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Anonymous
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Teacher here-- I have not read this thread closely, but may detect a rookie error often seen in starter schools or very 'proactive' school communities. Teacher and admin should NOT be on the same discussion group as parents. It totally crosses every boundary. Parents should feel free to spout off, information share etc to each other. They should not expect teachers/admin to listen in or comment. Parents should talk directly to admin/faculty when questions come up, or a parent body should bring community wide issues directly to admin/faculty and then report back. Meetings are also appropriate forums, though questions should be submitted in advance if you truly want to get somewhere (not just vent).
As a teacher I have had the misfortune of being added to a discussion group by well-meaning parents. It was completely inappropriate and I had to remove myself. Class list serves set up by the teacher/room parents to communicate class info is fine, but should mostly be uni-directional (as in, "the field trip will depart at such and such an hour"). If the class wishes to have a discussion forum, PLEASE remove the teacher. If you have a question or feel the need to 'bring up an issue' come to the admin/faculty directly. Hopefully your inquiry will be addressed, and if enough questions in the same vein come up you can bet the admin/teacher will address it to the group as a whole through an appropriate arm of communication. Thanks for listening to my two cents. |
Anonymous
Well I am 16:29. I did not mention the CAS scores because they do not concern my DC. My child is above grade level in English and at grade level for Chinese. On top of receiving the necessary academics from the school, DC also receive extra enrichments from the school's after school program. So yes, I am thrilled with my child's results and frankly my dear that is my primary concern. FWIW, I may not speak up, but DH is not a pussy as someone on another thread labeled their DH. He has and will continue to speak up to the staff when warranted with no fear of reprisal taken out on DC. Ha, they wouldn't dare. Between the two of us, that entire school, board, administrators, et al would be tied up in court litigation for years. |
Not even a mention.
Anonymous
Hater. What school is your DC attending and what are the scores. More importantly, are you happy with your school choice. And why do you have a hard-on for YY. You are really coming across as a jealous shrew. I mentioned earlier that YY is not perfect. It has it's faults. Please name one school without faults and limitations. I also mentioned my DC is getting exactly what he needs from YY. He is above grade level in some areas and on level at others, so I guess they are doing something right. |
Anonymous
I am not the poster you're questioning. Good that your child is doing well. Don't think that person came across as you said. You sound very harsh. You seem to forget that 38% 3rd graders at YY failed reading and 43% failed math. I guess they are not doing something right. Those numbers speak volume. Look at the reality. Clearly there's big disconnect. |
Anonymous
What about the other parents of the entire class of almost 50 kids who make up the 38% failed reading and 43% failed math? I bet this does concern them. Not even one said anything about this subject while there have been thousounds of messages from parents on DCUM boards. Does anyone find that interesting? |
Anonymous
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The reason you don't hear major discontent on the Google group is because many, many parents believe that the teachers and administration are busting their asses constantly to try to improve the school. But to be real, the only way you form an opinion yourself is through personal relationships, experience, and time. I have no doubt some parents are depressed, or upset, or disappointed by this or that at the school. I know I have been upset at some decisions, but as someone mentioned, I don't expect perfection, and I give people the benefit of the doubt. Then again, people walk with their feet. Unhappiness will translate through enrollment.
It is easy to sling arrows and hurl insults. It is much, much harder to put in hundreds of hours of volunteering, raising money, and trying to help pitch in on items large and small. There are the first type of people and the latter type in any large group of people. Complainers vs. doers. This isn't specific to Yu Ying, but all schools. |
Anonymous
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i am not associated with yu ying in any way. the responses to this thread and the others that discuss yu ying almost have a reactionay, anti-intellectual undertone to them. it almost feel like i am listening to george W weigh in on the topic when i read them.
for chrissakes people, we are better than this. rooting against a fledgling public school that is trying to educate children with a bilingual model? this is what we are railing against? honestly, and i am not usually this person, but i am starting to wonder if this isn't veiled racism/nationalism against all things chinese. |
Anonymous
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[quote=AnonymousWhat about the other parents of the entire class of almost 50 kids who make up the 38% failed reading and 43% failed math? I bet this does concern them. Not even one said anything about this subject while there have been thousounds of messages from parents on DCUM boards. Does anyone find that interesting?
only YY 35 students took the dc-cas test. 3 were below basic in reading, 4 were below basic in math. 10 were basic in reading, 11 were basic in math. The sum of the "failing" students if 13 in reading, 15 in math. 22 were proficient and advanced in reading. 20 were proficient and advanced in math. my child is one of the 35 students, I've received the individual score report, and am satifisfied with the outcome. Scores were exactly what I would have predicted based on my knowledge of my child. Perhaps the other 34 parents have the same understanding of how their child's scores relate to their child's performance. Perhaps the other 34 parents are not on DCUM. Why only 35 students? the class size for the 2/3 class was 42 and the 2nd graders did not take the test. For the posters who say that YY is doing something terribly wrong in math, note that the difference in pass rate between math and reading is 2 students. |
Anonymous
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As a parent of a student in this class at Yu Ying I firmly believe the quality of the English instruction is weak. However there is no room for disagreement at this school. We stay because we havel no better options. We will be gone by middle school.
