Getting out of the friend zone and into...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't rape anybody. Saying that is borderline nuts. The woman said she didn't want to drive home. That doesn't mean she couldn't consent to sex. I offered the couch. She asked to sleep in my bed and then told me she wanted to have sex. And in the morning she wanted to do it again. And when she saw me a few weeks later she said she wanted to do it again. A year later, when she got a serious BF, she said she wanted to introduce me and said she had told him about our night together.

Lots of people drink before consensual sex

Accusing me of rape in that totally ordinary situation is insulting to me but it's also is bad for actual victims of rape. People shouldn't throw around accusations like that.

This isn’t a story that paints you a good or neutral light.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't rape anybody. Saying that is borderline nuts. The woman said she didn't want to drive home. That doesn't mean she couldn't consent to sex. I offered the couch. She asked to sleep in my bed and then told me she wanted to have sex. And in the morning she wanted to do it again. And when she saw me a few weeks later she said she wanted to do it again. A year later, when she got a serious BF, she said she wanted to introduce me and said she had told him about our night together.

Lots of people drink before consensual sex

Accusing me of rape in that totally ordinary situation is insulting to me but it's also is bad for actual victims of rape. People shouldn't throw around accusations like that.

That’s… literally what it means. What is wrong with you? Instead of calling other people nuts, maybe do some introspection and figure out why you’re bragging about having non-consensual sex with someone you considered a friend. You seem to be reacting poorly to being called a rapist, but please consider the content of the message instead of the knee jerk “no I’m not” response. No one likes to hear negative things about themselves, but that’s what you did. By your own words. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Brock Turner raped an unconscious person.

OP had sex with someone who said she wanted to have sex.

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Anonymous wrote:I once friend zoned and was friend zoned by a woman but we enjoyed spending time together. One time she came over to watch a movie and she drank too much. She said she couldn't drive home safely. She also started making sexual comments that weren't subtle at all.

Since she was drunk said she could sleep on the couch. She ended up sleeping with me in my bed. She turned out to be one of the most talented lovers I've ever known. The sex was amazing. We did it once around midnight and again after the sun came up in the morning.

But here's the strange thing. I still wasn't very attracted to her. We still saw each other every couple of months for a while but we never did it again. Eventually we each found other people.

I don't understand how I could not be attracted to a woman who I slept with twice in 8 hours, but I wasn't. She said she wanted to do it again but didn't seem upset when I said no. Back to friend zone. She's a nice person and not ugly at all. Even pretty.

She couldn’t consent. You raped your friend.

These men just keep outing themselves. Jesus Christ what is wrong with men.

DP. I was surprised he decided to confess that.

Rapists have no shame I guess.

BS. Just because she had too much to drink to be able to drive home doesn’t mean she didn’t know exactly what was going on. If you read closer, SHE was the one making sexual comments. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Yes, obviously. But the harpies on this threat will twist the facts to fit their desired narrative ("men are trash!" "men are rapists")

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I once friend zoned and was friend zoned by a woman but we enjoyed spending time together. One time she came over to watch a movie and she drank too much. She said she couldn't drive home safely. She also started making sexual comments that weren't subtle at all.

Since she was drunk said she could sleep on the couch. She ended up sleeping with me in my bed. She turned out to be one of the most talented lovers I've ever known. The sex was amazing. We did it once around midnight and again after the sun came up in the morning.

But here's the strange thing. I still wasn't very attracted to her. We still saw each other every couple of months for a while but we never did it again. Eventually we each found other people.

I don't understand how I could not be attracted to a woman who I slept with twice in 8 hours, but I wasn't. She said she wanted to do it again but didn't seem upset when I said no. Back to friend zone. She's a nice person and not ugly at all. Even pretty.

She couldn’t consent. You raped your friend.

These men just keep outing themselves. Jesus Christ what is wrong with men.

DP. I was surprised he decided to confess that.

Rapists have no shame I guess.

BS. Just because she had too much to drink to be able to drive home doesn’t mean she didn’t know exactly what was going on. If you read closer, SHE was the one making sexual comments. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Yes, obviously. But the harpies on this threat will twist the facts to fit their desired narrative ("men are trash!" "men are rapists")

Bro, having sex with someone who cannot consent is the definition of rape. You don’t need to be a harpy to see that as hugely problematic :/ . You are giving men a bad name acting like this.

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Anonymous wrote:I once friend zoned and was friend zoned by a woman but we enjoyed spending time together. One time she came over to watch a movie and she drank too much. She said she couldn't drive home safely. She also started making sexual comments that weren't subtle at all.

