Taylor Meeting at Wootton

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Anonymous wrote:Ummmm...many things wrong with this, but I just gotta ask about the first conspiracy theory: the foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch is a goldmine and that should make us ask "harder questions" about the motivations here? You do realize, don't you, that Crown is going to open in 2027 with students in it. Whether the students all came from the Gaithersburg area, or a combo with Rockville, or Magruder....it will still be filled with students...who eat. So no, no grand conspiracy to move Wootton to help business. Also, why are you assuming Bostic would allow students to leave for lunch when it's not allowed now?

You must live under a rock if you think Bostic “lets” kids go out for lunch. They all do it. There are no controls to prevent them. Ask any kid who goes there…

Then, blame the parents for not enforcing school rules. We have a close campus. My kids don't leave and respect the rules. I'm also not giving them $15 a day for lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ummmm...many things wrong with this, but I just gotta ask about the first conspiracy theory: the foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch is a goldmine and that should make us ask "harder questions" about the motivations here? You do realize, don't you, that Crown is going to open in 2027 with students in it. Whether the students all came from the Gaithersburg area, or a combo with Rockville, or Magruder....it will still be filled with students...who eat. So no, no grand conspiracy to move Wootton to help business. Also, why are you assuming Bostic would allow students to leave for lunch when it's not allowed now?

Look at the pure demographic data. Stronger financial means from Wootton cluster families = stronger ability to spend at these businesses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ummmm...many things wrong with this, but I just gotta ask about the first conspiracy theory: the foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch is a goldmine and that should make us ask "harder questions" about the motivations here? You do realize, don't you, that Crown is going to open in 2027 with students in it. Whether the students all came from the Gaithersburg area, or a combo with Rockville, or Magruder....it will still be filled with students...who eat. So no, no grand conspiracy to move Wootton to help business. Also, why are you assuming Bostic would allow students to leave for lunch when it's not allowed now?

You must live under a rock if you think Bostic “lets” kids go out for lunch. They all do it. There are no controls to prevent them. Ask any kid who goes there…

Then, blame the parents for not enforcing school rules. We have a close campus. My kids don't leave and respect the rules. I'm also not giving them $15 a day for lunch.

You are such an amazing parent, we all strive to be just like you. I don’t give my kids $15 a day, but they both have part time jobs, so they can afford to buy lunch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ummmm...many things wrong with this, but I just gotta ask about the first conspiracy theory: the foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch is a goldmine and that should make us ask "harder questions" about the motivations here? You do realize, don't you, that Crown is going to open in 2027 with students in it. Whether the students all came from the Gaithersburg area, or a combo with Rockville, or Magruder....it will still be filled with students...who eat. So no, no grand conspiracy to move Wootton to help business. Also, why are you assuming Bostic would allow students to leave for lunch when it's not allowed now?

You must live under a rock if you think Bostic “lets” kids go out for lunch. They all do it. There are no controls to prevent them. Ask any kid who goes there…

Then, blame the parents for not enforcing school rules. We have a close campus. My kids don't leave and respect the rules. I'm also not giving them $15 a day for lunch.

You are such an amazing parent, we all strive to be just like you. I don’t give my kids $15 a day, but they both have part time jobs, so they can afford to buy lunch.

You should. If you live in the Wootton area, why are your kids working during the school year. You are wealthy. That's a huge waste of money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ummmm...many things wrong with this, but I just gotta ask about the first conspiracy theory: the foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch is a goldmine and that should make us ask "harder questions" about the motivations here? You do realize, don't you, that Crown is going to open in 2027 with students in it. Whether the students all came from the Gaithersburg area, or a combo with Rockville, or Magruder....it will still be filled with students...who eat. So no, no grand conspiracy to move Wootton to help business. Also, why are you assuming Bostic would allow students to leave for lunch when it's not allowed now?

Look at the pure demographic data. Stronger financial means from Wootton cluster families = stronger ability to spend at these businesses.

The Wootton complainers sound stretched as the simple solution is to buy your kid a car as soon as they get their license. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

Wait, but its ok DCC kids cross Georgia, Conn, Randolph, Viers Mill, Colesville Road, etc.? I'd be thrilled for a bus, as we have to drive as the walk isn't safe.

