Taylor Meeting at Wootton

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are "parkway people"?

The Wootton people who can walk to the building, who value the ability to walk to school above all else. Including their children’s health.

They are the members of the wootton community who are adamantly against the superintendents recommendation. Many others in the community are for the move to crown.

Maybe we don’t want our children to spend 40 minutes each way on the bus daily because it will negatively impact their health. We are going to be the farthest community from Crown. Our kids will be getting on those buses before 7 am. We bought our tiny townhouse to be able to walk to all 3 schools.

There is nowhere in Fallsmead or Lakewood boundaries that is a 40 minute school bus ride one way to Crown.

Maybe these people have never been on a school bus route? It’s not a ride-on route, it has maybe only 3-4 stops in a neighborhood, especially a more high density neighborhood with townhouses and then drives straight to the school. It’s not stopping the whole way to crown to pick up kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, the people in the Wootton single families don't like you if you live in the townhouses. 😂

Wootton single family homes were all built in the early 70s and are not the mansions that you imagine. The majority of the houses in Rockshire and Fallsbend are split level 1,800 sq ft houses that are about the size of my townhouse.

Are you mad that Washingtonian woods has better houses than you?

People are mad that they have to go to school with a bunch of kids that moved into all of the apartments in Washington Woods.

[Anonymous]

Let's be real about what's happening here. The Crown and Rio business owners and nearby homeowners stand to benefit enormously from this move. The foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch and after school is a goldmine. That alone should make people ask harder questions about who this decision truly serves.

The SI's motivation isn't hard to read either. Moving Wootton with its strong academic reputation, high graduation rates, and demographics to Crown is a guaranteed win. The school runs itself. He gets to plant a flag, declare victory, and polish his resume before moving on to the next county. The collateral damage? Watch what happens after the next boundary study for ES, MS, HS when it's conducted properly. Feeder school boundary reshuffling, Fallsgrove families suddenly routing to Crown, Fallsmead heading to RM. Fallsgrove owners are pumped for their potential home values. Fallsmead? Yikes... But this won't be his problem. He'll be long gone.

If the SI and MCPS had simply followed proper protocol, most people probably could have lived with the outcome, even if they didn't love it. That's how trust works. But when the overwhelming majority of a community is this angry, something went wrong in the process. The gaps are real, and they've been documented through YouTube clips, media coverage, and public meetings that have exposed exactly where the wheels came off.

To those calling out the behavior at the meeting or worrying about what the kids will think? Yes, some kids probably think their parents are crazy. But the majority? They're watching adults fight for something they believe in. That's not a bad lesson. And frankly, those of you sitting on the sidelines trying to simplify a situation you're not directly affected by or maybe stand to benefit from should think twice before casting judgment. Dismissing passionate people as embarrassing, when you have no skin in the game, is its own kind of disrespect.

For those who think Magruder would actually benefit more and want Crown more... you're probably right. They have a clearer need and a more compelling case. But there's simply more political and financial upside for everyone involved with the Wootton brand. Someone has to lose in this shuffle, and it's whoever has the least leverage.

On the commute debate, the 20-minute estimate works fine if you're already near Crown. But school buses don't run point-to-point. They run routes with multiple stops, and when you add the full Wootton population to that routing, anyone claiming the math stays the same isn't being honest. Any traffic engineer/planner would tell you the same.

And here's the most underrated point in this entire conversation... why aren't we using data to drive this decision? We're in an era where AI tools can model demographic shifts, commute impact, enrollment projections, and boundary ripple effects. Feed all the relevant data in and see what comes back. Kids are literally taught in school to support their arguments with data and evidence. We should hold these lovely board members and executives making these decisions to the same standard. Instead, we're letting them use their half-witted brains and ulterior motives to drive their decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

[Anonymous]

Ummmm...many things wrong with this, but I just gotta ask about the first conspiracy theory: the foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch is a goldmine and that should make us ask "harder questions" about the motivations here? You do realize, don't you, that Crown is going to open in 2027 with students in it. Whether the students all came from the Gaithersburg area, or a combo with Rockville, or Magruder....it will still be filled with students...who eat. So no, no grand conspiracy to move Wootton to help business. Also, why are you assuming Bostic would allow students to leave for lunch when it's not allowed now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

Wait, but its ok DCC kids cross Georgia, Conn, Randolph, Viers Mill, Colesville Road, etc.? I'd be thrilled for a bus, as we have to drive as the walk isn't safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be real about what's happening here. The Crown and Rio business owners and nearby homeowners stand to benefit enormously from this move. The foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch and after school is a goldmine. That alone should make people ask harder questions about who this decision truly serves.