Since she was drunk said she could sleep on the couch. She ended up sleeping with me in my bed. She turned out to be one of the most talented lovers I've ever known. The sex was amazing. We did it once around midnight and again after the sun came up in the morning.

But here's the strange thing. I still wasn't very attracted to her. We still saw each other every couple of months for a while but we never did it again. Eventually we each found other people.

I don't understand how I could not be attracted to a woman who I slept with twice in 8 hours, but I wasn't. She said she wanted to do it again but didn't seem upset when I said no. Back to friend zone. She's a nice person and not ugly at all. Even pretty.

She couldn’t consent. You raped your friend.

These men just keep outing themselves. Jesus Christ what is wrong with men.

DP. I was surprised he decided to confess that.

Rapists have no shame I guess.

BS. Just because she had too much to drink to be able to drive home doesn’t mean she didn’t know exactly what was going on. If you read closer, SHE was the one making sexual comments. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Yes, obviously. But the harpies on this threat will twist the facts to fit their desired narrative ("men are trash!" "men are rapists")

Bro, having sex with someone who cannot consent is the definition of rape. You don’t need to be a harpy to see that as hugely problematic :/ . You are giving men a bad name acting like this.

You're assuming a fact that hasn't been proven, moron. Obviously, it's rape if the person can't consent. The PP who described the story said that the woman could consent, and you can't say otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:I once friend zoned and was friend zoned by a woman but we enjoyed spending time together. One time she came over to watch a movie and she drank too much. She said she couldn't drive home safely. She also started making sexual comments that weren't subtle at all.

Since she was drunk said she could sleep on the couch. She ended up sleeping with me in my bed. She turned out to be one of the most talented lovers I've ever known. The sex was amazing. We did it once around midnight and again after the sun came up in the morning.

But here's the strange thing. I still wasn't very attracted to her. We still saw each other every couple of months for a while but we never did it again. Eventually we each found other people.

I don't understand how I could not be attracted to a woman who I slept with twice in 8 hours, but I wasn't. She said she wanted to do it again but didn't seem upset when I said no. Back to friend zone. She's a nice person and not ugly at all. Even pretty.

She couldn’t consent. You raped your friend.

These men just keep outing themselves. Jesus Christ what is wrong with men.

DP. I was surprised he decided to confess that.

Rapists have no shame I guess.

BS. Just because she had too much to drink to be able to drive home doesn’t mean she didn’t know exactly what was going on. If you read closer, SHE was the one making sexual comments. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Yes, obviously. But the harpies on this threat will twist the facts to fit their desired narrative ("men are trash!" "men are rapists")

Bro, having sex with someone who cannot consent is the definition of rape. You don’t need to be a harpy to see that as hugely problematic :/ . You are giving men a bad name acting like this.

You're assuming a fact that hasn't been proven, moron. Obviously, it's rape if the person can't consent. The PP who described the story said that the woman could consent, and you can't say otherwise.

DP. You are the one who chose to tell us the details of this story. You can get upset all you want, but you are the one who decided to tell us you had sex with a woman who was too drunk to go home that you weren’t attracted to. You are not a good guy in this story.

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Anonymous wrote:I once friend zoned and was friend zoned by a woman but we enjoyed spending time together. One time she came over to watch a movie and she drank too much. She said she couldn't drive home safely. She also started making sexual comments that weren't subtle at all.

Since she was drunk said she could sleep on the couch. She ended up sleeping with me in my bed. She turned out to be one of the most talented lovers I've ever known. The sex was amazing. We did it once around midnight and again after the sun came up in the morning.

But here's the strange thing. I still wasn't very attracted to her. We still saw each other every couple of months for a while but we never did it again. Eventually we each found other people.

I don't understand how I could not be attracted to a woman who I slept with twice in 8 hours, but I wasn't. She said she wanted to do it again but didn't seem upset when I said no. Back to friend zone. She's a nice person and not ugly at all. Even pretty.

She couldn’t consent. You raped your friend.

These men just keep outing themselves. Jesus Christ what is wrong with men.

DP. I was surprised he decided to confess that.

Rapists have no shame I guess.

BS. Just because she had too much to drink to be able to drive home doesn’t mean she didn’t know exactly what was going on. If you read closer, SHE was the one making sexual comments. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Yes, obviously. But the harpies on this threat will twist the facts to fit their desired narrative ("men are trash!" "men are rapists")

Bro, having sex with someone who cannot consent is the definition of rape. You don’t need to be a harpy to see that as hugely problematic :/ . You are giving men a bad name acting like this.

You're assuming a fact that hasn't been proven, moron. Obviously, it's rape if the person can't consent. The PP who described the story said that the woman could consent, and you can't say otherwise.

