Why is fascism more taboo than communism?

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s discuss all the Communists at the No Kings parade.

If you went to a No Kings protest, you stood with communists.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s discuss all the Communists at the No Kings parade.

If you went to a No Kings protest, you stood with communists.

No one’s buying this routine.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason planned economic systems with collectivism as the fundamental matrix (what simpletons refer to as “communism”) hasn’t been 100% successful is that frankly, the right people haven’t been in charge.

Collectivism is THE ideal economic model. There is nothing more egalitarian than collective ownership of the means of production and no need for private property. This isn’t subject to debate.

But the right people haven’t been in charge. That is a failing of the people, not of collectivism.

No, it's fully subject to debate and you don't know what the F you're talking about.

Central planning of economies is the death knell. Communism and collectivism have never been successful anywhere they have been tried.

Command economies can't be properly planned because there is never enough data to properly distribute goods and services efficiently. It's impossible.

That leads to shortages, resources that go unused, unintended consequences, and demand destruction at a much faster rate than any westernized economy.

BTW, we haven't had Capitalism in the U.S. for one hundred years.

There's is nothing more efficient than the hidden hand of market economics.

'The pretend to pay us and we pretend to work." - Soviet Political Joke

I love how you tell PP that he doesn't know what the F he is talking about and then proceed to spew a bunch of utter nonsense not supported by any historical account.

I was the PP who wrote the post praising collectivism and planned economies and eliminating private property in favor of state ownership of everything, and “the only reason it hasn’t worked so far is the right people haven’t been in charge”.

I’m a troll. I was just putting the stupidest cliches I know of about communism down in one post, just to see if some idiot would agree with me - and of course someone did.

I need to dumb down my game for y’all. It’s pointless to be sarcastic when people start agreeing with you.

Well, the idiot is you.

I've lived the communist experience with a leader in charge who was, yes, a dictator but a benevolent one. Things worked for a very long time and people still look back fondly on the years that he was in charge.

You think WAY too highly of yourself, the self-proclaimed troll.

Then why did you come here? Why didn’t you opt to stay in your worker’s paradise where you can laugh and look down on us poor unfortunates who haven’t seen the benefits of a benevolent communist dictator, as you describe this person.

Why did you come here? Why do you stay? Why aren’t you going back?

There has to be some reason.

Such a typical, ignorant, American thing to say. One, no one was laughing at you. Why are you so fragile and insecure? We are discussing communism and how it might have been implemented around the world. I simply listed things that worked well for over 50 years for several million people. If you can’t learn anything from experiences of people commenting why are you here? To yell into the internet abyss?

I left because after Tito died the economy went to shit and people who tried to fill the void left by him made the country fall apart. I lived through full on war for 4 years and lost everything.

I’m sure you’ll come back with something super insightful again. 😂😂

So you steadfastly maintain the US sucks, but you came here and aren’t leaving.

That’s the takeaway.

+1

It sounds like you would be happier in Sarajevo, fortunately unlike the Soviet bloc we don’t have emigration restrictions and you are free to leave and establish workers paradise in Bosnia. See ya.

Typical. MAGA hate to be challenged on anything. Simply explaining a 60-year history of a country is too much and they must shout, "go back to your country." So unoriginal.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s discuss all the Communists at the No Kings parade.

If you went to a No Kings protest, you stood with communists.

You think Epoch Times is a real newspaper, don’t you?

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s discuss all the Communists at the No Kings parade.

If you went to a No Kings protest, you stood with communists.

Trump is a real OG communist for having the government buy stakes in Intel and now Westinghouse!

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Anonymous wrote:Fascism is a total failure when it comes to killing millions of people. At best, the fascist tally is perhaps 15 million.

Compare that to socialism/communism’s total of 100 million.


Fascists are pikers when it comes to filling mass graves.