I'm sure school leadership is on this board. Try to learn something here. |
Anonymous
New YY parent here. This is the message I'm getting. Personally, I don't care much about the DC CAS since my DC is an entering pker, but it's well, odd, that not one parent out of the 200+ families already at YY don't mention these eagerly anticipated first scores on the school's own listserv. The silence is deafening. 
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Anonymous
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If we mentioned the test scores in anything less than delusionally glowing terms we would be advised that YuYing is a choice. In other words, you are for us, or against us.
Then cue the parents who talk about blood sweat and tears and how THEY don't expect perfection. Blah. Blah. Blah. There is a serious case of Founder's syndrome present at WYY. Google the term for the definition. The school needs work in many areas. |
Anonymous
It's unfortunate that you feel stuck in a school that you so clearly dislike. But I don't think that continuing to bash your child's school in a public forum is going to do anything to improve his/her education. There's just such an intensely negative tone to the anti-Yu Ying posts on this board. I'm curious whether this is a widely held sentiment within the school, or whether it is only a couple of posters with very strong negative feelings. |
Anonymous
only YY 35 students took the dc-cas test. 3 were below basic in reading, 4 were below basic in math. 10 were basic in reading, 11 were basic in math. The sum of the "failing" students if 13 in reading, 15 in math. 22 were proficient and advanced in reading. 20 were proficient and advanced in math. my child is one of the 35 students, I've received the individual score report, and am satifisfied with the outcome. Scores were exactly what I would have predicted based on my knowledge of my child. Perhaps the other 34 parents have the same understanding of how their child's scores relate to their child's performance. Perhaps the other 34 parents are not on DCUM. Why only 35 students? the class size for the 2/3 class was 42 and the 2nd graders did not take the test. For the posters who say that YY is doing something terribly wrong in math, note that the difference in pass rate between math and reading is 2 students. NP, no relation to YY, but I think you make some good points! The sample size was 35 students-- not enough to make sweeping statements about YY's ability to teach kids. |
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Well I am 16:29. I did not mention the CAS scores because they do not concern my DC. My child is above grade level in English and at grade level for Chinese. On top of receiving the necessary academics from the school, DC also receive extra enrichments from the school's after school program. So yes, I am thrilled with my child's results and frankly my dear that is my primary concern. FWIW, I may not speak up, but DH is not a pussy as someone on another thread labeled their DH. He has and will continue to speak up to the staff when warranted with no fear of reprisal taken out on DC. Ha, they wouldn't dare. Between the two of us, that entire school, board, administrators, et al would be tied up in court litigation for years. What about the other parents of the entire class of almost 50 kids who make up the 38% failed reading and 43% failed math? I bet this does concern them. Not even one said anything about this subject while there have been thousounds of messages from parents on DCUM boards. Does anyone find that interesting? You exaggerate. Only 35 students took the test. Again, I am primarily concerned with my DC. Are you primarily concerned with your DC or my DC. Also, why are you so interested in YY. Talk about the scores at your school if that interests you. And, if you did not already know, DCCAS is not truly reflective of ones ability, knowledge and skills. It is a snapshot of a one four-hour day. I am more concerned with what my child is doing the other 200 plus days out of the school year. I really am shaking my head because I cannot understand all the YY hate. Did I miss something, or did other schools in the world of DCPS and DCPCS have similar if not worst scores that were reflective of the time a child spent one four-hour day. Is it personal. Did a parent of a YY child have an affair with your husband/wife. Do you hate mandarin. Do you despise the Chinese. Did you apply to the school's lottery and failed to receive an admission receipt. Or, did somebody just Ke your lollipop and you want to be a total shrew today. Help me understand the YY vitriol from DCUM when most people don't have a stake in the school. I do. My most precious is a student there. I actually have other choices. The time may come when I may have to exercise that choice. Until then however, help me understand the shrill that comes across these boards every frigging time YY is mentioned. Furthermore, why is YY always mentioned, especially among those who know so little. Finally, to the other parent of YY who has only negative commentary-I don't get you. I understand the school's muffling affect. I mentioned it upstream. But if you cannot recognize any positive benefits for your child at YY, perhaps it is a bad fit. Heck, it happens. My child's first school was not the fit I was looking for for my DC. YY does work for others. I say this because it is alright to have administrative differences, but jeeze, when do you say enough. It does not work for my Johnny and move on. |
Anonymous
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The following is a quote from another thread regarding sample vs. scores. It provides a good perspective and should also be considered as this debate goes on (not about haters or braggers).
<<The small sample size is a valid argument but it has a double edge in that YY got to devote all of their resources, inexperienced as it was, to a small group of students. Can't argue that resources were spread too thin and they knew how much attention would be given to these first scores: Bet they worked like hell to pump them up and the kids still did not do well. Points to problems in the way they teach. Seems they are getting around this by decreasing the level of FARMs and providing an atmosphere where only those who have the time and resources to supplement English learning at home will have the best 'fit' at YY. >> |