Vanity weight loss

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just eat less and exercise more? It's free and easy to do.

LOL it does not work.

I am 4'10" eating less does not move the needle.

I have been to my primary, gyn, endocrinologist and they all said same thing GLP

Here's the thing.. will you be on the GLP for life? If not you will just gain it all back when your appetite returns. If you are not capable of eating less to lose weight you will not be capable of eating less to keep the weight off.

Now I am not at all against GLP1s I think they are amazing and I felt great on it, but the reality is, it is nearly impossible to keep the weight off when you go off. Yes, there are some who do, but they are the exception, not the norm and are probably the ones who could have lost the weight without medication.

What do you see as the problem with people being on this medication for life? Both of my parents have taken blood pressure medication and statins since their 40s and and are now close to 80. Is that problematic. to you too? Or is it only that you don't think weight loss is as worthy of a medical issue?

I have no issue with people being on the medication for life. But anyone going on the medication should ask themselves if THEY are realistically wiling to be on it for life even if that means paying out of pocket at the rate of $300/month.

I don't think most people go into it thinking of this. I think many want to believe that losing the weight is the hard part and once they get to their goal weight they will be able to maintain it without the medication and this is simply not true and backed by science.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a party for a bunch of 40+ thin milf looking moms, and they all were taking it to keep 10 pounds down. The common discussion was that everyone's body wanted to stay overweight and the glps removed that threshold

I think if your body wants to stay 10lbs heavier than you are, then you are underweight at the -10. BMI is a dumb measurement.

People's bodies "want to stay overweight" because that is what fits into their lifestyle.
Their life is build around eating and often drinking a certain way and that keeps them at their current weight.

I can guarantee that all the "nothing works" people would absolutely lose weight if I put them in a controlled environment where they were giving a set calorie diet every single day for a month. I can guarantee no one is coming out of there weighing more or "unable to lose weight."

No I get that we don't live in controlled environments and that makes eating less really hard, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible.

I exercise 7-8 hrs/week, I know in order to lose my vanity weight, I need to add another strength session and 3-4 hour long walks. I already eat low calorie diet.

But it’s the extra 5 hours that I don’t have.

What is your height, weight and current calorie diet? I ask because when taking about inability to lose weight everyone love to list the hours of exercise they do and plan to do more to lose while at the same time not being able to say exactly how may calories they are consuming on a daily and weekly basis. Many people eat "low calorie" or "eat heathy" or "eat clean" without being able to quantify in calories what that actually means. Or eat well "most days" but overeat on weekends.

Exercise for health diet for fat loss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not just eat less and exercise more? It's free and easy to do.

LOL it does not work.

I am 4'10" eating less does not move the needle.

I have been to my primary, gyn, endocrinologist and they all said same thing GLP

Here's the thing.. will you be on the GLP for life? If not you will just gain it all back when your appetite returns. If you are not capable of eating less to lose weight you will not be capable of eating less to keep the weight off.

Now I am not at all against GLP1s I think they are amazing and I felt great on it, but the reality is, it is nearly impossible to keep the weight off when you go off. Yes, there are some who do, but they are the exception, not the norm and are probably the ones who could have lost the weight without medication.

What do you see as the problem with people being on this medication for life? Both of my parents have taken blood pressure medication and statins since their 40s and and are now close to 80. Is that problematic. to you too? Or is it only that you don't think weight loss is as worthy of a medical issue?

I have no issue with people being on the medication for life. But anyone going on the medication should ask themselves if THEY are realistically wiling to be on it for life even if that means paying out of pocket at the rate of $300/month.

I don't think most people go into it thinking of this. I think many want to believe that losing the weight is the hard part and once they get to their goal weight they will be able to maintain it without the medication and this is simply not true and backed by science.

Here is the strange thing: being on the meds losing weight is no longer "the hard part", which is why it's so freeing and feels like a miracle: losing weight is just what is happening to you as you eat well and exercise and live your life. I only think about the shot and weight loss once a week for 1 minute, that's it.

And it contrasts with the before with no meds: doing it the hard way for years/decades with diet and exercise and constant thinking and deprivation and hunger and NOT seeing weight loss or just 1lb gained, lost, gained and the frustration of it all.

