Elderly parents lost to MAGA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since Trump took office again they’ve become increasingly partisan and racist. I’ve known they’ve had a racist side— my mother has always commented on the race of new people they meet or who bought a house down the block, while my father will just declare nasty things about certain ethnic groups and then play poor disenfranchised white man (while sitting in his $1 million home with a generous public sector pension).

But since last spring, their behavior has gotten out of hand. They fully support everything Trump does and if you bring up something that’s obviously corruption they start ranting about Biden. My father said something very ugly over Thanksgiving dinner, just nasty and wrong to say right in front of my kids, and my mother just sat there quietly saying nothing. She’s a retired teacher, FFS, and wouldn’t correct him.

I’d avoid all Trump topics with them altogether but for my DH and I this is personal because we’re feds, have friends and family who are feds, and have seen first hand the fallout of this administration’s cruel decisions. But my parents refuse to even say something as simple as “we’re sorry this is happening to you” or “it’s wrong.” Thus just insist Trump is protecting the country from the Communists. Yep, the Commies again.

Last month, when Epstein came up, my mother declared I need to stop reading about Epstein, it’s old news and then chided me with “you focus on my children.” This is the same woman who was up in arms years ago when she learned one of my junior high teachers was arrested for pedophilia.

I’m disgusted and feel like they have turned into people I can’t have much of a relationship with. I have a sibling who gets on well with them and I’m at the point of telling her she’s on her own except for emergencies.

Most feds are extremely liberal and that's also a problem. The govt shouldn't be liberal or conservative it should be balanced

There’s a difference between conservative and MAGA, and that is the problem. MAGA has decreed that now you are MAGA or you are the enemy, a liberal snowflake traitor. Thus, everyone decent is now “liberal.”

+1

[Anonymous]

DH’s parents are MAGA. He said it’d be better if they were dead instead of losing them to the insanity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since Trump took office again they’ve become increasingly partisan and racist. I’ve known they’ve had a racist side— my mother has always commented on the race of new people they meet or who bought a house down the block, while my father will just declare nasty things about certain ethnic groups and then play poor disenfranchised white man (while sitting in his $1 million home with a generous public sector pension).

But since last spring, their behavior has gotten out of hand. They fully support everything Trump does and if you bring up something that’s obviously corruption they start ranting about Biden. My father said something very ugly over Thanksgiving dinner, just nasty and wrong to say right in front of my kids, and my mother just sat there quietly saying nothing. She’s a retired teacher, FFS, and wouldn’t correct him.

I’d avoid all Trump topics with them altogether but for my DH and I this is personal because we’re feds, have friends and family who are feds, and have seen first hand the fallout of this administration’s cruel decisions. But my parents refuse to even say something as simple as “we’re sorry this is happening to you” or “it’s wrong.” Thus just insist Trump is protecting the country from the Communists. Yep, the Commies again.

Last month, when Epstein came up, my mother declared I need to stop reading about Epstein, it’s old news and then chided me with “you focus on my children.” This is the same woman who was up in arms years ago when she learned one of my junior high teachers was arrested for pedophilia.

I’m disgusted and feel like they have turned into people I can’t have much of a relationship with. I have a sibling who gets on well with them and I’m at the point of telling her she’s on her own except for emergencies.

Most feds are extremely liberal and that's also a problem. The govt shouldn't be liberal or conservative it should be balanced

Wow that's not true. I worked at different govt agencies and always felt like there were more conservatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH’s parents are MAGA. He said it’d be better if they were dead instead of losing them to the insanity.

I can't come to believe that certain old people can be "lost" to MAGA. People are attracted or repulsed based on their pre-existing values. My grandparents were kind and decent and, while they didn't live long enough to see MAGA, they would never had been taken by mocking disabled people or just plain gratuitous cruelty. By contrast, my father bragged to us about bedding other women, so of course he is attracted to a man who grabs them by the p****y. My mother had her 4 children on food stamps and still hates the poor, so of course she loves a billionaire who accepts a $400MM gift from an Arab state. No one should be surprised that their family is MAGA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH’s parents are MAGA. He said it’d be better if they were dead instead of losing them to the insanity.

I can't come to believe that certain old people can be "lost" to MAGA. People are attracted or repulsed based on their pre-existing values. My grandparents were kind and decent and, while they didn't live long enough to see MAGA, they would never had been taken by mocking disabled people or just plain gratuitous cruelty. By contrast, my father bragged to us about bedding other women, so of course he is attracted to a man who grabs them by the p****y. My mother had her 4 children on food stamps and still hates the poor, so of course she loves a billionaire who accepts a $400MM gift from an Arab state. No one should be surprised that their family is MAGA.