Oh please. That is so intellectually dishonest. You’re comparing 100 years of communist regimes to a dozen years of Nazi rule. Under the Nazis, 15 million were murdered (and that’s not even counting the 71 million civilian and military deaths directly caused by the Axis powers during WWII). How many more would have been killed if the Nazis had stayed in power for 100 years?

1) had the Nazis *won*, the war would’ve also ended. That’s what happens when one side WINS a war - the war stops. So it’s pretty disingenuous of you to extrapolate the continuation of deaths attributed to being lost fighting a war to go on at the same rate after the END of the war.


2) I was counting the US as a “fascist” state for the first 4 years of Trump’s first term, and the current 10 months of Trump’s second term - because people like you insist he’s a fascist so I’m humoring you. And in almost 5 years of a US fascist government, we haven’t filled even a single mass grave with the enemies of the administration.


Trump really sucks at this whole “fascism” thing.

Did you forget the "tomorrow the world" part? Hitler's goal was not just to establish his Aryan paradise, but to capture resources from the rest of the world and exterminate/enslave whoever was needed to accomplish that goal. Spain and Italy would have been his friends, perhaps, and Arab countries and Japan, and they would have divvied up the entirety.

Fascism is certainly not just about mass graves. And it requires ostensibly using the tools of law and government (but distorting their intent and choosing particular targets) to accomplish its repression. Extorting law firms and universities, threatening media via the use of regulatory agencies--while EXPLICITLY carrying out policies that oppose existing law and the constitution.

So, basically what the Biden administration did during the covid pandemic? Coercing tech companies to censor and de-platform anyone who posted opinions contrary to the govt health talking points? Using OSHA to strong arm private industry into requiring employees to get vaccinated? Outlawing some freedom of assembly like church attendance, but allowing it for protesting?

You’re right - we HAVE seen a taste of what fascism looks like in this country. And it wasn’t Trump that brought it to us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s discuss all the Communists at the No Kings parade.

If you went to a No Kings protest, you stood with communists.

Trump is a real OG communist for having the government buy stakes in Intel and now Westinghouse!

Uh, actual communists wouldn’t buy a stake in anything. They’d simply take it by force and kill the owners.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s discuss all the Communists at the No Kings parade.

If you went to a No Kings protest, you stood with communists.

Trump is a real OG communist for having the government buy stakes in Intel and now Westinghouse!

Uh, actual communists wouldn’t buy a stake in anything. They’d simply take it by force and kill the owners.

Yes, correct. That accurately describes a kibbutz in Palestine.

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It’s right on your website:

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Anonymous wrote:It’s right on your website:

Ah - I see it now, toward the bottom of the page:

CPUSA or “Communist Party USA,” and “Young Communist League” are partly behind the No Kings march, along with many other extreme-left groups.

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Anonymous wrote:Fascism is a total failure when it comes to killing millions of people. At best, the fascist tally is perhaps 15 million.

Compare that to socialism/communism’s total of 100 million.


Fascists are pikers when it comes to filling mass graves.

Oh please. That is so intellectually dishonest. You’re comparing 100 years of communist regimes to a dozen years of Nazi rule. Under the Nazis, 15 million were murdered (and that’s not even counting the 71 million civilian and military deaths directly caused by the Axis powers during WWII). How many more would have been killed if the Nazis had stayed in power for 100 years?

1) had the Nazis *won*, the war would’ve also ended. That’s what happens when one side WINS a war - the war stops. So it’s pretty disingenuous of you to extrapolate the continuation of deaths attributed to being lost fighting a war to go on at the same rate after the END of the war.


2) I was counting the US as a “fascist” state for the first 4 years of Trump’s first term, and the current 10 months of Trump’s second term - because people like you insist he’s a fascist so I’m humoring you. And in almost 5 years of a US fascist government, we haven’t filled even a single mass grave with the enemies of the administration.


Trump really sucks at this whole “fascism” thing.