And I'd say people (based on the support groups I am in, and for people who do not have bad side effects obviously...personally have none) are generally very aware they'd regain without the support of the medication. Generic meds are also much cheaper online bringing cost down to under $100/mo especially for maintenance. It is a very small price to pay for better health, looks AND the mental freedom of not constantly obsessing about food and weight loss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a party for a bunch of 40+ thin milf looking moms, and they all were taking it to keep 10 pounds down. The common discussion was that everyone's body wanted to stay overweight and the glps removed that threshold

I think if your body wants to stay 10lbs heavier than you are, then you are underweight at the -10. BMI is a dumb measurement.

People's bodies "want to stay overweight" because that is what fits into their lifestyle.
Their life is build around eating and often drinking a certain way and that keeps them at their current weight.

I can guarantee that all the "nothing works" people would absolutely lose weight if I put them in a controlled environment where they were giving a set calorie diet every single day for a month. I can guarantee no one is coming out of there weighing more or "unable to lose weight."

No I get that we don't live in controlled environments and that makes eating less really hard, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible.

I exercise 7-8 hrs/week, I know in order to lose my vanity weight, I need to add another strength session and 3-4 hour long walks. I already eat low calorie diet.

But it’s the extra 5 hours that I don’t have.

What is your height, weight and current calorie diet? I ask because when taking about inability to lose weight everyone love to list the hours of exercise they do and plan to do more to lose while at the same time not being able to say exactly how may calories they are consuming on a daily and weekly basis. Many people eat "low calorie" or "eat heathy" or "eat clean" without being able to quantify in calories what that actually means. Or eat well "most days" but overeat on weekends.

Exercise for health diet for fat loss.

I am 5’2” at 125lb, I alternate 1400 cal with a couple 900 calorie weekend days. Mild exercise all day is how we evolved, having a desk job is unnatural for our hormones, mood and brain chemistry. I am not saying we need to take peloton classes twice a day, but that extra 8000 steps really make a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not just eat less and exercise more? It's free and easy to do.

LOL it does not work.

I am 4'10" eating less does not move the needle.

I have been to my primary, gyn, endocrinologist and they all said same thing GLP

Here's the thing.. will you be on the GLP for life? If not you will just gain it all back when your appetite returns. If you are not capable of eating less to lose weight you will not be capable of eating less to keep the weight off.

Now I am not at all against GLP1s I think they are amazing and I felt great on it, but the reality is, it is nearly impossible to keep the weight off when you go off. Yes, there are some who do, but they are the exception, not the norm and are probably the ones who could have lost the weight without medication.

What do you see as the problem with people being on this medication for life? Both of my parents have taken blood pressure medication and statins since their 40s and and are now close to 80. Is that problematic. to you too? Or is it only that you don't think weight loss is as worthy of a medical issue?

I have no issue with people being on the medication for life. But anyone going on the medication should ask themselves if THEY are realistically wiling to be on it for life even if that means paying out of pocket at the rate of $300/month.

I don't think most people go into it thinking of this. I think many want to believe that losing the weight is the hard part and once they get to their goal weight they will be able to maintain it without the medication and this is simply not true and backed by science.

This is such a patronizing statement. You are telling me that I may have to spend my hard earned money to cut my cancer risk dramatically, make me healthier and feel good about myself? Yes it is worth it. And I save at least $300/mo in food and wine which I don't consume any longer.

[Anonymous]

At 56 and the past 3 years having been losing and gaining the same 8 lbs every 6 months.

Prior to this my weight was the exact same to the pound for over 30 years.

I eat very healthy and have worked out 6 days per week (and sometimes 7) my entire life. I was a college soccer player, then a marathon runner. I have always lifted weight 3-4 days per week before that was even a thing most women did.

Menopause is a b@tch. To stay at my life setpoint is exhausting (and we are talking 145lbs). I had to tack on an 1 hour-1.5 hour walk (very hilly or with weighted vest) in addition to whatever exercise I did earlier in the day and eat like a spartan. It is not sustainable.

This is why Serena did glp. I am so frustrated and all of my thyroid panels are normal. I’m thinking of throwing in the towel and finding some way to micro dose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At 56 and the past 3 years having been losing and gaining the same 8 lbs every 6 months.