Which one of these has a speed limit of 50 and entrances to 270 and 200 right by the school?

You think those roads are safe to cross? Several people have been killed on them in the past few years.

Hope the SI is going to hire more crossing guards like the one we have near current Wootton! Otherwise, enjoy watching the game of Frogger each morning. Will only be a matter of time before someone is hit by a car, a new driver getting in a wreck with beltway traffic.

[Anonymous]

Their “non transportable” area for Crown is a joke. I walked from one of the areas and it took me an hour to get to crown!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

Wait, but its ok DCC kids cross Georgia, Conn, Randolph, Viers Mill, Colesville Road, etc.? I'd be thrilled for a bus, as we have to drive as the walk isn't safe.

Which one of these has a speed limit of 50 and entrances to 270 and 200 right by the school?

You think those roads are safe to cross? Several people have been killed on them in the past few years.

Hope the SI is going to hire more crossing guards like the one we have near current Wootton! Otherwise, enjoy watching the game of Frogger each morning. Will only be a matter of time before someone is hit by a car, a new driver getting in a wreck with beltway traffic.

Wootton has a crossing guard? Wow, just keep talking. Its amazing the inequities between the schools. We don't have crossing guards. And, we've had multiple people killed in our area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ummmm...many things wrong with this, but I just gotta ask about the first conspiracy theory: the foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch is a goldmine and that should make us ask "harder questions" about the motivations here? You do realize, don't you, that Crown is going to open in 2027 with students in it. Whether the students all came from the Gaithersburg area, or a combo with Rockville, or Magruder....it will still be filled with students...who eat. So no, no grand conspiracy to move Wootton to help business. Also, why are you assuming Bostic would allow students to leave for lunch when it's not allowed now?

Look at the pure demographic data. Stronger financial means from Wootton cluster families = stronger ability to spend at these businesses.

Yes the local businesses like Sephora,
Lulu, Ted’s, coastal flats, and sweet green are in cahoots with the boe to get them to move Wootton to crown for their profit! Guapos, CPK, and Dave & busters too! Someone check their bank accounts for fishy deposits 👀 yall got some conspiracy theories

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be real about what's happening here. The Crown and Rio business owners and nearby homeowners stand to benefit enormously from this move. The foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch and after school is a goldmine. That alone should make people ask harder questions about who this decision truly serves.

The SI's motivation isn't hard to read either. Moving Wootton with its strong academic reputation, high graduation rates, and demographics to Crown is a guaranteed win. The school runs itself. He gets to plant a flag, declare victory, and polish his resume before moving on to the next county. The collateral damage? Watch what happens after the next boundary study for ES, MS, HS when it's conducted properly. Feeder school boundary reshuffling, Fallsgrove families suddenly routing to Crown, Fallsmead heading to RM. Fallsgrove owners are pumped for their potential home values. Fallsmead? Yikes... But this won't be his problem. He'll be long gone.

If the SI and MCPS had simply followed proper protocol, most people probably could have lived with the outcome, even if they didn't love it. That's how trust works. But when the overwhelming majority of a community is this angry, something went wrong in the process. The gaps are real, and they've been documented through YouTube clips, media coverage, and public meetings that have exposed exactly where the wheels came off.

To those calling out the behavior at the meeting or worrying about what the kids will think? Yes, some kids probably think their parents are crazy. But the majority? They're watching adults fight for something they believe in. That's not a bad lesson. And frankly, those of you sitting on the sidelines trying to simplify a situation you're not directly affected by or maybe stand to benefit from should think twice before casting judgment. Dismissing passionate people as embarrassing, when you have no skin in the game, is its own kind of disrespect.

For those who think Magruder would actually benefit more and want Crown more... you're probably right. They have a clearer need and a more compelling case. But there's simply more political and financial upside for everyone involved with the Wootton brand. Someone has to lose in this shuffle, and it's whoever has the least leverage.

On the commute debate, the 20-minute estimate works fine if you're already near Crown. But school buses don't run point-to-point. They run routes with multiple stops, and when you add the full Wootton population to that routing, anyone claiming the math stays the same isn't being honest. Any traffic engineer/planner would tell you the same.

