PSA-Hoco season

[Anonymous]

You should maybe plan something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD has several good friends who all want in their Hoco group. But there is one mean girl who doesn’t and she is the queen bee. The other girls are afraid to stand up to her. That girl is a horrible person and so are her parents for being checked out, or worse, condoning her behavior.

Why do we pretend people like this don’t exist, or don’t behave this way intentionally?

Look at their moms. They're all on here advocating for exclusion.

PP here. And the mean girl’s mom is super Christian. She is from the south, has a thick accent, and is always talking about Jesus. I am not even kidding.

[Anonymous]

How about she initiates, OP? It's a skill. A skill required that everyone needs to work on to improve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about she initiates, OP? It's a skill. A skill required that everyone needs to work on to improve.

DP here. Many of us have tried, repeatedly. The Queen Bee’s have such a death grip that the other kids are scared to defect from her group, even if they don’t like her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about she initiates, OP? It's a skill. A skill required that everyone needs to work on to improve.

DP here. Many of us have tried, repeatedly. The Queen Bee’s have such a death grip that the other kids are scared to defect from her group, even if they don’t like her.

So if they are really that mean and spineless why do you or your DD want to hang out with them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OHHH I have one!

"Parents, please remind your kids"... to wear dresses that cover their bottoms!

How's that?

Oh here come the hand-wringing boy moms who hate the dresses!

Nope no boys! Just sick of the trashy dresses that say more about the moms of these girls than anything else. I guess you're one!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD has several good friends who all want in their Hoco group. But there is one mean girl who doesn’t and she is the queen bee. The other girls are afraid to stand up to her. That girl is a horrible person and so are her parents for being checked out, or worse, condoning her behavior.

Why do we pretend people like this don’t exist, or don’t behave this way intentionally?

Look at their moms. They're all on here advocating for exclusion.

PP here. And the mean girl’s mom is super Christian. She is from the south, has a thick accent, and is always talking about Jesus. I am not even kidding.

Those kind of people are usually the worst. I’m not surprised at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about she initiates, OP? It's a skill. A skill required that everyone needs to work on to improve.

DP here. Many of us have tried, repeatedly. The Queen Bee’s have such a death grip that the other kids are scared to defect from her group, even if they don’t like her.

I have not known many groups where there is a Queen Bee. Surely your daughter could find a different group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about she initiates, OP? It's a skill. A skill required that everyone needs to work on to improve.

DP here. Many of us have tried, repeatedly. The Queen Bee’s have such a death grip that the other kids are scared to defect from her group, even if they don’t like her.

I have not known many groups where there is a Queen Bee. Surely your daughter could find a different group.

That would require action on her daughter's part and pp wants to remove any sort of personal responsibility from her daughter while ironically expecting it of others

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about she initiates, OP? It's a skill. A skill required that everyone needs to work on to improve.

DP here. Many of us have tried, repeatedly. The Queen Bee’s have such a death grip that the other kids are scared to defect from her group, even if they don’t like her.

I have not known many groups where there is a Queen Bee. Surely your daughter could find a different group.

Then you aren't paying attention or are very lucky. That' doesn't make your experience universal.

What is so hard about reminding kids to be inclusive? Why does that offend you so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OHHH I have one!

"Parents, please remind your kids"... to wear dresses that cover their bottoms!

How's that?

Oh here come the hand-wringing boy moms who hate the dresses!

Nope no boys! Just sick of the trashy dresses that say more about the moms of these girls than anything else. I guess you're one!

Please post a link to the dress your daughter is wearing or has worn. We'll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about she initiates, OP? It's a skill. A skill required that everyone needs to work on to improve.

DP here. Many of us have tried, repeatedly. The Queen Bee’s have such a death grip that the other kids are scared to defect from her group, even if they don’t like her.

I have not known many groups where there is a Queen Bee. Surely your daughter could find a different group.

Then you aren't paying attention or are very lucky. That' doesn't make your experience universal.

What is so hard about reminding kids to be inclusive? Why does that offend you so?

Why is it so hard for you to hold your own daughter accountable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about she initiates, OP? It's a skill. A skill required that everyone needs to work on to improve.

DP here. Many of us have tried, repeatedly. The Queen Bee’s have such a death grip that the other kids are scared to defect from her group, even if they don’t like her.

I have not known many groups where there is a Queen Bee. Surely your daughter could find a different group.

Then you aren't paying attention or are very lucky. That' doesn't make your experience universal.

What is so hard about reminding kids to be inclusive? Why does that offend you so?

It doesn’t offend me but I don’t think it’s helpful. Everyone needs to find the place where they fit in. A pity invite doesn’t translate int friendship and frankly I think it’s kind of embarrassing. I can’t imagine kids actually accept them. And if they do I can’t imagine they actually have fun.

If kids are really struggling, they need to try some clubs, a church youth group, a sport or something where they can actually find their community.

[Anonymous]

I don't get why this has to be a PSA every fall. Do these kids not think about making friends the rest of the year? If they made more of an effort they wouldn't have to resort to their moms making a desperate plea to not exclude. Where were these lonely kids over the summer? Did they reach out and make plans? Did they try to connect last spring? You can't just show up one time for hoco and then go back and hide under your shell. Friendship goes both ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about she initiates, OP? It's a skill. A skill required that everyone needs to work on to improve.

DP here. Many of us have tried, repeatedly. The Queen Bee’s have such a death grip that the other kids are scared to defect from her group, even if they don’t like her.

I have not known many groups where there is a Queen Bee. Surely your daughter could find a different group.

Then you aren't paying attention or are very lucky. That' doesn't make your experience universal.

What is so hard about reminding kids to be inclusive? Why does that offend you so?

Why is it so hard for you to hold your own daughter accountable?

You must have me confused. My daughter has a group for homecoming (that is open to others) and is doing just fine. That doesn't mean she doesn't know exactly the kind of kids OP is talking about.