How are conservatives in US (specifically in Middle America and Bible Belt) so supportive of Israel ye are anti-Semitic?

[Anonymous]

Here, look. Southern colleges get the best marks for being normal toward Jews: https://sjlmag.com/2024/11/22/once-again-southern-schools-get-best-marks-in-campus-antisemitism-scorecard/

Jewish students increasingly heading South for college to escape antisemitism: https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here, look. Southern colleges get the best marks for being normal toward Jews: https://sjlmag.com/2024/11/22/once-again-southern-schools-get-best-marks-in-campus-antisemitism-scorecard/

Jewish students increasingly heading South for college to escape antisemitism: https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Define “anti-Semetism”

Because for years, the right wing and Isreali bots online have tried to define it as any criticism of Israel. If THAT’S what one is trying to escape, then yes, the South is for you. But don’t mistake support for Israel for support for Jews.

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Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

Maybe you need to listen to what's said with an unbiased ear.

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Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

People are siloed, friend.

If you are a Christian evangelical / fundamentalist you don't hang around "regular" Christians.

This. The Southern Presbyterians who believe in prosperity Christianity are a closed social circle. But even the less extreme and less wealthy people split their churches over gay marriage and they consider traditional Episcopalians godless hippie liberals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here, look. Southern colleges get the best marks for being normal toward Jews: https://sjlmag.com/2024/11/22/once-again-southern-schools-get-best-marks-in-campus-antisemitism-scorecard/

Jewish students increasingly heading South for college to escape antisemitism: https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Define “anti-Semetism”

Because for years, the right wing and Isreali bots online have tried to define it as any criticism of Israel. If THAT’S what one is trying to escape, then yes, the South is for you. But don’t mistake support for Israel for support for Jews.

All the southerners have chimed in that we have no issue with Jewish people. These Jewish publications are noting that the South has the best environment for Jews. Maybe you're just.... wrong? Because it appears that Jews think you're wrong, and they would be in a position to know where they are welcome.

[Anonymous]

And a lot of us are former southern Jews for a reason. because there is a lot of antisemitism there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And a lot of us are former southern Jews for a reason. because there is a lot of antisemitism there.

Given that the left is now openly antisemitic, you may want to recognize that cultures evolve.

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Anonymous wrote:Here, look. Southern colleges get the best marks for being normal toward Jews: https://sjlmag.com/2024/11/22/once-again-southern-schools-get-best-marks-in-campus-antisemitism-scorecard/

Jewish students increasingly heading South for college to escape antisemitism: https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Define “anti-Semetism”

Because for years, the right wing and Isreali bots online have tried to define it as any criticism of Israel. If THAT’S what one is trying to escape, then yes, the South is for you. But don’t mistake support for Israel for support for Jews.

All the southerners have chimed in that we have no issue with Jewish people. These Jewish publications are noting that the South has the best environment for Jews. Maybe you're just.... wrong? Because it appears that Jews think you're wrong, and they would be in a position to know where they are welcome.

Maybe people can be anything they want behind an anonymous post online. Don’t be so naive.

I lived in the Deep South. They will be nice to your face but no, Jewish people in the south are only included on museum and hospital boards for fundraising. They will not harass you or call you names, but they 100% think you’re “as bad” as atheists. And Catholics for that matter. If you don’t understand this or believe this, perhaps you confuse places like Atlanta and Huntsville with the rest of the Bible Belt.

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Anonymous wrote:And a lot of us are former southern Jews for a reason. because there is a lot of antisemitism there.

Given that the left is now openly antisemitic, you may want to recognize that cultures evolve.

Calling out a country’s war crimes is not anti-Semitic. So tired.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here, look. Southern colleges get the best marks for being normal toward Jews: https://sjlmag.com/2024/11/22/once-again-southern-schools-get-best-marks-in-campus-antisemitism-scorecard/

Jewish students increasingly heading South for college to escape antisemitism: https://www.thefp.com/p/kids-skip-ivy-league-for-southern-schools

Define “anti-Semetism”

Because for years, the right wing and Isreali bots online have tried to define it as any criticism of Israel. If THAT’S what one is trying to escape, then yes, the South is for you. But don’t mistake support for Israel for support for Jews.

All the southerners have chimed in that we have no issue with Jewish people. These Jewish publications are noting that the South has the best environment for Jews. Maybe you're just.... wrong? Because it appears that Jews think you're wrong, and they would be in a position to know where they are welcome.

Maybe people can be anything they want behind an anonymous post online. Don’t be so naive.

I lived in the Deep South. They will be nice to your face but no, Jewish people in the south are only included on museum and hospital boards for fundraising. They will not harass you or call you names, but they 100% think you’re “as bad” as atheists. And Catholics for that matter. If you don’t understand this or believe this, perhaps you confuse places like Atlanta and Huntsville with the rest of the Bible Belt.

Look. I can see you're seeking common ground with red states, but this isn't going to be it. We won't hate Jews with you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

People are siloed, friend.

If you are a Christian evangelical / fundamentalist you don't hang around "regular" Christians.

This. The Southern Presbyterians who believe in prosperity Christianity are a closed social circle. But even the less extreme and less wealthy people split their churches over gay marriage and they consider traditional Episcopalians godless hippie liberals.

Never in my entire life (and I'm not young) have I ever heard southern Presbyterians associated with a prosperity Christianity message.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

Who are "they"? Can you give specific names and quotes?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the deep south. I don't really hear anti Semitic comments basically ever. The opposite, really.

+1 And I never hear anyone talking about the rapture or Jews dying, etc. I'm not sure where some of these posters live (or have lived) and can't imagine where they hear friends, family members or anyone else espousing such drivel.

The liberal mind excels at making shit up and lying to itself

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Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

People are siloed, friend.

If you are a Christian evangelical / fundamentalist you don't hang around "regular" Christians.

This. The Southern Presbyterians who believe in prosperity Christianity are a closed social circle. But even the less extreme and less wealthy people split their churches over gay marriage and they consider traditional Episcopalians godless hippie liberals.

Never in my entire life (and I'm not young) have I ever heard southern Presbyterians associated with a prosperity Christianity message.

I guess you haven’t lived there or read much about prosperity Christians then.

[Anonymous]

Evangelical Christians feel a biblical connection to the land of Israel. But it's not like they're living in Williamsburg and have to deal with all the crap Hasidic Jews inflict on communities, whether Brooklyn or the West Bank. For most evangelicals, Jews are hypothetical people. They don't know many. But over the past seventy years, it's generally Palestinians and Islamists that bring the terror - from the Munich Olympics to all all the hijackings and bombings to attacking the Cole and blowing up US embassies and Marine barracks in Beirut to 9/11 to 10/7 and on and on. So for evangelicals, Israelis seem like an embattled people surrounded by horrible people. And that's how a lot of evangelicals feel in the modern world. So they are naturally sympathetic with Israelis, even beyond Revelations and all that stuff. Evangelicals and Israelis vibe.