How are conservatives in US (specifically in Middle America and Bible Belt) so supportive of Israel ye are anti-Semitic?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

That’s some legalese right there. It’s typical enough to be a problem and it’s not hard to find others with the same experience.

[Anonymous]

Do you want them to hate Israel like the non-Christians?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

PP here. I have never heard of Jews for Jesus. I’m not an evangelical - I’m non-denominational and non-traditional. I rarely discuss my personal beliefs, but thought DCUM might appreciate a weigh in from someone that the OP directed this towards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm in the deep south. I don't really hear anti Semitic comments basically ever. The opposite, really.

That's because there are almost no Jews there. One of my siblings and Jewish lives in a small college town in the South and, yeah, once they are out of the college town, it is definitely anti-semitic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe because their lord and Savior is a Jew?

They don't believe Jesus was a Jew. They think he's a light skinned blue-eyed Caucasian who spoke English and who somehow didn't actually say any of those things about feeding the poor and taking care of the sick and the elderly and giving refuge to strangers and so on. That's their fake Jesus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

People are siloed, friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

That’s some legalese right there. It’s typical enough to be a problem and it’s not hard to find others with the same experience.

Similar to those who say their experiences lead them to think in stereotypes like most Californians are aging hippies, Hollywood types, druggies, tech nerds or carefree surfers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe because their lord and Savior is a Jew?

They don't believe Jesus was a Jew. They think he's a light skinned blue-eyed Caucasian who spoke English and who somehow didn't actually say any of those things about feeding the poor and taking care of the sick and the elderly and giving refuge to strangers and so on. That's their fake Jesus.

Okay, Jay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

Controlled opposition and fake Christians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

People are siloed, friend.

If you are a Christian evangelical / fundamentalist you don't hang around "regular" Christians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course not all are anti-semitic but there's a good percentage who express those views who also view Israel as ``Holy Land''.

Also why do these people support dictator-like people (won't say names) but also project their great support for Israel and ignore the genocide and starving children in Palestine? Where are their Christian values and love?

Probably taught to love fellow Christians or Jews (because of "holy land") not necessarily others

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians (including Catholics) do believe in the rapture—but it’s not a one-size-fits-all doctrine. It’s like belief in climate change: most believe it exists, but how they interpret it (literal, symbolic, urgent, future, current) varies depending on denomination, upbringing, and study. Some even deny it entirely.

In my experience growing up in both the DMV and Southern Baptist Bible Belt, churches rarely preach about the rapture or the Second Coming during Sunday worship services. Sundays are for fellowship, worship, encouragement, giving, and spiritual uplift for the week ahead.

The deeper theological discussions—about the Book of Revelation, end times, eschatology—typically happen in Bible Study, often on weekday evenings. And let’s be honest: attendance there is low. Sunday service may be packed, but Bible Study often draws maybe 20% of the congregation—50% if it’s a really engaged church.

There are entire subcultures within both Christianity and Judaism that hold differing views on belief, practice, ideology, and political alignment. I’ve even heard powerful testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus—yes, they exist! One minister on TBN (?) shared how his understanding of the color blue (royalty, lapis, priesthood) helped him connect Old Testament symbolism with Jesus as Messiah. It was deeply moving.

That said, DCUM is probably not the place to expect a respectful or representative sampling of those nuances.

I’ll just say this: the vast majority of people on this planet believe in God. You may reject organized religion or differ in theology, but globally, that puts you in the minority. Across cultures, languages, and continents, billions of people center their lives around some understanding of a higher power. That’s a deeply human experience, not a fringe one. So before labeling entire faith communities as “crazy” or “sick,” it’s worth remembering that what you might find unfamiliar or irrational is, for most of the world, sacred and central to their identity.

+1 Thank you so much for this insightful and beautifully written post.

Not very insightful. Just a bunch of assumptions. Many here in DCUM land have grown up in small towns and have plenty of personal experience and family members that let us understand what is going on perfectly well. My own father for example told me that the covid vaccine was the mark of the beast and that communism and leftists were the antichrist.

BTW Jews for jesus is a christian group that tries to convert people to christianity. Using judaism as an opening to brainwash more people is not an honorable thing and deserves no respect.

Your example from your extreme background is not typical of Christians.

Then maybe the "typical" Christians needs to start speaking up and repudiating the fundamentalists before it is too late.

People are siloed, friend.

From one Christian to another, let's break down "Make America Great Again” vs. The Gospel of Jesus

Claiming Christ while rejecting His core commands is spiritual fraud. The Gospels and New Testament epistles are clear: Jesus stood with the poor, the sick, the stranger, and the marginalized. MAGA-aligned Christians often promote policies and rhetoric that directly oppose these teachings.

Care for the Poor, Sick, and Marginalized:
“Whatever you did for one of the least of these… you did for me.” — Matthew 25:40
“Blessed are the poor… the meek… those who hunger for righteousness.” — Matthew 5:3–6
“Sell your possessions and give to the poor.” — Luke 12:33
“Is it not to share your bread with the hungry… bring the homeless poor into your house?” — Isaiah 58:7

MAGA on the other hand is the complete opposite: Cuts to social programs, hostility toward the homeless, and disdain for “welfare” directly oppose these commands.

Welcoming the Stranger:
“I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” — Matthew 25:35
“Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers.” — Hebrews 13:2
“Love your neighbor as yourself.” — Mark 12:31

The MAGA contradiction: Anti-immigrant rhetoric, refugee bans, and border cruelty violate Christ’s call to radical hospitality.

Wealth, Greed, and Taxes:
“You cannot serve both God and money.” — Matthew 6:24
“Woe to you who are rich… you have received your consolation.” — Luke 6:24
“Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s.” — Matthew 22:21

The MAGA contradiction: Tax avoidance, trickle-down economics, and glorification of wealth clash with Jesus’ warnings about riches and civic responsibility.

Hypocrisy and Power Worship:
“Woe to you… hypocrites! You give a tenth… but neglect justice and mercy.” — Matthew 23:23
“The greatest among you must be your servant.” — Matthew 23:11
“My kingdom is not of this world.” — John 18:36

The MAGA contradiction: Idolizing political power, demonizing opponents, and using religion as a partisan weapon betray the humility and servant-leadership Jesus modeled.

MAGA Christianity is fraudulent. It replaces the cross with a flag, compassion with control, and Christ’s upside-down kingdom with a top-down power grab. As one theological rebuke puts it: "You have knelt before a new golden calf - one adorned in political colors and unyielding rhetoric."

[Anonymous]

great post, thank you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm in the deep south. I don't really hear anti Semitic comments basically ever. The opposite, really.

That's because there are almost no Jews there. One of my siblings and Jewish lives in a small college town in the South and, yeah, once they are out of the college town, it is definitely anti-semitic.

Sorry but the latter part of your statement just isn't true. You don't find a lot of southern whites with concerns about Jews. It just isnt a thing, which is why you find strong support for Israel in the deep south.

I know this is mind boggling to you.

[Anonymous]

Because the south is mostly evangelicals who want the rapture.

Thanks for playing.