Again, help me to understand why Blacks can't be anti gay marriage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blacks in NC came out en masse encouraged by their pastors to vote against gay marriage. Look at the voting trends and maps etc. Places like Research Triangle voted against the amendment and heavily black areas voted for. Hypocrites.

Links to the data?

While I'm in favor of same-sex marriage, it's not hypocrisy. If it's hypocrisy to discriminate against a group of people because the group of which you're a member has suffered discrimination at any time in the past, hypocrites on the same-sex marriage issue include:

1. Women
2. Irish people
3. Mexican people
4. Italian people
5. Jewish people
6. The list goes on

Mexican people? Links to the data?? (I really hope you realize that not all "hispanics" are "Mexican" )

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blacks in NC came out en masse encouraged by their pastors to vote against gay marriage. Look at the voting trends and maps etc. Places like Research Triangle voted against the amendment and heavily black areas voted for. Hypocrites.

Links to the data?

While I'm in favor of same-sex marriage, it's not hypocrisy. If it's hypocrisy to discriminate against a group of people because the group of which you're a member has suffered discrimination at any time in the past, hypocrites on the same-sex marriage issue include:

1. Women
2. Irish people
3. Mexican people
4. Italian people
5. Jewish people
6. The list goes on

Mexican people? Links to the data?? (I really hope you realize that not all "hispanics" are "Mexican" )

The list is a list of people who have faced discrimination, especially discrimination in the US, solely for how they were born. You don't know the history of discrimination against Mexicans in the US? Look into Hernandez v. Texas and hit up your local library, Google, or Amazon for more information.

As for the part in bold- I listed specific races, genders, and religions on my list. For example, Irish and Italian instead of just a blanket categorization of European. But thank you for enlightening me that not everyone who hails from Central or South America is Mexican. Whowouldathunkit?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Well that is interesting because in a regression analysis I read religion was a more important factor for women. Black male attitudes may be much less shaped by religion and more by cultural attitudes toward black masculinity.

Several surveys over the years have found women to be more likely than men to support same-sex marriage.

[Anonymous]

Also, aren't women more likely to be religious than men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well that is interesting because in a regression analysis I read religion was a more important factor for women. Black male attitudes may be much less shaped by religion and more by cultural attitudes toward black masculinity.

Several surveys over the years have found women to be more likely than men to support same-sex marriage.

Fag hags.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Well that is interesting because in a regression analysis I read religion was a more important factor for women. Black male attitudes may be much less shaped by religion and more by cultural attitudes toward black masculinity.

Several surveys over the years have found women to be more likely than men to support same-sex marriage.

Fag hags.

That's just ignorant. You didn't even use the term correctly. Almost like you are a wannabe bigot.

[Anonymous]

give it a generation. all of the anti-gay marriage proponents are hanging on to the past with a loose thread. it is only a matter of time before the next generation firmly ushers in the change that we are seeing slowly develop today.

wow, sounds a lot like the 60s/70s and the era of black civil rights.

[Anonymous]

Even if Black people do not have an anti gay stance because of religion, what is wrong with that? Again the discrimination is wrong, but the attitude may be just as natural as being gay itself.

[Anonymous]

So. Your argument is: how dare anyone tell us who we can discriminate against?The Nazis did it; why can't we? Wow. DCUM we have a winner in the convoluted-logic-and-simple-thinking-sweepstakes this morning! The competition was keen at the bottom. Winners will be awarded dog-eared copies of Atlas Shrugged and Mein Kampf and signed Grand Wizard sheets. Congratulations to all the competitors!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So. Your argument is: how dare anyone tell us who we can discriminate against?The Nazis did it; why can't we? Wow. DCUM we have a winner in the convoluted-logic-and-simple-thinking-sweepstakes this morning! The competition was keen at the bottom. Winners will be awarded dog-eared copies of Atlas Shrugged and Mein Kampf and signed Grand Wizard sheets. Congratulations to all the competitors!

No, I made it clear that most people are willing to sanction discrimination. But for those who can not accept homosexuality, are THEY sinners? I don't think so, but going further, why are Blacks not allowed this position?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So. Your argument is: how dare anyone tell us who we can discriminate against?The Nazis did it; why can't we? Wow. DCUM we have a winner in the convoluted-logic-and-simple-thinking-sweepstakes this morning! The competition was keen at the bottom. Winners will be awarded dog-eared copies of Atlas Shrugged and Mein Kampf and signed Grand Wizard sheets. Congratulations to all the competitors!

No, I made it clear that most people are willing to sanction discrimination. But for those who can not accept homosexuality, are THEY sinners? I don't think so, but going further, why are Blacks not allowed this position?

Typo, "are NOT willing to sanction discrimination"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blacks in NC came out en masse encouraged by their pastors to vote against gay marriage. Look at the voting trends and maps etc. Places like Research Triangle voted against the amendment and heavily black areas voted for. Hypocrites.

Links to the data?

