Why is fascism more taboo than communism?

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t comparative politics part of our basic high school education? Millions of people would stop falling for these boogeymen like communism and Marxism if they actually understood what they mean and what they are.

It's pretty simple really. You just have to explain how in China, they didn't have property during communism they all had literal communal toilets.

You don't even understand the difference between PERSONAL property and PUBLIC property. Communism isn't sharing a toilet, it means some billionaire doesn't get to buy up things that should belong to everyone and sell it back to us for a profit. For example, in most developed countries they have robust public transportation available at a low cost. We don't have that here because the billionaires want to sell us cars and charge us for Ubers and escooters instead of funding buses and trains.

No really they had & have communal toilets.

The Chinese Communist Party under Mao made a very explicit “heavy-industry first” choice. The first Five-Year Plans (1953–1957 and onward) were modeled on the Soviet experience: pour as much capital and labour as possible into steel, coal, power plants, railways, tractors, and defense. Housing and consumer goods were officially classed as “non-productive” sectors and got what was left over.

That deliberate policy produced:

Tiny state-built apartments with shared kitchens and toilets (the famous gongfang or “public housing” blocks).

Slow infrastructure investment in water, sewage and household plumbing.

Austerity campaigns that made spartan living a virtue and damped down public complaints.

So while the country’s poverty and weak infrastructure set the baseline, the leadership did, in fact, choose to invest the scarce resources in industry first and accept very low living standards — including communal toilets — as the trade-off. Only after the post-1978 reforms, when growth shifted toward light industry and consumer goods and housing was privatized, did private bathrooms become the norm.

So they succeeded in bringing their population of over a billion people out of poverty into the modern age, collectively. Also plenty of countries have communal toilets. They're called public toilets, and we could use some in the US. I personally don't enjoy having to beg to use the bathroom when out in public, and having businesses extort money out of me just to get access.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism.

Because human nature and the environment won’t allow it. It’s not realistic.

Communism is a fantasy. It is a utopian dangling carrot used to dupe the masses to give power to power hungry people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism.

Because human nature and the environment won’t allow it. It’s not realistic.

Communism is a fantasy. It is a utopian dangling carrot used to dupe the masses to give power to power hungry people.

Use your brain. What you're saying doesn't even make sense. Human nature, of people who are mentally well, is to share and cooperate.

It's capitalism that is at odds with environmental realities. You cannot have infinite growth, which capitalism requires, on an infinite planet. We have to find a sustainable way to share the finite resources of this planet.

Free market capitalism is also a fantasy, and inevitably gathers power in the hands of the wealthy few, and dangles the carrot of riches to the masses through the lie of meritocracy. The markets aren't free, we have never been a meritocracy, and the only true measure of power in this country is dollars.

[Anonymous]

No one these days knows what fascism means. Whereas Communism and socialism (although the US has plenty of popular socialist programs) have been demonized. The Dems calling Trump a fascist totally does not land well. Call it what it is: cruel and corrupt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism.

Because human nature and the environment won’t allow it. It’s not realistic.

Communism is a fantasy. It is a utopian dangling carrot used to dupe the masses to give power to power hungry people.

Use your brain. What you're saying doesn't even make sense. Human nature, of people who are mentally well, is to share and cooperate.

It's capitalism that is at odds with environmental realities. You cannot have infinite growth, which capitalism requires, on an infinite planet. We have to find a sustainable way to share the finite resources of this planet.

Free market capitalism is also a fantasy, and inevitably gathers power in the hands of the wealthy few, and dangles the carrot of riches to the masses through the lie of meritocracy. The markets aren't free, we have never been a meritocracy, and the only true measure of power in this country is dollars.

Have you ever met a mammal. Literally any mammal.

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It isn't to me. They're both horrendous. And both inevitably lead to authoritarianism, human oppression, and failure.

[Anonymous]

Communism is a noble ideology with unfortunate consequences. Fascism is just downright evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism.