Prior to this my weight was the exact same to the pound for over 30 years.

I eat very healthy and have worked out 6 days per week (and sometimes 7) my entire life. I was a college soccer player, then a marathon runner. I have always lifted weight 3-4 days per week before that was even a thing most women did.

Menopause is a b@tch. To stay at my life setpoint is exhausting (and we are talking 145lbs). I had to tack on an 1 hour-1.5 hour walk (very hilly or with weighted vest) in addition to whatever exercise I did earlier in the day and eat like a spartan. It is not sustainable.

This is why Serena did glp. I am so frustrated and all of my thyroid panels are normal. I’m thinking of throwing in the towel and finding some way to micro dose.

Some people’s metabolism is off. Mine started this way around age 16.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At 56 and the past 3 years having been losing and gaining the same 8 lbs every 6 months.

Prior to this my weight was the exact same to the pound for over 30 years.

I eat very healthy and have worked out 6 days per week (and sometimes 7) my entire life. I was a college soccer player, then a marathon runner. I have always lifted weight 3-4 days per week before that was even a thing most women did.

Menopause is a b@tch. To stay at my life setpoint is exhausting (and we are talking 145lbs). I had to tack on an 1 hour-1.5 hour walk (very hilly or with weighted vest) in addition to whatever exercise I did earlier in the day and eat like a spartan. It is not sustainable.

This is why Serena did glp. I am so frustrated and all of my thyroid panels are normal. I’m thinking of throwing in the towel and finding some way to micro dose.

I agree, I mean if you live in the Swiss alps and work as a hiking tour guide, you can def go 15lb lower but we have white collar modern job in DC…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not just eat less and exercise more? It's free and easy to do.

LOL it does not work.

I am 4'10" eating less does not move the needle.

I have been to my primary, gyn, endocrinologist and they all said same thing GLP

Here's the thing.. will you be on the GLP for life? If not you will just gain it all back when your appetite returns. If you are not capable of eating less to lose weight you will not be capable of eating less to keep the weight off.

Now I am not at all against GLP1s I think they are amazing and I felt great on it, but the reality is, it is nearly impossible to keep the weight off when you go off. Yes, there are some who do, but they are the exception, not the norm and are probably the ones who could have lost the weight without medication.

What do you see as the problem with people being on this medication for life? Both of my parents have taken blood pressure medication and statins since their 40s and and are now close to 80. Is that problematic. to you too? Or is it only that you don't think weight loss is as worthy of a medical issue?

I have no issue with people being on the medication for life. But anyone going on the medication should ask themselves if THEY are realistically wiling to be on it for life even if that means paying out of pocket at the rate of $300/month.

I don't think most people go into it thinking of this. I think many want to believe that losing the weight is the hard part and once they get to their goal weight they will be able to maintain it without the medication and this is simply not true and backed by science.

This is such a patronizing statement. You are telling me that I may have to spend my hard earned money to cut my cancer risk dramatically, make me healthier and feel good about myself? Yes it is worth it. And I save at least $300/mo in food and wine which I don't consume any longer.

How is this patronizing? Most people are not on this medication for the health benefits. The majority are on it the sake of vanity. I am not at all against that. I also fully believe most people don't really plan or expect to be on it for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not just eat less and exercise more? It's free and easy to do.

LOL it does not work.

I am 4'10" eating less does not move the needle.

I have been to my primary, gyn, endocrinologist and they all said same thing GLP

Here's the thing.. will you be on the GLP for life? If not you will just gain it all back when your appetite returns. If you are not capable of eating less to lose weight you will not be capable of eating less to keep the weight off.

Now I am not at all against GLP1s I think they are amazing and I felt great on it, but the reality is, it is nearly impossible to keep the weight off when you go off. Yes, there are some who do, but they are the exception, not the norm and are probably the ones who could have lost the weight without medication.

What do you see as the problem with people being on this medication for life? Both of my parents have taken blood pressure medication and statins since their 40s and and are now close to 80. Is that problematic. to you too? Or is it only that you don't think weight loss is as worthy of a medical issue?