While I'm in favor of same-sex marriage, it's not hypocrisy. If it's hypocrisy to discriminate against a group of people because the group of which you're a member has suffered discrimination at any time in the past, hypocrites on the same-sex marriage issue include:

1. Women
2. Irish people
3. Mexican people
4. Italian people
5. Jewish people
6. The list goes on

Mexican people? Links to the data?? (I really hope you realize that not all "hispanics" are "Mexican" )

The list is a list of people who have faced discrimination, especially discrimination in the US, solely for how they were born. You don't know the history of discrimination against Mexicans in the US? Look into Hernandez v. Texas and hit up your local library, Google, or Amazon for more information.

As for the part in bold- I listed specific races, genders, and religions on my list. For example, Irish and Italian instead of just a blanket categorization of European. But thank you for enlightening me that not everyone who hails from Central or South America is Mexican. Whowouldathunkit?!

Actually NO ONE that is from Central and South American is Mexican. Many people don't realze that. So yeah, Whowouldathunkit? I am sure that people from other countries have faced discrminiation. I don't have to google or go to the local library because well, I just have lived it. A lof of that discrminiation felt by immigrants is from African- Americans evn towards immigarnts from mostly black countries. Yes, that is hypocritical as well. In terms of why can't blacks be anti-marraige. They can be as just like anyone else they are allowed whatever views they want. It just seems intersting given the history of dicrminiation against them, they would want to limit the rights of others

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Actually NO ONE that is from Central and South American is Mexican. Many people don't realze that. So yeah, Whowouldathunkit? I am sure that people from other countries have faced discrminiation. I don't have to google or go to the local library because well, I just have lived it. A lof of that discrminiation felt by immigrants is from African- Americans evn towards immigarnts from mostly black countries. Yes, that is hypocritical as well. In terms of why can't blacks be anti-marraige. They can be as just like anyone else they are allowed whatever views they want. It just seems intersting given the history of dicrminiation against them, they would want to limit the rights of others

For someone obsessed with precision, your post contains a lot of spelling and grammatical errors. Speaking of precision, parts of southern Mexico are in Central America. So yes, some people from Central America are Mexican. This is the most irrelevant matter to debate, though.

And no, you don't have to go to the library if you don't wish to, but you are the poster who responded with incredulity when I stated that Mexicans have faced discrimination in the US, so I provided you with information on how you could learn more.

Also, you don't seem to know the definition of hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blacks in NC came out en masse encouraged by their pastors to vote against gay marriage. Look at the voting trends and maps etc. Places like Research Triangle voted against the amendment and heavily black areas voted for. Hypocrites.

Links to the data?

While I'm in favor of same-sex marriage, it's not hypocrisy. If it's hypocrisy to discriminate against a group of people because the group of which you're a member has suffered discrimination at any time in the past, hypocrites on the same-sex marriage issue include:

1. Women
2. Irish people
3. Mexican people
4. Italian people
5. Jewish people
6. The list goes on

Mexican people? Links to the data?? (I really hope you realize that not all "hispanics" are "Mexican" )

The list is a list of people who have faced discrimination, especially discrimination in the US, solely for how they were born. You don't know the history of discrimination against Mexicans in the US? Look into Hernandez v. Texas and hit up your local library, Google, or Amazon for more information.

As for the part in bold- I listed specific races, genders, and religions on my list. For example, Irish and Italian instead of just a blanket categorization of European. But thank you for enlightening me that not everyone who hails from Central or South America is Mexican. Whowouldathunkit?!

Actually NO ONE that is from Central and South American is Mexican. Many people don't realze that. So yeah, Whowouldathunkit? I am sure that people from other countries have faced discrminiation. I don't have to google or go to the local library because well, I just have lived it. A lof of that discrminiation felt by immigrants is from African- Americans evn towards immigarnts from mostly black countries. Yes, that is hypocritical as well. In terms of why can't blacks be anti-marraige. They can be as just like anyone else they are allowed whatever views they want. It just seems intersting given the history of dicrminiation against them, they would want to limit the rights of others

So you're saying Mexico is not a part of Central America? No, I'm really asking...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Actually NO ONE that is from Central and South American is Mexican. Many people don't realze that. So yeah, Whowouldathunkit? I am sure that people from other countries have faced discrminiation. I don't have to google or go to the local library because well, I just have lived it. A lof of that discrminiation felt by immigrants is from African- Americans evn towards immigarnts from mostly black countries. Yes, that is hypocritical as well. In terms of why can't blacks be anti-marraige. They can be as just like anyone else they are allowed whatever views they want. It just seems intersting given the history of dicrminiation against them, they would want to limit the rights of others

For someone obsessed with precision, your post contains a lot of spelling and grammatical errors. Speaking of precision, parts of southern Mexico are in Central America. So yes, some people from Central America are Mexican. This is the most irrelevant matter to debate, though.

And no, you don't have to go to the library if you don't wish to, but you are the poster who responded with incredulity when I stated that Mexicans have faced discrimination in the US, so I provided you with information on how you could learn more.

Also, you don't seem to know the definition of hypocrisy.

NP, I strenuously agree with PP here...but this is ultimately just a derail.