What’s the point of redshirting when it cancels out the pride factor?

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Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

I don't think OP was thinking about your kid when they posted.

DCUMs anti-redshirters are anti-social and hyper-competitive. There is absolutely no question in my mind that OP is thinking about kids like PPs. I’ve watched the casual cruelty of DCUM anti-redshirters too many times over the years. They delight in bullying children.

Also, I didn’t redshirt, although that should not matter.

Literally nobody cares about some special needs child being held back a year.

Nobody.

My kid had no diagnosis when we made the decision to hold him back. He was diagnosed with autism several years later. So was the decision not ok at first and then it became acceptable? Is it only acceptable if I prove his diagnosis?

If you don’t see it before age 3 then it’s not autism. Get another opinion.

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DCUM anti-redshirters are so uneducated and dim. It’s hilarious to watch them in action.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We did redshirt, so that my son has every single advantage he can get. It may not be fair, but you know what else is fair? Life. One year of physical and brain development makes a difference. While his classmates barely do single digit addition his teacher gives him three digit addition worksheets. Since he’s a head above the other kids nobody dares to bully him and he’s bossing the other kids around.

Some sour grape moms with tiny underdeveloped kids make some snide remarks at sports events, but who cares. My son is a star and they are just envious.

The head start is super important. If this is something that matters to you, redshirt your kid. If you didn’t and missed the train, too bad. Stop whining and move on. Do better next time, lol.

Amazing trolling. Best way to deal with the crazy antiredshirter. Well done.

+1

That was brilliant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

I don't think OP was thinking about your kid when they posted.

DCUMs anti-redshirters are anti-social and hyper-competitive. There is absolutely no question in my mind that OP is thinking about kids like PPs. I’ve watched the casual cruelty of DCUM anti-redshirters too many times over the years. They delight in bullying children.

Also, I didn’t redshirt, although that should not matter.

Literally nobody cares about some special needs child being held back a year.

Nobody.

My kid had no diagnosis when we made the decision to hold him back. He was diagnosed with autism several years later. So was the decision not ok at first and then it became acceptable? Is it only acceptable if I prove his diagnosis?

If you don’t see it before age 3 then it’s not autism. Get another opinion.

🤣🤣

DCUM anti-redshirters are so uneducated and dim. It’s hilarious to watch them in action.

You should read the original. DSM for. ASD. The one they’re discussing bringing back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

I don't think OP was thinking about your kid when they posted.

DCUMs anti-redshirters are anti-social and hyper-competitive. There is absolutely no question in my mind that OP is thinking about kids like PPs. I’ve watched the casual cruelty of DCUM anti-redshirters too many times over the years. They delight in bullying children.

Also, I didn’t redshirt, although that should not matter.

Literally nobody cares about some special needs child being held back a year.

Nobody.

My kid had no diagnosis when we made the decision to hold him back. He was diagnosed with autism several years later. So was the decision not ok at first and then it became acceptable? Is it only acceptable if I prove his diagnosis?

If you don’t see it before age 3 then it’s not autism. Get another opinion.

🤣🤣

DCUM anti-redshirters are so uneducated and dim. It’s hilarious to watch them in action.

You should read the original. DSM for. ASD. The one they’re discussing bringing back.

The current DSM is the 5th version. The original was published in 1952. Are you suggesting that we should make diagnostic and red shirting decisions based on our knowledge of developmental disabilities in 1952? No one is suggesting bringing that back. Or are you just talking out of your a$$?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

I don't think OP was thinking about your kid when they posted.

DCUMs anti-redshirters are anti-social and hyper-competitive. There is absolutely no question in my mind that OP is thinking about kids like PPs. I’ve watched the casual cruelty of DCUM anti-redshirters too many times over the years. They delight in bullying children.

Also, I didn’t redshirt, although that should not matter.

Literally nobody cares about some special needs child being held back a year.

Nobody.