And here's the most underrated point in this entire conversation... why aren't we using data to drive this decision? We're in an era where AI tools can model demographic shifts, commute impact, enrollment projections, and boundary ripple effects. Feed all the relevant data in and see what comes back. Kids are literally taught in school to support their arguments with data and evidence. We should hold these lovely board members and executives making these decisions to the same standard. Instead, we're letting them use their half-witted brains and ulterior motives to drive their decisions.

Wow. Sounds like an amazing SI! We had more logical and methodical people back in the day. People made decisions by engaging with the community and colleagues alike before making decisions. I remember how things went down with Woodward as well and it was a shame. Seems like this decision is a bit hasty. Thank goodness my kids are grown and out of here. This is a mess. I never would imagine Wootton would ever leave the building. I feel sorry for all communities involved to see how divided this has made everyone from the looks of it. There will be ripple effects that none of us know for years. Good luck to all. Maybe they will tear Wootton down and build a community center out of it or simply build affordable housing for the community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

Wait, but its ok DCC kids cross Georgia, Conn, Randolph, Viers Mill, Colesville Road, etc.? I'd be thrilled for a bus, as we have to drive as the walk isn't safe.

Which one of these has a speed limit of 50 and entrances to 270 and 200 right by the school?

You think those roads are safe to cross? Several people have been killed on them in the past few years.

Hope the SI is going to hire more crossing guards like the one we have near current Wootton! Otherwise, enjoy watching the game of Frogger each morning. Will only be a matter of time before someone is hit by a car, a new driver getting in a wreck with beltway traffic.

Wootton has a crossing guard? Wow, just keep talking. Its amazing the inequities between the schools. We don't have crossing guards. And, we've had multiple people killed in our area.

Yes they do, as the walkers are both middle schoolers and high schoolers since Frost and Wootton are right next to each other. Not a bad idea. Sorry for the people getting killed in your area. The county should do the same for you if you had the same setup of MS and ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope there is a release of a video version of the meeting so the rest of us can see it. Does anyone know if MCPS recorded it? I heard it was a bunch of parents yelling on top of each other.

If there is a recording, share it! Would love to see the rowdiness!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

Wait, but its ok DCC kids cross Georgia, Conn, Randolph, Viers Mill, Colesville Road, etc.? I'd be thrilled for a bus, as we have to drive as the walk isn't safe.

Which one of these has a speed limit of 50 and entrances to 270 and 200 right by the school?

You think those roads are safe to cross? Several people have been killed on them in the past few years.

Hope the SI is going to hire more crossing guards like the one we have near current Wootton! Otherwise, enjoy watching the game of Frogger each morning. Will only be a matter of time before someone is hit by a car, a new driver getting in a wreck with beltway traffic.

Wootton has a crossing guard? Wow, just keep talking. Its amazing the inequities between the schools. We don't have crossing guards. And, we've had multiple people killed in our area.

Yes they do, as the walkers are both middle schoolers and high schoolers since Frost and Wootton are right next to each other. Not a bad idea. Sorry for the people getting killed in your area. The county should do the same for you if you had the same setup of MS and ES.

They get out at different times so that doesn't make sense. Please, keep sharing with us all the things Wootton has that our schools don't have, and yet, you want us to pay $300 million to renovate your school, while to pay for that cuts need to be made in other areas so what cuts would you like from our schools when there is pretty much nothing to cut?

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Anonymous wrote:"So move students there who are geographically close not the ones who will need to spend 40 minutes on a bus each way. It’s nonsensical to move Cold Springs to Churchill and make Churchill at 112% capacity and move the rest of Wootton to Crown. Does not help with overcrowding at RM or Churchill, in fact it makes it worse. The purpose of the boundary study was to prioritize geography not make it worse .Why should I pay for their idiotic mistake and lack of foresight?"

It's about 3.6-4 miles from Wootton to Crown. 10-15 minute drive. With bus, 25-30 minutes max, just like many other Wootton kids currently take to get to Wootton. I can't believe we're debating whether taking a bus is some hardship. It's the way kids get to school. Only a tiny group ever have the privilege to walk. It used to be you. Now it's someone else's turn. Life moves on. Your kids won't have health issues from riding a school bus for 25 minutes. I promise.