The SI's motivation isn't hard to read either. Moving Wootton with its strong academic reputation, high graduation rates, and demographics to Crown is a guaranteed win. The school runs itself. He gets to plant a flag, declare victory, and polish his resume before moving on to the next county. The collateral damage? Watch what happens after the next boundary study for ES, MS, HS when it's conducted properly. Feeder school boundary reshuffling, Fallsgrove families suddenly routing to Crown, Fallsmead heading to RM. Fallsgrove owners are pumped for their potential home values. Fallsmead? Yikes... But this won't be his problem. He'll be long gone.

If the SI and MCPS had simply followed proper protocol, most people probably could have lived with the outcome, even if they didn't love it. That's how trust works. But when the overwhelming majority of a community is this angry, something went wrong in the process. The gaps are real, and they've been documented through YouTube clips, media coverage, and public meetings that have exposed exactly where the wheels came off.

To those calling out the behavior at the meeting or worrying about what the kids will think? Yes, some kids probably think their parents are crazy. But the majority? They're watching adults fight for something they believe in. That's not a bad lesson. And frankly, those of you sitting on the sidelines trying to simplify a situation you're not directly affected by or maybe stand to benefit from should think twice before casting judgment. Dismissing passionate people as embarrassing, when you have no skin in the game, is its own kind of disrespect.

For those who think Magruder would actually benefit more and want Crown more... you're probably right. They have a clearer need and a more compelling case. But there's simply more political and financial upside for everyone involved with the Wootton brand. Someone has to lose in this shuffle, and it's whoever has the least leverage.

On the commute debate, the 20-minute estimate works fine if you're already near Crown. But school buses don't run point-to-point. They run routes with multiple stops, and when you add the full Wootton population to that routing, anyone claiming the math stays the same isn't being honest. Any traffic engineer/planner would tell you the same.

And here's the most underrated point in this entire conversation... why aren't we using data to drive this decision? We're in an era where AI tools can model demographic shifts, commute impact, enrollment projections, and boundary ripple effects. Feed all the relevant data in and see what comes back. Kids are literally taught in school to support their arguments with data and evidence. We should hold these lovely board members and executives making these decisions to the same standard. Instead, we're letting them use their half-witted brains and ulterior motives to drive their decisions.

Collateral damage would be constant illness and health issues from staying in that building when there’s a safer one available. BOE doesn’t care about fallsmead or Fallsgrove home values collateral damage. Your argument holds no water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

Wait, but its ok DCC kids cross Georgia, Conn, Randolph, Viers Mill, Colesville Road, etc.? I'd be thrilled for a bus, as we have to drive as the walk isn't safe.

Which one of these has a speed limit of 50 and entrances to 270 and 200 right by the school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

Wait, but its ok DCC kids cross Georgia, Conn, Randolph, Viers Mill, Colesville Road, etc.? I'd be thrilled for a bus, as we have to drive as the walk isn't safe.

Which one of these has a speed limit of 50 and entrances to 270 and 200 right by the school?

Blair is right off the 495 Colesville Road exit, BCC is on East West Highway, Northwest HS is on Great Seneca which has a speed limit 55 on most parts but recently dropped to 35 in immediate school zone area only. Woodward is on Old Georgetown Road just off of 270 and 495 and WJ is close by with hotels and multiple large shopping centers within walking distance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

Wait, but its ok DCC kids cross Georgia, Conn, Randolph, Viers Mill, Colesville Road, etc.? I'd be thrilled for a bus, as we have to drive as the walk isn't safe.

Which one of these has a speed limit of 50 and entrances to 270 and 200 right by the school?

You think those roads are safe to cross? Several people have been killed on them in the past few years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ummmm...many things wrong with this, but I just gotta ask about the first conspiracy theory: the foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch is a goldmine and that should make us ask "harder questions" about the motivations here? You do realize, don't you, that Crown is going to open in 2027 with students in it. Whether the students all came from the Gaithersburg area, or a combo with Rockville, or Magruder....it will still be filled with students...who eat. So no, no grand conspiracy to move Wootton to help business. Also, why are you assuming Bostic would allow students to leave for lunch when it's not allowed now?

You must live under a rock if you think Bostic “lets” kids go out for lunch. They all do it. There are no controls to prevent them. Ask any kid who goes there…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be real about what's happening here. The Crown and Rio business owners and nearby homeowners stand to benefit enormously from this move. The foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch and after school is a goldmine. That alone should make people ask harder questions about who this decision truly serves.

