UNC or UVA out of state

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chapel Hill is the better school.

No dog in this race, but no it’s not. UNC is relatively easy to get admitted In state btw.

A whole bunch of tech folks turned down Va for NC bc UNC is so much better. Was just talking to a top tech person who believes NC will have the largest per state economy on the east coast in their lifetime.

? what’s the point of VT and all these data centers

[Anonymous]

I’d tip my hat to UVA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this a joke? UNC.

This. Chapel Hill is a fantastic school (but UVA is also great, not a wrong choice can be made IMO). Schools do have different vibes and it depends on your particular DC which one is right for them.

There was a recent thread I think on the vibe differences if you do a search. I’m an OOS Tar Heel, who went to UVA grad so in my data point of 1 I think UVA is preppier, more Greek focused, a bit snobbier with richer kids. Chapel Hill is more laid back, it’s a liberal area within moderately conservative state where most people of different view points get a long (vs an us vs them atmosphere) and the school is much more socio economically diverse (which for many kids it’s their first experience with that). But Charlottesville is also lovely.

It is MUCH harder to get into Carolina OOS than UVA OOS. That data is all public, not looking for a debate.

It’s harder to get in because UNC (by law) enrolls 18% OOS vs. 32% OOS UVA.

+1. OOS yield also slightly higher at UVA, though not a huge difference (23% vs 18%).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YCBC:

Most difficult public admissions this year in their experience:

7 Michigan
6-4 (tie) Georgia Tech, Texas, Berkeley
3 UVA
2 UCLA
1 UNC

Also, UCLA and UNC were only a hair different.

And?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a joke? UNC.

This. Chapel Hill is a fantastic school (but UVA is also great, not a wrong choice can be made IMO). Schools do have different vibes and it depends on your particular DC which one is right for them.

There was a recent thread I think on the vibe differences if you do a search. I’m an OOS Tar Heel, who went to UVA grad so in my data point of 1 I think UVA is preppier, more Greek focused, a bit snobbier with richer kids. Chapel Hill is more laid back, it’s a liberal area within moderately conservative state where most people of different view points get a long (vs an us vs them atmosphere) and the school is much more socio economically diverse (which for many kids it’s their first experience with that). But Charlottesville is also lovely.

It is MUCH harder to get into Carolina OOS than UVA OOS. That data is all public, not looking for a debate.

It’s harder to get in because UNC (by law) enrolls 18% OOS vs. 32% OOS UVA.

yes and unfortunately that same statistic makes the UNC student body have much lower stats and ability than the UVA student body, which is why UVA does better in recruiting, grad/prof placement...

Please post your citation/references for these "stats". I tried myself to find what you claim and cannot find it. So either you're making it up or it's hidden online. Thanks.

DP but you can see it a bit on the CDS for both schools. SAT percentiles are nearly identical (1400-1530 at UNC vs 1410-1520 at UVA, median 1470 for both) but ACT, which is much more common in NC and is the much more reported score at UNC, is somewhat lower (28-34 at UNC vs 32-35 at UVA, 31 vs 33 median).

It’s not a huge difference—I would disagree with the PP’s characterization of “much lower” stats—but there is probably something there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:[mastodon]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a joke? UNC.

This. Chapel Hill is a fantastic school (but UVA is also great, not a wrong choice can be made IMO). Schools do have different vibes and it depends on your particular DC which one is right for them.

There was a recent thread I think on the vibe differences if you do a search. I’m an OOS Tar Heel, who went to UVA grad so in my data point of 1 I think UVA is preppier, more Greek focused, a bit snobbier with richer kids. Chapel Hill is more laid back, it’s a liberal area within moderately conservative state where most people of different view points get a long (vs an us vs them atmosphere) and the school is much more socio economically diverse (which for many kids it’s their first experience with that). But Charlottesville is also lovely.

It is MUCH harder to get into Carolina OOS than UVA OOS. That data is all public, not looking for a debate.

It’s harder to get in because UNC (by law) enrolls 18% OOS vs. 32% OOS UVA.

yes and unfortunately that same statistic makes the UNC student body have much lower stats and ability than the UVA student body, which is why UVA does better in recruiting, grad/prof placement...

Please post your citation/references for these "stats". I tried myself to find what you claim and cannot find it. So either you're making it up or it's hidden online. Thanks.

DP but you can see it a bit on the CDS for both schools. SAT percentiles are nearly identical (1400-1530 at UNC vs 1410-1520 at UVA, median 1470 for both) but ACT, which is much more common in NC and is the much more reported score at UNC, is somewhat lower (28-34 at UNC vs 32-35 at UVA, 31 vs 33 median).

It’s not a huge difference—I would disagree with the PP’s characterization of “much lower” stats—but there is probably something there.

So yeah, just admit they made it up, WHICH THEY DID. Why is it so hard for people to be truthful?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[mastodon]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a joke? UNC.

This. Chapel Hill is a fantastic school (but UVA is also great, not a wrong choice can be made IMO). Schools do have different vibes and it depends on your particular DC which one is right for them.

