How are conservatives in US (specifically in Middle America and Bible Belt) so supportive of Israel ye are anti-Semitic?

[Anonymous]

Because they finally found a group they hate more than they’ve hated Jews— illegal migrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

They value the CHRISTIAN Holy Land but don't give a damn about Jews. And then there's all the "End Times" stuff which requires Israel to exist per prophecy. But again they still don't care about Jews, they just care that a place called Israel exists. Everything is an abstraction in their smooth brains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

They value the CHRISTIAN Holy Land but don't give a damn about Jews. And then there's all the "End Times" stuff which requires Israel to exist per prophecy. But again they still don't care about Jews, they just care that a place called Israel exists. Everything is an abstraction in their smooth brains.

So where do you hang out that you have work colleagues? family members? friends? who express these views?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm in the deep south. I don't really hear anti Semitic comments basically ever. The opposite, really.

+1 And I never hear anyone talking about the rapture or Jews dying, etc. I'm not sure where some of these posters live (or have lived) and can't imagine where they hear friends, family members or anyone else espousing such drivel.

Yes, I have never heard anyone talking about rapture either. I used to live in Maryland and saw bumper stickers about the rapture. It's really not a thing down here. Church is just very different here than in the northeast. You absolutely cannot tell that to these people though, they cling to their beliefs like a Branch Davidian with a gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

They value the CHRISTIAN Holy Land but don't give a damn about Jews. And then there's all the "End Times" stuff which requires Israel to exist per prophecy. But again they still don't care about Jews, they just care that a place called Israel exists. Everything is an abstraction in their smooth brains.

So where do you hang out that you have work colleagues? family members? friends? who express these views?

DP - this is what the Evangelicals preach every Sunday. Is this really new to you?

[Anonymous]

Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

They value the CHRISTIAN Holy Land but don't give a damn about Jews. And then there's all the "End Times" stuff which requires Israel to exist per prophecy. But again they still don't care about Jews, they just care that a place called Israel exists. Everything is an abstraction in their smooth brains.

So where do you hang out that you have work colleagues? family members? friends? who express these views?

DP - this is what the Evangelicals preach every Sunday. Is this really new to you?

When and why do you attend their services to know what they're saying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

It is only the doctrine that institutionally supports the eradication of the Jews in Israel that is crazy, and sadly, these are the people in control of the US government right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

[Anonymous]

Maybe because their lord and Savior is a Jew?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

The only thing insightful about it is how batsh!t crazy these jeezus freaks really are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They believe that it’s part of the rapture and end times. All the Jews will die to save their souls. They are very very sick people.

That is not what Christians believe.

As a Christian, I can clarify that the central belief is that Jesus already died to save all souls—Jew and Gentile alike. His resurrection fulfilled the law, offering a path to redemption and a relationship with God to anyone who has faith and confesses Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. No further sacrifice is needed.

People of faith across the globe—Jews, Christians, Muslims—believe in a holy, sovereign God. We may access our relationship with Him differently, call Him by different names (Allah, Yahweh, Abba, El Shaddai), and follow different covenants. But many of us share a deep reverence for the divine.

The rapture, for those who believe in that theology, is a supernatural event signaling the return of Christ. Those who believe are said to be taken to heaven; those who don’t remain on Earth during a period called the Great Tribulation. It is not about Jews dying for salvation. That idea is a distortion—dangerous and deeply offensive to both Jews and Christians.

TLDR, Christians believe Jesus fulfilled the law for all people, but God gives free will and the choice to believe Jesus’ teachings are left to each individual soul. The Jewish people are honored in Scripture as the lineage through which Jesus came. Any theology rooted in hatred or violence is not of Christ, which means it’s not of our Heavenly Father (God).

Not all Christians believe the same thing. Wealthy, powerful Southern Presbyterians are largely “prosperity Christians” and they make up a big portion of the current republican platform and offices right now. It’s bat$hit crazy cult thinking and its opposite the values this country was founded upon and all the improvements to civil rights we’ve made since then.