The SI's motivation isn't hard to read either. Moving Wootton with its strong academic reputation, high graduation rates, and demographics to Crown is a guaranteed win. The school runs itself. He gets to plant a flag, declare victory, and polish his resume before moving on to the next county. The collateral damage? Watch what happens after the next boundary study for ES, MS, HS when it's conducted properly. Feeder school boundary reshuffling, Fallsgrove families suddenly routing to Crown, Fallsmead heading to RM. Fallsgrove owners are pumped for their potential home values. Fallsmead? Yikes... But this won't be his problem. He'll be long gone.

If the SI and MCPS had simply followed proper protocol, most people probably could have lived with the outcome, even if they didn't love it. That's how trust works. But when the overwhelming majority of a community is this angry, something went wrong in the process. The gaps are real, and they've been documented through YouTube clips, media coverage, and public meetings that have exposed exactly where the wheels came off.

To those calling out the behavior at the meeting or worrying about what the kids will think? Yes, some kids probably think their parents are crazy. But the majority? They're watching adults fight for something they believe in. That's not a bad lesson. And frankly, those of you sitting on the sidelines trying to simplify a situation you're not directly affected by or maybe stand to benefit from should think twice before casting judgment. Dismissing passionate people as embarrassing, when you have no skin in the game, is its own kind of disrespect.

For those who think Magruder would actually benefit more and want Crown more... you're probably right. They have a clearer need and a more compelling case. But there's simply more political and financial upside for everyone involved with the Wootton brand. Someone has to lose in this shuffle, and it's whoever has the least leverage.

On the commute debate, the 20-minute estimate works fine if you're already near Crown. But school buses don't run point-to-point. They run routes with multiple stops, and when you add the full Wootton population to that routing, anyone claiming the math stays the same isn't being honest. Any traffic engineer/planner would tell you the same.

And here's the most underrated point in this entire conversation... why aren't we using data to drive this decision? We're in an era where AI tools can model demographic shifts, commute impact, enrollment projections, and boundary ripple effects. Feed all the relevant data in and see what comes back. Kids are literally taught in school to support their arguments with data and evidence. We should hold these lovely board members and executives making these decisions to the same standard. Instead, we're letting them use their half-witted brains and ulterior motives to drive their decisions.

Collateral damage would be constant illness and health issues from staying in that building when there’s a safer one available. BOE doesn’t care about fallsmead or Fallsgrove home values collateral damage. Your argument holds no water.

With the latest proposal from Elrich to jack our taxes? Fixable. How many times have you found money to allocate for something you deemed important? Fix the HVAC and remediate the mold issues. But no, let’s spend $13M on re-paving the parking lot…. Bottom line - it’s fixable and wouldn’t take years, but a couple of months this summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be real about what's happening here. The Crown and Rio business owners and nearby homeowners stand to benefit enormously from this move. The foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch and after school is a goldmine. That alone should make people ask harder questions about who this decision truly serves.

The SI's motivation isn't hard to read either. Moving Wootton with its strong academic reputation, high graduation rates, and demographics to Crown is a guaranteed win. The school runs itself. He gets to plant a flag, declare victory, and polish his resume before moving on to the next county. The collateral damage? Watch what happens after the next boundary study for ES, MS, HS when it's conducted properly. Feeder school boundary reshuffling, Fallsgrove families suddenly routing to Crown, Fallsmead heading to RM. Fallsgrove owners are pumped for their potential home values. Fallsmead? Yikes... But this won't be his problem. He'll be long gone.

If the SI and MCPS had simply followed proper protocol, most people probably could have lived with the outcome, even if they didn't love it. That's how trust works. But when the overwhelming majority of a community is this angry, something went wrong in the process. The gaps are real, and they've been documented through YouTube clips, media coverage, and public meetings that have exposed exactly where the wheels came off.

To those calling out the behavior at the meeting or worrying about what the kids will think? Yes, some kids probably think their parents are crazy. But the majority? They're watching adults fight for something they believe in. That's not a bad lesson. And frankly, those of you sitting on the sidelines trying to simplify a situation you're not directly affected by or maybe stand to benefit from should think twice before casting judgment. Dismissing passionate people as embarrassing, when you have no skin in the game, is its own kind of disrespect.

For those who think Magruder would actually benefit more and want Crown more... you're probably right. They have a clearer need and a more compelling case. But there's simply more political and financial upside for everyone involved with the Wootton brand. Someone has to lose in this shuffle, and it's whoever has the least leverage.