I’m not assuming anything, I’m going off what you (or “pp” if you want to pretend) wrote. A woman who is wasted cannot consent. If you have sex with someone who can’t or did not give consent, it’s rape. Maybe if you weren’t so giddy to rape someone and brag about it you wouldn’t be getting these responses.

[Anonymous]

A person too tipsy to drive safely can still consent to sex.

So can two people. They aren't raping each other just because they drank too much to drive safely. They're just having drunk sex.

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Anonymous wrote:A person too tipsy to drive safely can still consent to sex.

So can two people. They aren't raping each other just because they drank too much to drive safely. They're just having drunk sex.

Please stop lying. This is incorrect. I seriously hope you don’t have the opportunity to be around any women. You sound like a predator. No need to defend rapists.

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Anonymous wrote:A person too tipsy to drive safely can still consent to sex.

So can two people. They aren't raping each other just because they drank too much to drive safely. They're just having drunk sex.

Please stop lying. This is incorrect. I seriously hope you don’t have the opportunity to be around any women. You sound like a predator. No need to defend rapists.

Really? Can you cite the law that says this?

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Anonymous wrote:A person too tipsy to drive safely can still consent to sex.

So can two people. They aren't raping each other just because they drank too much to drive safely. They're just having drunk sex.

Please stop lying. This is incorrect. I seriously hope you don’t have the opportunity to be around any women. You sound like a predator. No need to defend rapists.

Really? Can you cite the law that says this?

Rapists don’t have Google now?

“Impact of alcohol and other drugs on consent
However, remember that it is not alcohol that causes sexual violence; rather, it is the person perpetrating it. A person cannot give consent if they are under the influence of alcohol or drugs. This includes someone who is passed out.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A person too tipsy to drive safely can still consent to sex.

So can two people. They aren't raping each other just because they drank too much to drive safely. They're just having drunk sex.

Pp said “she drank too much”. He acknowledges that she drank too much, by his own words. You don’t say that about someone in a conscious, consensual encounter. Your use of the word “tipsy” instead of drunk is trying to minimize the situation.

Don’t sleep with people who aren’t able to consent and you’ll be fine. If you sleep with people who aren’t able to consent, you are raping them.

Some of the men on here need to go back to elementary. This is basic 1+1 stuff. Im guessing the issue is that many of you have taken advantage of women in similar situations and don’t like to acknowledge that you’re also a rapist. Doesn’t change the facts though.

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Anonymous wrote:I once friend zoned and was friend zoned by a woman but we enjoyed spending time together. One time she came over to watch a movie and she drank too much. She said she couldn't drive home safely. She also started making sexual comments that weren't subtle at all.

Since she was drunk said she could sleep on the couch. She ended up sleeping with me in my bed. She turned out to be one of the most talented lovers I've ever known. The sex was amazing. We did it once around midnight and again after the sun came up in the morning.

But here's the strange thing. I still wasn't very attracted to her. We still saw each other every couple of months for a while but we never did it again. Eventually we each found other people.

I don't understand how I could not be attracted to a woman who I slept with twice in 8 hours, but I wasn't. She said she wanted to do it again but didn't seem upset when I said no. Back to friend zone. She's a nice person and not ugly at all. Even pretty.

She couldn’t consent. You raped your friend.

These men just keep outing themselves. Jesus Christ what is wrong with men.

DP. I was surprised he decided to confess that.

Rapists have no shame I guess.

BS. Just because she had too much to drink to be able to drive home doesn’t mean she didn’t know exactly what was going on. If you read closer, SHE was the one making sexual comments. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Yes, obviously. But the harpies on this threat will twist the facts to fit their desired narrative ("men are trash!" "men are rapists")

Bro, having sex with someone who cannot consent is the definition of rape. You don’t need to be a harpy to see that as hugely problematic :/ . You are giving men a bad name acting like this.

Nah. You're nuts. The vast majority of us understand that plenty of people are very cautious about driving after drinking (or say they are because they want to sleep over) and still very much able to consent. In this case, the woman was offered the couch, asked to sleep in the bed with him, and used her words to say she wanted sex 3x.

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[Anonymous]

To the crazies who equate a woman "had too much to drink to drive safely" with a woman "had too much to drink to consent to sex (or ask for sex)," I have a couple of questions:

1. Did the woman rape the guy if he also had too much to drink to drive safely?

2. If a guy who had too much to drink punches someone in the face (another guy at a bar, a police officer, or his wife who was getting on his nerves), would you say he shouldn't be held responsible for throwing the punch because he couldn't have meant to do it?

Rape is a real problem. Consensual safe sex by adults who drink usually isn't.