Did you forget the "tomorrow the world" part? Hitler's goal was not just to establish his Aryan paradise, but to capture resources from the rest of the world and exterminate/enslave whoever was needed to accomplish that goal. Spain and Italy would have been his friends, perhaps, and Arab countries and Japan, and they would have divvied up the entirety.

Fascism is certainly not just about mass graves. And it requires ostensibly using the tools of law and government (but distorting their intent and choosing particular targets) to accomplish its repression. Extorting law firms and universities, threatening media via the use of regulatory agencies--while EXPLICITLY carrying out policies that oppose existing law and the constitution.

So, basically what the Biden administration did during the covid pandemic? Coercing tech companies to censor and de-platform anyone who posted opinions contrary to the govt health talking points? Using OSHA to strong arm private industry into requiring employees to get vaccinated? Outlawing some freedom of assembly like church attendance, but allowing it for protesting?

You’re right - we HAVE seen a taste of what fascism looks like in this country. And it wasn’t Trump that brought it to us.

Please open a textbook and learn what fascism is. It is not temporary measures taken to combat a public health emergency. Had the government not taken action, and allowed Covid to burn through the population, there would have been many more mass graves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fascism is a total failure when it comes to killing millions of people. At best, the fascist tally is perhaps 15 million.

Compare that to socialism/communism’s total of 100 million.


Fascists are pikers when it comes to filling mass graves.

Oh please. That is so intellectually dishonest. You’re comparing 100 years of communist regimes to a dozen years of Nazi rule. Under the Nazis, 15 million were murdered (and that’s not even counting the 71 million civilian and military deaths directly caused by the Axis powers during WWII). How many more would have been killed if the Nazis had stayed in power for 100 years?

1) had the Nazis *won*, the war would’ve also ended. That’s what happens when one side WINS a war - the war stops. So it’s pretty disingenuous of you to extrapolate the continuation of deaths attributed to being lost fighting a war to go on at the same rate after the END of the war.


2) I was counting the US as a “fascist” state for the first 4 years of Trump’s first term, and the current 10 months of Trump’s second term - because people like you insist he’s a fascist so I’m humoring you. And in almost 5 years of a US fascist government, we haven’t filled even a single mass grave with the enemies of the administration.


Trump really sucks at this whole “fascism” thing.

Pretty disingenuous of YOU to think the Nazis would have stopped exterminating Jews and other “undesirables” after winning the war and conquering all of Europe. Fascists never say “ok, that’s enough, we’re cleansed now”. They go on to other targets.

As for mass graves, people don’t have to be executed directly by the state. That’s old school. They can simply allow people to starve (by cutting off USAID and SNAP), deny them access to medical care, cut funding for cancer research, promote policies that allow infectious diseases to spread, etc. Excess deaths under Trump are already approaching 1 million, and it’s going to get worse. In case you haven’t noticed, the billionaires regard us as a surplus population.

Anyway, the entire mass graves argument is hollow, because it’s not part of the definition of fascism.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s right on your website:

Ah - I see it now, toward the bottom of the page:

CPUSA or “Communist Party USA,” and “Young Communist League” are partly behind the No Kings march, along with many other extreme-left groups.

They are no more powerful than the local high school club for kids who like Chipotle. There is nothing communist about not wanting a king or military in our streets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s right on your website:

Ah - I see it now, toward the bottom of the page:

CPUSA or “Communist Party USA,” and “Young Communist League” are partly behind the No Kings march, along with many other extreme-left groups.

They are no more powerful than the local high school club for kids who like Chipotle. There is nothing communist about not wanting a king or military in our streets.

The avowed communists in the US have never represented much more than 1% of the American populace. There aren't enough of them to really matter. Whereas, Trump approval polls are still at 39% which at this point is starting to look like the number of Americans who are fine with fascism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s discuss all the Communists at the No Kings parade.

If you went to a No Kings protest, you stood with communists.

No one’s buying this routine.

https://communistusa.org/report/raising-the-communist-banner-at-nyc-no-kings/

They claim they were there.