On the commute debate, the 20-minute estimate works fine if you're already near Crown. But school buses don't run point-to-point. They run routes with multiple stops, and when you add the full Wootton population to that routing, anyone claiming the math stays the same isn't being honest. Any traffic engineer/planner would tell you the same.

And here's the most underrated point in this entire conversation... why aren't we using data to drive this decision? We're in an era where AI tools can model demographic shifts, commute impact, enrollment projections, and boundary ripple effects. Feed all the relevant data in and see what comes back. Kids are literally taught in school to support their arguments with data and evidence. We should hold these lovely board members and executives making these decisions to the same standard. Instead, we're letting them use their half-witted brains and ulterior motives to drive their decisions.

You are really stretching and lets get back to the original concern of you are saying Wootton is unsafe and MCPS is saying it could be 300 million or more to repair it. Is that the best use of MCPS money right now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ummmm...many things wrong with this, but I just gotta ask about the first conspiracy theory: the foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch is a goldmine and that should make us ask "harder questions" about the motivations here? You do realize, don't you, that Crown is going to open in 2027 with students in it. Whether the students all came from the Gaithersburg area, or a combo with Rockville, or Magruder....it will still be filled with students...who eat. So no, no grand conspiracy to move Wootton to help business. Also, why are you assuming Bostic would allow students to leave for lunch when it's not allowed now?

You must live under a rock if you think Bostic “lets” kids go out for lunch. They all do it. There are no controls to prevent them. Ask any kid who goes there…

These are non Wootton parents chiming in. They all have opinions about Wootton even though it does not concern them at all. Of course kids go out to lunch and then text those inside to let them in on the side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be real about what's happening here. The Crown and Rio business owners and nearby homeowners stand to benefit enormously from this move. The foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch and after school is a goldmine. That alone should make people ask harder questions about who this decision truly serves.

The SI's motivation isn't hard to read either. Moving Wootton with its strong academic reputation, high graduation rates, and demographics to Crown is a guaranteed win. The school runs itself. He gets to plant a flag, declare victory, and polish his resume before moving on to the next county. The collateral damage? Watch what happens after the next boundary study for ES, MS, HS when it's conducted properly. Feeder school boundary reshuffling, Fallsgrove families suddenly routing to Crown, Fallsmead heading to RM. Fallsgrove owners are pumped for their potential home values. Fallsmead? Yikes... But this won't be his problem. He'll be long gone.

If the SI and MCPS had simply followed proper protocol, most people probably could have lived with the outcome, even if they didn't love it. That's how trust works. But when the overwhelming majority of a community is this angry, something went wrong in the process. The gaps are real, and they've been documented through YouTube clips, media coverage, and public meetings that have exposed exactly where the wheels came off.

To those calling out the behavior at the meeting or worrying about what the kids will think? Yes, some kids probably think their parents are crazy. But the majority? They're watching adults fight for something they believe in. That's not a bad lesson. And frankly, those of you sitting on the sidelines trying to simplify a situation you're not directly affected by or maybe stand to benefit from should think twice before casting judgment. Dismissing passionate people as embarrassing, when you have no skin in the game, is its own kind of disrespect.

For those who think Magruder would actually benefit more and want Crown more... you're probably right. They have a clearer need and a more compelling case. But there's simply more political and financial upside for everyone involved with the Wootton brand. Someone has to lose in this shuffle, and it's whoever has the least leverage.

On the commute debate, the 20-minute estimate works fine if you're already near Crown. But school buses don't run point-to-point. They run routes with multiple stops, and when you add the full Wootton population to that routing, anyone claiming the math stays the same isn't being honest. Any traffic engineer/planner would tell you the same.

And here's the most underrated point in this entire conversation... why aren't we using data to drive this decision? We're in an era where AI tools can model demographic shifts, commute impact, enrollment projections, and boundary ripple effects. Feed all the relevant data in and see what comes back. Kids are literally taught in school to support their arguments with data and evidence. We should hold these lovely board members and executives making these decisions to the same standard. Instead, we're letting them use their half-witted brains and ulterior motives to drive their decisions.

Collateral damage would be constant illness and health issues from staying in that building when there’s a safer one available. BOE doesn’t care about fallsmead or Fallsgrove home values collateral damage. Your argument holds no water.

With the latest proposal from Elrich to jack our taxes? Fixable. How many times have you found money to allocate for something you deemed important? Fix the HVAC and remediate the mold issues. But no, let’s spend $13M on re-paving the parking lot…. Bottom line - it’s fixable and wouldn’t take years, but a couple of months this summer.

Repaving the parking lot when they would be getting ready for major repairs makes no sense. Mold remediation is not an easy quick job.