What tiny group? Wootton has 29% walkers. We are not some tiny group, it’s 541 students. Our students don’t have to cross any major streets to get to school. FRES students will need to cross Sam Eig to get to Crown. That’s a student fatality in the making.

Wait, but its ok DCC kids cross Georgia, Conn, Randolph, Viers Mill, Colesville Road, etc.? I'd be thrilled for a bus, as we have to drive as the walk isn't safe.

Which one of these has a speed limit of 50 and entrances to 270 and 200 right by the school?

You think those roads are safe to cross? Several people have been killed on them in the past few years.

Hope the SI is going to hire more crossing guards like the one we have near current Wootton! Otherwise, enjoy watching the game of Frogger each morning. Will only be a matter of time before someone is hit by a car, a new driver getting in a wreck with beltway traffic.

Wootton has a crossing guard? Wow, just keep talking. Its amazing the inequities between the schools. We don't have crossing guards. And, we've had multiple people killed in our area.

Yes they do, as the walkers are both middle schoolers and high schoolers since Frost and Wootton are right next to each other. Not a bad idea. Sorry for the people getting killed in your area. The county should do the same for you if you had the same setup of MS and ES.

They get out at different times so that doesn't make sense. Please, keep sharing with us all the things Wootton has that our schools don't have, and yet, you want us to pay $300 million to renovate your school, while to pay for that cuts need to be made in other areas so what cuts would you like from our schools when there is pretty much nothing to cut?

The crossing guard is for middle school students only. Please share where the $300 million figure came from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be real about what's happening here. The Crown and Rio business owners and nearby homeowners stand to benefit enormously from this move. The foot traffic from high schoolers at lunch and after school is a goldmine. That alone should make people ask harder questions about who this decision truly serves.

The SI's motivation isn't hard to read either. Moving Wootton with its strong academic reputation, high graduation rates, and demographics to Crown is a guaranteed win. The school runs itself. He gets to plant a flag, declare victory, and polish his resume before moving on to the next county. The collateral damage? Watch what happens after the next boundary study for ES, MS, HS when it's conducted properly. Feeder school boundary reshuffling, Fallsgrove families suddenly routing to Crown, Fallsmead heading to RM. Fallsgrove owners are pumped for their potential home values. Fallsmead? Yikes... But this won't be his problem. He'll be long gone.

If the SI and MCPS had simply followed proper protocol, most people probably could have lived with the outcome, even if they didn't love it. That's how trust works. But when the overwhelming majority of a community is this angry, something went wrong in the process. The gaps are real, and they've been documented through YouTube clips, media coverage, and public meetings that have exposed exactly where the wheels came off.

To those calling out the behavior at the meeting or worrying about what the kids will think? Yes, some kids probably think their parents are crazy. But the majority? They're watching adults fight for something they believe in. That's not a bad lesson. And frankly, those of you sitting on the sidelines trying to simplify a situation you're not directly affected by or maybe stand to benefit from should think twice before casting judgment. Dismissing passionate people as embarrassing, when you have no skin in the game, is its own kind of disrespect.

For those who think Magruder would actually benefit more and want Crown more... you're probably right. They have a clearer need and a more compelling case. But there's simply more political and financial upside for everyone involved with the Wootton brand. Someone has to lose in this shuffle, and it's whoever has the least leverage.

On the commute debate, the 20-minute estimate works fine if you're already near Crown. But school buses don't run point-to-point. They run routes with multiple stops, and when you add the full Wootton population to that routing, anyone claiming the math stays the same isn't being honest. Any traffic engineer/planner would tell you the same.

And here's the most underrated point in this entire conversation... why aren't we using data to drive this decision? We're in an era where AI tools can model demographic shifts, commute impact, enrollment projections, and boundary ripple effects. Feed all the relevant data in and see what comes back. Kids are literally taught in school to support their arguments with data and evidence. We should hold these lovely board members and executives making these decisions to the same standard. Instead, we're letting them use their half-witted brains and ulterior motives to drive their decisions.

This might be the dumbest take I’ve read so far. You really thought you did something there.

That last paragraph especially takes the cake. Complaining about not using data because you don’t like what the data said but then wants to use AI to solve this problem. Tell us, what did your favorite AI come up with AND you have to include the whole Crown study, not just Wootton walkers? We’ll wait