There was a recent thread I think on the vibe differences if you do a search. I’m an OOS Tar Heel, who went to UVA grad so in my data point of 1 I think UVA is preppier, more Greek focused, a bit snobbier with richer kids. Chapel Hill is more laid back, it’s a liberal area within moderately conservative state where most people of different view points get a long (vs an us vs them atmosphere) and the school is much more socio economically diverse (which for many kids it’s their first experience with that). But Charlottesville is also lovely.

It is MUCH harder to get into Carolina OOS than UVA OOS. That data is all public, not looking for a debate.

It’s harder to get in because UNC (by law) enrolls 18% OOS vs. 32% OOS UVA.

yes and unfortunately that same statistic makes the UNC student body have much lower stats and ability than the UVA student body, which is why UVA does better in recruiting, grad/prof placement...

Please post your citation/references for these "stats". I tried myself to find what you claim and cannot find it. So either you're making it up or it's hidden online. Thanks.

DP but you can see it a bit on the CDS for both schools. SAT percentiles are nearly identical (1400-1530 at UNC vs 1410-1520 at UVA, median 1470 for both) but ACT, which is much more common in NC and is the much more reported score at UNC, is somewhat lower (28-34 at UNC vs 32-35 at UVA, 31 vs 33 median).

It’s not a huge difference—I would disagree with the PP’s characterization of “much lower” stats—but there is probably something there.

So yeah, just admit they made it up, WHICH THEY DID. Why is it so hard for people to be truthful?

I’m not the PP so I don’t have to admit anything.

You asked for stats, I gave you stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YCBC:

Most difficult public admissions this year in their experience:

7 Michigan
6-4 (tie) Georgia Tech, Texas, Berkeley
3 UVA
2 UCLA
1 UNC

Also, UCLA and UNC were only a hair different.

The in-state kids at UNC are completely different than the in-state kids at UCLA. Huge difference in the cohort for out of state kids.

What does that even mean? Are California kids, by virtue of being a California resident, automatically “better” and smarter? How? What is the HUGE difference? Back up your claim and actually explain what that is supposed to mean bc that is just huge BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chapel Hill is the better school.

No dog in this race, but no it’s not. UNC is relatively easy to get admitted In state btw.

No dog in this race either, but no it's isn't relatively easy at all in state. And before you even go there, instate kids in NC are not dumb.

Well... it was 41% acceptance rate in-state last year. And the median test scores are much lower for in state.

15,337 Applied In-state
6,312 were accepted.
41% Acceptance rate.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know what it is about UNC but in every thread there are the same accusations that kids from NC are dumb and by virtue the school isn’t good because they accept such a large number of in state kids. And that because Michigan and UVA accept so many OOS students they’re better schools?

The same arguments are never made re UT?I don’t know why UNC triggers some people, but it definitely does. Just like the hyper UVA boosters who go ballistic any time you say anything negative re UVA. These posters just are making noise.

I would be thrilled to have one of my kids go to either school. Congrats OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YCBC:

Most difficult public admissions this year in their experience:

7 Michigan
6-4 (tie) Georgia Tech, Texas, Berkeley
3 UVA
2 UCLA
1 UNC

Also, UCLA and UNC were only a hair different.

And?

lol who's experience. This is worthless without raw numbers. In State vs. OOS. For instance also, most schools also do it by major. Say you are out of state and want to apply for engineering to GTech, well this year the acceptance rate was 6% overall out of state was 9% acceptance overall for all majors. Breakdown that UNC ranking with raw numbers please. They usually admit over 40% in state

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YCBC:

Most difficult public admissions this year in their experience:

7 Michigan
6-4 (tie) Georgia Tech, Texas, Berkeley
3 UVA
2 UCLA
1 UNC

Also, UCLA and UNC were only a hair different.

And?

lol who's experience. This is worthless without raw numbers. In State vs. OOS. For instance also, most schools also do it by major. Say you are out of state and want to apply for engineering to GTech, well this year the acceptance rate was 6% overall out of state was 9% acceptance overall for all majors. Breakdown that UNC ranking with raw numbers please. They usually admit over 40% in state

Ok but why does this matter in terms of which school OP's dc should choose?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YCBC:

Most difficult public admissions this year in their experience:

7 Michigan
6-4 (tie) Georgia Tech, Texas, Berkeley
3 UVA
2 UCLA
1 UNC

Also, UCLA and UNC were only a hair different.

The in-state kids at UNC are completely different than the in-state kids at UCLA. Huge difference in the cohort for out of state kids.

What does that even mean? Are California kids, by virtue of being a California resident, automatically “better” and smarter? How? What is the HUGE difference? Back up your claim and actually explain what that is supposed to mean bc that is just huge BS.

Where does it say that different means better or worse?

[Anonymous]

OP: Which school is your DC leaning toward?

[Anonymous]

Go to UVA otherwise your in Duke’s shadow.