Why is fascism more taboo than communism?

[Anonymous]

Let me preface this by saying that I am not a supporter of either ideology and I think that the proof is in history that both are dangerous.

If you look at both fascist governments and communist governments in history, both have committed genocides. Most notably, communists perpetrated the Cambodian Genocide (7.1 million), the USSR’s various genocides (debated, but 5-10 million, potentially up to 20 million over the course of the USSR). The fascist example of Nazi Germany is the most famous (11 million). Both killed a ton of people.

Yet growing up in the 90’s and 2000’s, it was ok to wear a hammer and scythe t shirt. DC has a Marx Cafe, but can you imagine a fascist themed bar? Reddit has a r/communism community with 260k members for communism enthusiasts, yet no fascist related communities.

Clearly one is more taboo than the other.

Why?

[Anonymous]

Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

[Anonymous]

Fellow travelers have outsized influence in media and academia through the long march through the institutions.

They also mischaracterize authoritarianism as fascism, while ignoring the socilaist policies that fascists expoused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism.

[Anonymous]

When was it okay to wear a hammer and scythe t shirt and who was wearing it?

Marxism does not equal communism.

The Khmer Rouge was Communist inspired but deviated heavily from the core premises in its extreme brutalism.

A perverted applciation of Communism is the preferred "government" for fascists.

Your entire premise is flawed

[Anonymous]

I don't think anyone wants to be fascist, it is more of a response to a society collapsing or taking several steps backwards sort of when colonialism/imperialism collapsed in Europe and they could no longer support the monarchies. Maybe some people dream of fascism with their A for anarchy patches sewn on their punk clothing, but other than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism. [/quote]

Yep... free market healtchcare, sweatshops, meatpacking factories.

[Anonymous]

Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

People die everyday under capitalism. How many more millions need to die before it too is considered a failed system?

How many died of covid for profits? How many die in preventable workplace accidents for profits? How many die because they cant afford healthcare or their insurance denies them treatment? How many people starve and die on the streets of exposure because we treat housing and food as an avenue for profit rather than a human right? How many deaths of despair happen everyday due to the weight of living in a cycle of poverty required to sustain the capitalist system? Miss me with the bullpuckey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone wants to be fascist, it is more of a response to a society collapsing or taking several steps backwards sort of when colonialism/imperialism collapsed in Europe and they could no longer support the monarchies. Maybe some people dream of fascism with their A for anarchy patches sewn on their punk clothing, but other than that.

Uh, anarchy is something different. Fascist dreamers go for SS symbols and swastikas. Or white polo shirts and khakis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism.

its taboo b/c it was supported by the western "liberal" powers so you couldn't have people engaging with it in depth b/c then they would realize this- Greece, Spain were fascist states and Greece was explicitly helped by the US & UK, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Suharto, the phillipines.. these are off the top of my head but the USA explicitly aided abetted and supported facsimile all over the global south so couldn't have fascism studied as a known system b/c then citizens would realize what the government was encouraging. if you don't know what something is- how can you recognize it??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because communism, in theory, benefits the people.

This. And there's never been a true communist or socialist government. The West will never allow it because it threatens the superhold the parasite class has on the world. What we have seen are authoritarian regimes wearing the banner of being for the people to justify their takeover.

Fascism is literally the opposite of socialism/communism, and serves only to benefit the parasite class. The conflating of socialism with fascism is purposeful.

Also the idea that communist regimes have been uniquely evil in a way that capitalism hasn't been is a lie. So much death and destruction and suffering and violence happens on a daily basis for the sake of profits, but that conveniently never gets attributed to capitalism.

China and Russia would like a word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

People die everyday under capitalism. How many more millions need to die before it too is considered a failed system?

How many died of covid for profits? How many die in preventable workplace accidents for profits? How many die because they cant afford healthcare or their insurance denies them treatment? How many people starve and die on the streets of exposure because we treat housing and food as an avenue for profit rather than a human right? How many deaths of despair happen everyday due to the weight of living in a cycle of poverty required to sustain the capitalist system? Miss me with the bullpuckey.

Uh, we have numbers here. I mean, a lot fewer than the millions that died under Stalin and Mao?

You seem remarkably ignorant.

[Anonymous]

So dumb. China is a one party communism government with huge market forces that derail a theoretical true communist regime.

Same with Russia. It was (is?) a one party system in which the STATE controlled the economy. Under communism, the means and production are owned by the community.

It would be super helpful if some of you took a world history class and bothered to learn definitions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

People die everyday under capitalism. How many more millions need to die before it too is considered a failed system?

How many died of covid for profits? How many die in preventable workplace accidents for profits? How many die because they cant afford healthcare or their insurance denies them treatment? How many people starve and die on the streets of exposure because we treat housing and food as an avenue for profit rather than a human right? How many deaths of despair happen everyday due to the weight of living in a cycle of poverty required to sustain the capitalist system? Miss me with the bullpuckey.

Oh yes, communism where everyone will live in a magical utopia with free housing, free healthcare, free education, free childcare, and free everything. That's great on paper. Until reality sets in and someone has to pay for all of the free stuff. No one wants to work hard and no one wants to invent things if the state will always take it. You have zero incentive to do anything other than the bare minimum if you will get the same exact food ration as your lazy neighbor who does half the work. And that's why communism always fails. They have to point guns at people to work agrarian jobs to make sure they can even have enough food.

We will all be oh so great again when 84 year olds are forced to work backbreaking jobs on the farms in 99 degree weather like the Khemer Rouge forced their people to do while facing down the barrel of a gun. Their reward was 400 calories of plain rice to eat per day. But hey, at least the rice was distributed evenly! Never mind the fact that 20% of the entire population was murdered under Pol Pot.

But it wasn't real communism! Lol.