How tolerant are private schools towards neurodiversity?

[Anonymous]

Regardless of their marketing rhetoric, privates are not required to accommodate ND students. So they will until they won’t and then counsel you out. You are always there on sufferance. If you can swallow that and shield your kid from it, private can be great. But make no mistake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day schools don’t really care about neurodiversity. They care as long as your kid has good grades and is not disruptive in class. For the rest, the quietly invite them to get out of their school.

A “normal” classroom environment with the great balance of kids being regulated has become a luxury product.

This is why we pay for private and attend a religious school when we are not religious. I suspect my own kid is ND, so don’t come at me ND parents, but he is not disruptive, he is not violent, and he is not performing below grade level. If our local public offered an environment that had him in separate classes from the violent kids, daily disruptors, and bottom 10%, we would have stayed there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day schools don’t really care about neurodiversity. They care as long as your kid has good grades and is not disruptive in class. For the rest, the quietly invite them to get out of their school.

A “normal” classroom environment with the great balance of kids being regulated has become a luxury product.

With the great irony that a lot of neurodivergent but well behaved kids end up in private school because they are so dysregulated by the behavior challenges and large class sizes and chaos in public school.

Yes - ND kids are often the biggest victims of chaotic classrooms, to which NT kids can certainly contribute.

In my experience, a ND parent of a NT child is far more likely to send his/her children to private than a NT parent of a ND child . . .

Huh?

[Anonymous]

No I am saying we live in a pharma nutty culture where the pharma companies main goal is to make addicted kids for life and when these kids are hyped on on drugs they are bouncing off the walls and dealing their pills throughout the schools.

Everyone wants a diagnosis to explain that kids are kids and that usually they test everyone, have rebellious phases, and experiment drugs and alcohol. If we proactively call human behavior ND in order to give them crazy pills then it indicates the countries love affair with dangerous drugs, quick fixes, and unfair playing fields. Further it shows parents and school systems will be swift and inconsiderate if the consequences of head meds for kids that make patients for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No I am saying we live in a pharma nutty culture where the pharma companies main goal is to make addicted kids for life and when these kids are hyped on on drugs they are bouncing off the walls and dealing their pills throughout the schools.

Everyone wants a diagnosis to explain that kids are kids and that usually they test everyone, have rebellious phases, and experiment drugs and alcohol. If we proactively call human behavior ND in order to give them crazy pills then it indicates the countries love affair with dangerous drugs, quick fixes, and unfair playing fields. Further it shows parents and school systems will be swift and inconsiderate if the consequences of head meds for kids that make patients for life.

IOW, no, you don’t know anything about ND students.

[Anonymous]

You don't know how us education, mass marketing, and systematic corruption works

[Anonymous]

Btw I was a science teacher for a decade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of their marketing rhetoric, privates are not required to accommodate ND students. So they will until they won’t and then counsel you out. You are always there on sufferance. If you can swallow that and shield your kid from it, private can be great. But make no mistake.

There are limits to how much they are required to accommodate ND students, but they do have a legal responsibility to provide reasonable accommodations. They generally do not have to provide services that would be on an IEP, but most 504 accommodations fall within "reasonable accommodations" that a school must provide under federal law.

I will definitely admit that enforcing that can be hard--no one wants to be in a situation where you are getting lawyers involved to make a school provide accommodations. A school that doesn't *want* to accommodate my kid probably isn't going to be a great environment for her even if I can force them to do it on paper. But it's important to keep in mind that private schools are not actually off the hook for disability accommodations.

[Anonymous]

Unless your kid has real diseases like spina bifida, downes syndrome, perhaps was a crack baby, etc your just looking for a quick fix in the drugs and special favors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No I am saying we live in a pharma nutty culture where the pharma companies main goal is to make addicted kids for life and when these kids are hyped on on drugs they are bouncing off the walls and dealing their pills throughout the schools.

Everyone wants a diagnosis to explain that kids are kids and that usually they test everyone, have rebellious phases, and experiment drugs and alcohol. If we proactively call human behavior ND in order to give them crazy pills then it indicates the countries love affair with dangerous drugs, quick fixes, and unfair playing fields. Further it shows parents and school systems will be swift and inconsiderate if the consequences of head meds for kids that make patients for life.

This makes clear that you are entirely unfamiliar with the scientific literature on this subject. ADHD meds for pediatric patients probably have the most robust evidence basis of any intervention in all of psychiatry. Conversely, ASD is not routinely treated with meds at all.

[Anonymous]

The pharma companies lobby the heck out of the med community with their greasy blood money with the goal of getting all the kids addicted to amphetamines at young ages and for life. I think the practice is horrific. I wish we went back to a time when they were not trying to manipulate the brain chemistry of children with similar chemical that they gave to Nazis in WWII.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unless your kid has real diseases like spina bifida, downes syndrome, perhaps was a crack baby, etc your just looking for a quick fix in the drugs and special favors.

If you can’t learn to spell these things, you are no authority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of their marketing rhetoric, privates are not required to accommodate ND students. So they will until they won’t and then counsel you out. You are always there on sufferance. If you can swallow that and shield your kid from it, private can be great. But make no mistake.

There are limits to how much they are required to accommodate ND students, but they do have a legal responsibility to provide reasonable accommodations. They generally do not have to provide services that would be on an IEP, but most 504 accommodations fall within "reasonable accommodations" that a school must provide under federal law.

I will definitely admit that enforcing that can be hard--no one wants to be in a situation where you are getting lawyers involved to make a school provide accommodations. A school that doesn't *want* to accommodate my kid probably isn't going to be a great environment for her even if I can force them to do it on paper. But it's important to keep in mind that private schools are not actually off the hook for disability accommodations.

There really is no rule without enforcement, is there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day schools don’t really care about neurodiversity. They care as long as your kid has good grades and is not disruptive in class. For the rest, the quietly invite them to get out of their school.

A “normal” classroom environment with the great balance of kids being regulated has become a luxury product.

Exactly. This is what private school parents are paying for.

[Anonymous]

The doctors have such extreme med school debt they will say anything to get a buck from a greasy corruption focused lobbyist.