My kid had no diagnosis when we made the decision to hold him back. He was diagnosed with autism several years later. So was the decision not ok at first and then it became acceptable? Is it only acceptable if I prove his diagnosis?

If you don’t see it before age 3 then it’s not autism. Get another opinion.

🤣🤣

DCUM anti-redshirters are so uneducated and dim. It’s hilarious to watch them in action.

You should read the original. DSM for. ASD. The one they’re discussing bringing back.

The current DSM is the 5th version. The original was published in 1952. Are you suggesting that we should make diagnostic and red shirting decisions based on our knowledge of developmental disabilities in 1952? No one is suggesting bringing that back. Or are you just talking out of your a$$?

That PP is dim, and almost certainly doesn’t understand the concept of DSM versions. Your post is above her comprehension.

[Anonymous]

My kids has plenty of pride from being the fastest, most athletic and one of the most popular kids in his grade. There are tons of other redshirted kids in his grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

I don't think OP was thinking about your kid when they posted.

DCUMs anti-redshirters are anti-social and hyper-competitive. There is absolutely no question in my mind that OP is thinking about kids like PPs. I’ve watched the casual cruelty of DCUM anti-redshirters too many times over the years. They delight in bullying children.

Also, I didn’t redshirt, although that should not matter.

Literally nobody cares about some special needs child being held back a year.

Nobody.

My kid had no diagnosis when we made the decision to hold him back. He was diagnosed with autism several years later. So was the decision not ok at first and then it became acceptable? Is it only acceptable if I prove his diagnosis?

If you don’t see it before age 3 then it’s not autism. Get another opinion.

🤣🤣

DCUM anti-redshirters are so uneducated and dim. It’s hilarious to watch them in action.

You should read the original. DSM for. ASD. The one they’re discussing bringing back.

After you learn how to type, you should mention what your consider the "original" version and who "they" are they are who are discussing bringing it back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand that kids who are older generally do better in school and end up with better jobs. But the whole point of getting good grades and having a good job is to have something to be proud of, and outperforming kids a year younger than you is nothing to be proud of.

No, the point of having a good job is to be able to afford the necessities of life, such as rent and food. How do you not see that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids has plenty of pride from being the fastest, most athletic and one of the most popular kids in his grade. There are tons of other redshirted kids in his grade.

Why couldn't they be all those things and go to school on time? If they are so perfect and great, why did you need to hold them back? Not very smart?

[Anonymous]

Most of the kids being held back are not ASD or have SN. And, if they are, more reason to send them on time if you refuse to do private services and help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

I don't think OP was thinking about your kid when they posted.

DCUMs anti-redshirters are anti-social and hyper-competitive. There is absolutely no question in my mind that OP is thinking about kids like PPs. I’ve watched the casual cruelty of DCUM anti-redshirters too many times over the years. They delight in bullying children.

Also, I didn’t redshirt, although that should not matter.

Literally nobody cares about some special needs child being held back a year.

Nobody.

My kid had no diagnosis when we made the decision to hold him back. He was diagnosed with autism several years later. So was the decision not ok at first and then it became acceptable? Is it only acceptable if I prove his diagnosis?

If you don’t see it before age 3 then it’s not autism. Get another opinion.

🤣🤣

DCUM anti-redshirters are so uneducated and dim. It’s hilarious to watch them in action.

You should read the original. DSM for. ASD. The one they’re discussing bringing back.

The current DSM is the 5th version. The original was published in 1952. Are you suggesting that we should make diagnostic and red shirting decisions based on our knowledge of developmental disabilities in 1952? No one is suggesting bringing that back. Or are you just talking out of your a$$?

I’m talking about the first DSM to include ASD as a diagnosis. That would be the DSM III, and yes there are talks about bringing the definition back to DSM III/ DSM IV. That included a much younger diagnostic age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People think redshirting is an easy way to give your kid an advantage. But there is no long term advantage and usually only lasts through younger years when they might be less squirmy in class. As they get older some of the redshirted kids are teased as dumb and held back.