Because human nature and the environment won’t allow it. It’s not realistic.

Communism is a fantasy. It is a utopian dangling carrot used to dupe the masses to give power to power hungry people.

Use your brain. What you're saying doesn't even make sense. Human nature, of people who are mentally well, is to share and cooperate.

It's capitalism that is at odds with environmental realities. You cannot have infinite growth, which capitalism requires, on an infinite planet. We have to find a sustainable way to share the finite resources of this planet.

Free market capitalism is also a fantasy, and inevitably gathers power in the hands of the wealthy few, and dangles the carrot of riches to the masses through the lie of meritocracy. The markets aren't free, we have never been a meritocracy, and the only true measure of power in this country is dollars.

Exactly. Everything in this wasteland of a country is designed to make the rich richer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Communism is a noble ideology with unfortunate consequences. Fascism is just downright evil.

Nah. Communism is evil. Evil to the core.

Don’t be fooled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Communism is a noble ideology with unfortunate consequences. Fascism is just downright evil.

Why do you think it’s noble? It seems ideologically as evil as fascism to me. I do not mean in practice (because of course we all know the consequences in practice) but the concept.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism.

Because human nature and the environment won’t allow it. It’s not realistic.

Communism is a fantasy. It is a utopian dangling carrot used to dupe the masses to give power to power hungry people.

Use your brain. What you're saying doesn't even make sense. Human nature, of people who are mentally well, is to share and cooperate.

It's capitalism that is at odds with environmental realities. You cannot have infinite growth, which capitalism requires, on an infinite planet. We have to find a sustainable way to share the finite resources of this planet.

Free market capitalism is also a fantasy, and inevitably gathers power in the hands of the wealthy few, and dangles the carrot of riches to the masses through the lie of meritocracy. The markets aren't free, we have never been a meritocracy, and the only true measure of power in this country is dollars.

Have you ever met a mammal. Literally any mammal.

It's truly sad that you believe the worst about yourself and everyone else. Generally, someone whose brain is healthy and whose basic needs are met, they are going to be willing to share and cooperate with others. I'm not going to deny that we live in a sick society with a lot of mentally ill and damaged people, with a lot of suffering and need. I do not believe that selfishness and violence is our nature, at least not entirely and other traits could be nurtured in a healthier environment.

[Anonymous]

The simple answer is that the US has an evil fascist government, and evil fascist individuals directly advocating for mass human suffering, but the communists and communist adjacent people in the US have little power and aren't constantly calling for genocide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism.

Because human nature and the environment won’t allow it. It’s not realistic.

Communism is a fantasy. It is a utopian dangling carrot used to dupe the masses to give power to power hungry people.

Use your brain. What you're saying doesn't even make sense. Human nature, of people who are mentally well, is to share and cooperate.

It's capitalism that is at odds with environmental realities. You cannot have infinite growth, which capitalism requires, on an infinite planet. We have to find a sustainable way to share the finite resources of this planet.

Free market capitalism is also a fantasy, and inevitably gathers power in the hands of the wealthy few, and dangles the carrot of riches to the masses through the lie of meritocracy. The markets aren't free, we have never been a meritocracy, and the only true measure of power in this country is dollars.

Have you ever met a mammal. Literally any mammal.

Go read a book. The defining features of mammals vs reptiles is being social. Especially among herbivores and omnivores.

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Anonymous wrote:Communism is a noble ideology with unfortunate consequences. Fascism is just downright evil.

Why do you think it’s noble? It seems ideologically as evil as fascism to me. I do not mean in practice (because of course we all know the consequences in practice) but the concept.

What is wrong with the concept of everyone contributing equally and benefitting equally in a society? The problem is that eventually people are selfish.

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I'm surprised that no one brought up the example of Yugoslavia. If there was ever an example of communism at its best, that was it. And no, communism is not an evil ideology. It's the leaders to appoint themselves dictators that make it evil but that is no different than what we have in the US now.