Exactly! My parents always had racist views and hate the poor. No surprise there!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH’s parents are MAGA. He said it’d be better if they were dead instead of losing them to the insanity.

I can't come to believe that certain old people can be "lost" to MAGA. People are attracted or repulsed based on their pre-existing values. My grandparents were kind and decent and, while they didn't live long enough to see MAGA, they would never had been taken by mocking disabled people or just plain gratuitous cruelty. By contrast, my father bragged to us about bedding other women, so of course he is attracted to a man who grabs them by the p****y. My mother had her 4 children on food stamps and still hates the poor, so of course she loves a billionaire who accepts a $400MM gift from an Arab state. No one should be surprised that their family is MAGA.

Exactly! My parents always had racist views and hate the poor. No surprise there!

As a minority (Black), I've always been confused about people acting surprised by their parents' newfound MAGA allegiance and racist/homophobic/etc beliefs. Sincere question: were there really no signs until the last few years. I can't imagine not being aware of my parents' uglier side for my entire life. I'm not judging (I promise) but how can adult children (or even teenagers) not recognize this in their parents at an earlier stage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH’s parents are MAGA. He said it’d be better if they were dead instead of losing them to the insanity.

I can't come to believe that certain old people can be "lost" to MAGA. People are attracted or repulsed based on their pre-existing values. My grandparents were kind and decent and, while they didn't live long enough to see MAGA, they would never had been taken by mocking disabled people or just plain gratuitous cruelty. By contrast, my father bragged to us about bedding other women, so of course he is attracted to a man who grabs them by the p****y. My mother had her 4 children on food stamps and still hates the poor, so of course she loves a billionaire who accepts a $400MM gift from an Arab state. No one should be surprised that their family is MAGA.

Exactly! My parents always had racist views and hate the poor. No surprise there!

As a minority (Black), I've always been confused about people acting surprised by their parents' newfound MAGA allegiance and racist/homophobic/etc beliefs. Sincere question: were there really no signs until the last few years. I can't imagine not being aware of my parents' uglier side for my entire life. I'm not judging (I promise) but how can adult children (or even teenagers) not recognize this in their parents at an earlier stage?

Their beliefs and opinions haven’t changed. There’s just a name to be aligned with now. People act as if MAGA is brainwashing their elders. It’s comical. Newsflash, your elders have always been this way. If your grandparents are over 75-80, they were/are racist and grandpa probably put hands on your grandma. They’re also who raised your parents.

MAGA is just a name for their like minded counterparts. They’ve always been who they are.

[Anonymous]

I think some people really do change based on a non-stop fox news diet and being around an exclusively maga social scene in retirement communities. They are excited to be in the know on these crazy conspiracies and also scared silly by the way fox presents this stuff. I have to google the phrases my parents use to even understand what they are talking about since it doesn't relate to anything you see anywhere else and if I contest it the response is usually some version that I don't "love my country" and am basically a traitor if I don't see it their way. The total lack of empathy is totally different than they were when i was growing up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since Trump took office again they’ve become increasingly partisan and racist. I’ve known they’ve had a racist side— my mother has always commented on the race of new people they meet or who bought a house down the block, while my father will just declare nasty things about certain ethnic groups and then play poor disenfranchised white man (while sitting in his $1 million home with a generous public sector pension).

But since last spring, their behavior has gotten out of hand. They fully support everything Trump does and if you bring up something that’s obviously corruption they start ranting about Biden. My father said something very ugly over Thanksgiving dinner, just nasty and wrong to say right in front of my kids, and my mother just sat there quietly saying nothing. She’s a retired teacher, FFS, and wouldn’t correct him.

I’d avoid all Trump topics with them altogether but for my DH and I this is personal because we’re feds, have friends and family who are feds, and have seen first hand the fallout of this administration’s cruel decisions. But my parents refuse to even say something as simple as “we’re sorry this is happening to you” or “it’s wrong.” Thus just insist Trump is protecting the country from the Communists. Yep, the Commies again.

Last month, when Epstein came up, my mother declared I need to stop reading about Epstein, it’s old news and then chided me with “you focus on my children.” This is the same woman who was up in arms years ago when she learned one of my junior high teachers was arrested for pedophilia.