Sure, the kid failing algebra will tease as dumb the kid taking AP Calculus who is towering one head over him.

First, that’s not “teasing”, it’s just embarrassing oneself. Second there’s a high chance the “teaser” will be punched and shoved the next second. Third, this is straight up bullying that likely will get your kid expelled or worse.

You realize you can have Freshman to Seniors in any math class and yea, kids wonder or know who the smart ones are, or not. Holding your kid back does not give them a better IQ. Instead of holding back, work with them, get them tutors, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People think redshirting is an easy way to give your kid an advantage. But there is no long term advantage and usually only lasts through younger years when they might be less squirmy in class. As they get older some of the redshirted kids are teased as dumb and held back.

Sure, the kid failing algebra will tease as dumb the kid taking AP Calculus who is towering one head over him.

First, that’s not “teasing”, it’s just embarrassing oneself. Second there’s a high chance the “teaser” will be punched and shoved the next second. Third, this is straight up bullying that likely will get your kid expelled or worse.

Kids aren't expelled for teasing. My freshman is in a class with mostly juniors and seniors. There was lots of bullying. The teacher and school didn't care. And, if your kid is on the slow track and you held them back, they aren't doing better. If your kid is appropiate for the grade, or even younger and on a fast track, yup, they are smarter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our kid had adhd and dyslexia. You’re da*n right we red-shirted. They had absolutely no advantage being older in the grade. Struggle, struggle, struggle. But thanks for the derision!

I don't think OP was thinking about your kid when they posted.

DCUMs anti-redshirters are anti-social and hyper-competitive. There is absolutely no question in my mind that OP is thinking about kids like PPs. I’ve watched the casual cruelty of DCUM anti-redshirters too many times over the years. They delight in bullying children.

Also, I didn’t redshirt, although that should not matter.

Literally nobody cares about some special needs child being held back a year.

Nobody.

My kid had no diagnosis when we made the decision to hold him back. He was diagnosed with autism several years later. So was the decision not ok at first and then it became acceptable? Is it only acceptable if I prove his diagnosis?

If you don’t see it before age 3 then it’s not autism. Get another opinion.

🤣🤣

DCUM anti-redshirters are so uneducated and dim. It’s hilarious to watch them in action.

You should read the original. DSM for. ASD. The one they’re discussing bringing back.

I did, I used to use it. The DSM-III listed ASD under PDD. Moving away from the PDD umbrella killed the diagnostic standards of ASD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People think redshirting is an easy way to give your kid an advantage. But there is no long term advantage and usually only lasts through younger years when they might be less squirmy in class. As they get older some of the redshirted kids are teased as dumb and held back.

Sure, the kid failing algebra will tease as dumb the kid taking AP Calculus who is towering one head over him.

First, that’s not “teasing”, it’s just embarrassing oneself. Second there’s a high chance the “teaser” will be punched and shoved the next second. Third, this is straight up bullying that likely will get your kid expelled or worse.

You realize you can have Freshman to Seniors in any math class and yea, kids wonder or know who the smart ones are, or not. Holding your kid back does not give them a better IQ. Instead of holding back, work with them, get them tutors, etc.

Holding kids back might give them a better IQ if you consider the learning aspect of it, which can be optimized through teaching, but also by matching the learned content with the appropriate developmental age. Some kids get there later, it doesn’t mean they are low IQ, just that they are not ready to be introduced to those concepts yet, or don’t have the executive function to participate in learning etc.

The point of redshirting is to optimize learning, education, social development etc. so that at the end of high school the teen is capable of transitioning to adult life, through delaying the start of formal education.

The job of the parent is to figure out what’s best and appropriate for the child, most recognize easily the lever of maturity and appropriate age for schooling. It sounds like you didn’t pay enough attention to your child or didn’t act on delaying the school enrollment even if it seems advisable in retrospect. Maybe you made a mistake not holding the kid back, but there’s no perfect parenting recipe and there’s no knowing what the alternate outcome would be.