why is your reaction so strong and why is your thinking so absolutist?

I guess we have completely different philosophies. I think it's astoundingly selfish to expect others to take care of other people's responsibilities. Others have the right to continue on with their own lives, their own wants and needs - which makes them about as selfish as you wanting to have your own wants and needs. But to assume that others should do things for you, pick up after you, babysit for you, due to YOUR own choices and decisions, makes you incredibly self-absorbed. Having children does not entitle one to have others alter their life. Furthermore, someone not wanting to alter their life because of your decisions and choices, however big or benign, does not make them selfish. It makes them a sovereign human being, just like you. Your children are your responsibility, period. Someone not wanting to pick up part of that responsibility - however big or small, does not make them "selfish."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

Where in the world is there "hate?"

Now who's unaware? Your mock innocence is childish.

Speaking of children, perhaps you ought to work on taking care of your own children, instead of selfishly expecting others to do your work for you.

WTF are you talking about? There you go ASSuming again, which in addition to childish makes you sound stupid as hell. I have no family around. I do take care of my own children and pay others to do it while I'm working. But when we are around family, they gladly offer to spend time with them and we are more than happy to reciprocate. Ditto our great friends here. I'm sorry if you don't enjoy a similar situation, but what with your bitchy attitude it's no surprise.

So why do you think the OP is "selfish" because they don't want to be expected to take care of family members' kids? Why do you think not being forced to comply with "it takes a village" makes someone selfish?

That PP was not suggesting that anyone should be "forced to comply," and neither was I. But she is right that the total unwillingness to ever help friends or family in need is selfish. And reading into every request for help an unwillingness or inability to take responsibility for one's life says more about the person making that assumption than it does the person asking for help. And yes, I think what it implies is a selfishness of spirit that ultimately hurts you more. Are some people unable or unwilling to take responsibility for their lives? Of course. Is this true of everyone who receives help from family and friends? Of course not. Why is your reaction so strong and why is your thinking so absolutist?

I guess we have completely different philosophies. I think it's astoundingly selfish to expect others to take care of other people's responsibilities. Others have the right to continue on with their own lives, their own wants and needs - which makes them about as selfish as you wanting to have your own wants and needs. But to assume that others should do things for you, pick up after you, babysit for you, due to YOUR own choices and decisions, makes you incredibly self-absorbed. Having children does not entitle one to have others alter their life. Furthermore, someone not wanting to alter their life because of your decisions and choices, however big or benign, does not make them selfish. It makes them a sovereign human being, just like you. Your children are your responsibility, period. Someone not wanting to pick up part of that responsibility - however big or small, does not make them "selfish."

It's not a difference of philosophy. It's you. You sound like a Class A bitch.

[Anonymous]

Different poster here.

It takes a village MY ASS. That phrase is code for "I had too many kids, I could barely handle one, but I figured every one else could bail me out since that is what I am 'accustomed' to."

Give me a break. You're an adult. You bore your own children. If you can't handle them, I am sure DSS would be glad to find a home for them, possibly one of the people you are so "needy" about would rather take them into their own home than put up with your nonsense.

I can not understand users who put their aging relatives to work for free and claim they "want" to do it. Do you think we are as stupid as you are?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, op, you sound selfish. Ever heard the phrase "it takes a village"?

PP, this is some of the most astounding lack of self awareness I've seen on DCUM.

Not the PP, but:

Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing right back atcha. Oh, sorry for being so selfish - I guess only you're entitled to roll your eyes and other people should support you all the way irrespective of their own needs and wants and ideas. So sorry, PP. Carry on with your egregious expectations of others.

You know, you make an awful lot of assumptions. And you know what they say about THAT. Furthermore, exactly why are you being so hateful?

Where in the world is there "hate?"

Now who's unaware? Your mock innocence is childish.

Speaking of children, perhaps you ought to work on taking care of your own children, instead of selfishly expecting others to do your work for you.

WTF are you talking about? There you go ASSuming again, which in addition to childish makes you sound stupid as hell. I have no family around. I do take care of my own children and pay others to do it while I'm working. But when we are around family, they gladly offer to spend time with them and we are more than happy to reciprocate. Ditto our great friends here. I'm sorry if you don't enjoy a similar situation, but what with your bitchy attitude it's no surprise.

So why do you think the OP is "selfish" because they don't want to be expected to take care of family members' kids? Why do you think not being forced to comply with "it takes a village" makes someone selfish?

That PP was not suggesting that anyone should be "forced to comply," and neither was I. But she is right that the total unwillingness to ever help friends or family in need is selfish. And reading into every request for help an unwillingness or inability to take responsibility for one's life says more about the person making that assumption than it does the person asking for help. And yes, I think what it implies is a selfishness of spirit that ultimately hurts you more. Are some people unable or unwilling to take responsibility for their lives? Of course. Is this true of everyone who receives help from family and friends? Of course not. Why is your reaction so strong and why is your thinking so absolutist?

I guess we have completely different philosophies. I think it's astoundingly selfish to expect others to take care of other people's responsibilities. Others have the right to continue on with their own lives, their own wants and needs - which makes them about as selfish as you wanting to have your own wants and needs. But to assume that others should do things for you, pick up after you, babysit for you, due to YOUR own choices and decisions, makes you incredibly self-absorbed. Having children does not entitle one to have others alter their life. Furthermore, someone not wanting to alter their life because of your decisions and choices, however big or benign, does not make them selfish. It makes them a sovereign human being, just like you. Your children are your responsibility, period. Someone not wanting to pick up part of that responsibility - however big or small, does not make them "selfish."

It's not a difference of philosophy. It's you. You sound like a Class A bitch.

Wow. What a selfish, entitled brat you are. It's not always about you and your brood.

[Anonymous]

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Different poster here.

It takes a village MY ASS. That phrase is code for "I had too many kids, I could barely handle one, but I figured every one else could bail me out since that is what I am 'accustomed' to."

Give me a break. You're an adult. You bore your own children. If you can't handle them, I am sure DSS would be glad to find a home for them, possibly one of the people you are so "needy" about would rather take them into their own home than put up with your nonsense.

I can not understand users who put their aging relatives to work for free and claim they "want" to do it. Do you think we are as stupid as you are?

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When parents get older, their kids should be taking care of them. Aging parents/grandparents shouldn't be pressured or manipulated into taking care of their kids' kids. I'm not even a grandparent - but it's basic common sense.