I’m disgusted and feel like they have turned into people I can’t have much of a relationship with. I have a sibling who gets on well with them and I’m at the point of telling her she’s on her own except for emergencies.

Most feds are extremely liberal and that's also a problem. The govt shouldn't be liberal or conservative it should be balanced

How in this world could you accurately measure this when there does not exist a survey or questionnaire asking employees their political leanings? This sounds like something that you imagined and are now spreading lies. The federal government is huge with lots of diversity, including political leanings. As a former employee of a DoD subagency, I can tell you that my collegues were far from liberal. And I can only make that assumption or gage based on personal conversations, which is all anecdotal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My parents, thankfully, have not succumbed, but some of their friends have. One in particular was over the edge. Her family finally took her phone away. I'm sure she still watches Fox News, but she's off the social media circle of doom silo, and she is almost back to the person we've always loved.

Love this deprogramming

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think some people really do change based on a non-stop fox news diet and being around an exclusively maga social scene in retirement communities. They are excited to be in the know on these crazy conspiracies and also scared silly by the way fox presents this stuff. I have to google the phrases my parents use to even understand what they are talking about since it doesn't relate to anything you see anywhere else and if I contest it the response is usually some version that I don't "love my country" and am basically a traitor if I don't see it their way. The total lack of empathy is totally different than they were when i was growing up.

+1 and it used to be something people didn’t say out loud, they knew it was bad- now trump encourages it do they act like a$& clowns. And oh my god the lies that are told!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My parents, thankfully, have not succumbed, but some of their friends have. One in particular was over the edge. Her family finally took her phone away. I'm sure she still watches Fox News, but she's off the social media circle of doom silo, and she is almost back to the person we've always loved.

Love this deprogramming

I blocked Fox and nbc from my parents tv and leave their radios and Alexa on npr all day. Suddenly, they have become very critical of trump and think he’s changed. No, you just finally stopped hearing lies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Op - you are lucky to have parents that are alive. Grow up - none of the stuff you are ranting about matters. Your parents are not in positions of power.

We are on this earth for a very short of time.

This is such bs

+1 spewing hatred in front of young kids is a big deal. I don't care who you are. I don't want my kids exposed to that kind of hatred.

Neither did I when my in-laws said “The Israelis are brutal people” then looked at me and said “Oh, we don’t mean the Jews” in front of my Jewish kids.

Are your kids Israeli? If not, you are overreacting here. People can object to the actions of the Israeli government and not generalize those objections to all Jews everywhere. Duh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since Trump took office again they’ve become increasingly partisan and racist. I’ve known they’ve had a racist side— my mother has always commented on the race of new people they meet or who bought a house down the block, while my father will just declare nasty things about certain ethnic groups and then play poor disenfranchised white man (while sitting in his $1 million home with a generous public sector pension).

But since last spring, their behavior has gotten out of hand. They fully support everything Trump does and if you bring up something that’s obviously corruption they start ranting about Biden. My father said something very ugly over Thanksgiving dinner, just nasty and wrong to say right in front of my kids, and my mother just sat there quietly saying nothing. She’s a retired teacher, FFS, and wouldn’t correct him.

I’d avoid all Trump topics with them altogether but for my DH and I this is personal because we’re feds, have friends and family who are feds, and have seen first hand the fallout of this administration’s cruel decisions. But my parents refuse to even say something as simple as “we’re sorry this is happening to you” or “it’s wrong.” Thus just insist Trump is protecting the country from the Communists. Yep, the Commies again.

Last month, when Epstein came up, my mother declared I need to stop reading about Epstein, it’s old news and then chided me with “you focus on my children.” This is the same woman who was up in arms years ago when she learned one of my junior high teachers was arrested for pedophilia.

I’m disgusted and feel like they have turned into people I can’t have much of a relationship with. I have a sibling who gets on well with them and I’m at the point of telling her she’s on her own except for emergencies.

Most feds are extremely liberal and that's also a problem. The govt shouldn't be liberal or conservative it should be balanced

Wow that's not true. I worked at different govt agencies and always felt like there were more conservatives.

Not at the two agencies I worked at.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My parents, thankfully, have not succumbed, but some of their friends have. One in particular was over the edge. Her family finally took her phone away. I'm sure she still watches Fox News, but she's off the social media circle of doom silo, and she is almost back to the person we've always loved.

Love this deprogramming

I blocked Fox and nbc from my parents tv and leave their radios and Alexa on npr all day. Suddenly, they have become very critical of trump and think he’s changed. No, you just finally stopped hearing lies.

that didn't happen.