I have no issue with people being on the medication for life. But anyone going on the medication should ask themselves if THEY are realistically wiling to be on it for life even if that means paying out of pocket at the rate of $300/month.

I don't think most people go into it thinking of this. I think many want to believe that losing the weight is the hard part and once they get to their goal weight they will be able to maintain it without the medication and this is simply not true and backed by science.

+1 $300/month is a lot of money and once you stop the weight will come back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just started and used Noom. They will do microdosing for a BMI of 21 or more. For me, ever since my mid 40s the weight has been creeping up despite healthy diet, exercise, sleep, water, limited alcohol, you name it… It was very frustrating. But I think the hardest part for me—and the reason I decided to try it—has been the constant food noise. It’s as if my body always wanted to eat more, so I was either giving in or fighting it constantly, and this was no matter how much I ate. Addiction runs in my family so I often wonder if this is how it manifests: like a constant obsession that just doesn’t go away until you do the thing. I’m only on week two of an incredibly low dose but that noise is gone. It’s amazing. When I’m hungry, I eat, and then I’m good and just don’t want to eat anymore. I don’t care if I don’t even lose a pound. For that alone, it’s worth it for me.

Microdosing for a BMI of 21 is insane. These companies are so shady.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was discussing this with friends this weekend.

3 of us are on GLP-1, I'm considered "thin" and "healthy looking" ... I look like Illona if you need a picture.

All 3 of us are "losing vanity weight" but when we reach our goal weight we will still be "overweight" on the BMI chart.

The 4th person wants to lose 8 lbs. I personally don't think it will work. I'm 25lbs overweight trying to lose 20 and it doesn't just fall off, once you get close to "healthy" weight the body doesn't dump the weight like when you are obese.

IDK maybe it does for others.

If your goal weights are still over 25 BMI after losing 20 lbs that isn't vanity weight, you need to lose it for your health. Ilona is a professional athlete so isn't a good comparison. And no one would say she is thin, although she is certainly healthy looking.

You are probably about where I was when I started GLP-1, and have lost 35-40 lbs and down to 22.5 BMI. When I look at my pictures from a couple of years ago I was really overweight but I didn't feel it or even see it at the time. Now I look normal, but not thin. And I sleep better, have less inflammation and joint pain, and Ai-c is back to healthy range.

The disorder thinking that an Olympic athlete isn’t thin is why we have all these issues with weight. Even when someone is a perfect weight people categorize them as not thin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not just eat less and exercise more? It's free and easy to do.

LOL it does not work.

I am 4'10" eating less does not move the needle.

I have been to my primary, gyn, endocrinologist and they all said same thing GLP

Here's the thing.. will you be on the GLP for life? If not you will just gain it all back when your appetite returns. If you are not capable of eating less to lose weight you will not be capable of eating less to keep the weight off.

Now I am not at all against GLP1s I think they are amazing and I felt great on it, but the reality is, it is nearly impossible to keep the weight off when you go off. Yes, there are some who do, but they are the exception, not the norm and are probably the ones who could have lost the weight without medication.

What do you see as the problem with people being on this medication for life? Both of my parents have taken blood pressure medication and statins since their 40s and and are now close to 80. Is that problematic. to you too? Or is it only that you don't think weight loss is as worthy of a medical issue?

I have no issue with people being on the medication for life. But anyone going on the medication should ask themselves if THEY are realistically wiling to be on it for life even if that means paying out of pocket at the rate of $300/month.

I don't think most people go into it thinking of this. I think many want to believe that losing the weight is the hard part and once they get to their goal weight they will be able to maintain it without the medication and this is simply not true and backed by science.

+1 $300/month is a lot of money and once you stop the weight will come back.

Ozempic is now covered and same cost as the pill.

[Anonymous]

I have tried diet and exercise over the last 8 years and I have still gained a few pounds over the years consistently. I track my food, go to strength training class, use the ellliptical 5 days a week and go to yoga. My BMI hit 24 this year. I am a solid size 8.

When my primary care paperwork listed me as overweight I decided to reach out to Ro. It has been three weeks on Wegovy and I have lost 3 pounds. I don’t feel like my eating has changed. I would like to lose 15 and if I have to take this for the rest of my life- that is fine

[Anonymous]

What do you all like better, the pen or the pill?