| My kids do sleepovers, but they also have friends who don't. I don't ask why because it isn't my business. My kids don't think their friends are weird or exclude them by talk of what happened that weekend. They are taught to respect their friends' house rules or cultural differences. It isn't that hard to do. |
| Yes, I think PP is just a mean girl all grown up. It has to be her way or you are a weirdo. Too bad she never matured. |
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My friend was never allowed to spend the night growing up because her mother is Cuban and it wasn't a cultural norm there. This along with other cultural mandates from her mother while growing up have built up years of resentment. Needless to say, this has not positively impacted their adult relationship. On a religious note, routinely mandating church and other religious events (which also were a part of their Cuban culture) also failed to be passed on. My friend married and atheist and they are not planning on raising their children Catholic.
Obviously, parents have to make the best decisions with the information available. However, I think it is important to note that they can have negative long term repercussions if parents fail to involve their childrens feelings and desires and subscribe to only their "cultural values". |
How unfortunate that your friend rejected/abandoned her family, culture and faith. It sounds to me like there was more going on than not allowing sleepovers. I can assure you (as a Latino myself), this is not the norm. This is not to say that sometimes the home country culture clashes with American culture in some ways, but every Latino I know worked through these things with their family relationships and faith intact. |
The mother of my BFF growing up was Cuban. We switched off Saturday nights for years--sleepovers at her house/my house. There were plenty of cultural mandates (I went to Mass with them all the time, but I'm Protestant, for instance). Her mother did it because she liked the sleepovers from her youth, which we talked about. Interesting. Guess they must have been cousins...? |
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Pp here. I'm not Cuban so I'm not sure why my friends mother didn't allow sleepovers except to say that it was "not done where they come from" (her words). My friend distanced herself from her mother and her mother's religion because of how it was imposed on her. It was just done, no questions asked and nothing considered. This kind of unilateral/"because my culture said so" decision making had negative consequences. Obviously all parents are different and will make decisions differently. It is entirely possible that this way of parenting would have a negative impact without this culture clash and would have just manifested differently. However, in this case it happen to be sleepovers and church as they were the most common source of strife.
Through my friend's experience, I learned that not listening to your children or not willing to break your own rules in favor of a changing world or new cultural experiences can have long term negative implications on your relationship. |
| I personally don't feel strongly about the sleepover issue. But what strikes me is the hypocrisy of the parents who claim that sleepovers are critical for developing their kids' resilience, and then in the next sentence point out that the kids who are not allowed sleepovers will be made fun of in school for not conforming to the "norm." The message, then, is that the most important thing is to teach your kids to do what everyone else does and be like everyone else, or (gasp!) people might think they're weird. To me, resilience means the ability to have self-awareness and to get through difficult times, even when other kids might be unaccepting or intolerant. Obviously none of us WANTS our kids to have a hard time socially. But that is a part of growing up, and does build resilience. The fact that other kids at school might have a problem with Susie not going to a sleepover is emphatically the other kids' problem, and not Susie's...and it is Susie's parents' responsibility to drive that message home to Susie. THAT is what will help build her resilience - not conforming to something that other kids do, despite the parents' discomfort with it, just to avoid a POTENTIAL social difficulty with intolerant idiots. |
NP here, great observation, thanks for articulating it so well |
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I had a best friend in high school who wasn't allowed to do sleepovers. Her parents finally caved, and I was the only person she was allowed to sleep over with. Years later, I found out that her parents thought she was at my house almost every weekend during our junior and senior years...but she wasn't . She was at Raves, and at hotels with her much older boyfriends, etc.
That being said, both of my kids do sleepovers. But I can guarantee that I will be checking in on them when they're teens. |
I am suggesting because we are humans our views should be respected. Just as I respect that your are from butt fuck suburbia are backwards as shit. I smile and nod and let you be a hick. ASSHOLE |
should be " you are" |
Keeping your kids safe? Protecting your kids? What value is not recognized? I am glad I am not your mom as well because you sound ignorant and close minded. So I should allow my kids to do something jus becuase other kids are doing it so they won't be considered "wierd or antisocial"? That just sounds like awful parenting and I am raising a child that has a mind of their own. If having a mind of your own is wierd, then fine. She'll be wierd
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The topic was 10 year olds- not high school. Your friend in high school is irrelevant to this discussion. |
| not being able to go to sleep overs is freaking stupid |
At age 10 my DD was taking city buses by herself and the metro by 11. In general, sleepovers are fine. She has a phone and we have a family safety protocol She can call anytime, and we are both comfortable with this. |