UNC or UVA out of state

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a joke? UNC.

This. Chapel Hill is a fantastic school (but UVA is also great, not a wrong choice can be made IMO). Schools do have different vibes and it depends on your particular DC which one is right for them.

There was a recent thread I think on the vibe differences if you do a search. I’m an OOS Tar Heel, who went to UVA grad so in my data point of 1 I think UVA is preppier, more Greek focused, a bit snobbier with richer kids. Chapel Hill is more laid back, it’s a liberal area within moderately conservative state where most people of different view points get a long (vs an us vs them atmosphere) and the school is much more socio economically diverse (which for many kids it’s their first experience with that). But Charlottesville is also lovely.

It is MUCH harder to get into Carolina OOS than UVA OOS. That data is all public, not looking for a debate.

It’s harder to get in because UNC (by law) enrolls 18% OOS vs. 32% OOS UVA.

yes and unfortunately that same statistic makes the UNC student body have much lower stats and ability than the UVA student body, which is why UVA does better in recruiting, grad/prof placement...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a joke? UNC.

This. Chapel Hill is a fantastic school (but UVA is also great, not a wrong choice can be made IMO). Schools do have different vibes and it depends on your particular DC which one is right for them.

There was a recent thread I think on the vibe differences if you do a search. I’m an OOS Tar Heel, who went to UVA grad so in my data point of 1 I think UVA is preppier, more Greek focused, a bit snobbier with richer kids. Chapel Hill is more laid back, it’s a liberal area within moderately conservative state where most people of different view points get a long (vs an us vs them atmosphere) and the school is much more socio economically diverse (which for many kids it’s their first experience with that). But Charlottesville is also lovely.

It is MUCH harder to get into Carolina OOS than UVA OOS. That data is all public, not looking for a debate.

It’s harder to get in because UNC (by law) enrolls 18% OOS vs. 32% OOS UVA.

yes and unfortunately that same statistic makes the UNC student body have much lower stats and ability than the UVA student body, which is why UVA does better in recruiting, grad/prof placement...

I know this is said, my kid isn’t at either so not advocating any which way. Is VA really that much different? The research triangle and Charlotte are very high achieving. Is the VA high achieving area that much larger in comparison? Both obviously have lower standard areas.

[Anonymous]

Listen to the YCBK podcast from this week about OOS admission trends at these 2 schools.

See the other post “is this year harder” for more information

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chapel Hill is the better school.

No dog in this race, but no it’s not. UNC is relatively easy to get admitted In state btw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chapel Hill is the better school.

No dog in this race, but no it’s not. UNC is relatively easy to get admitted In state btw.

No dog in this race either, but no it's isn't relatively easy at all in state. And before you even go there, instate kids in NC are not dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this a joke? UNC.

This. Chapel Hill is a fantastic school (but UVA is also great, not a wrong choice can be made IMO). Schools do have different vibes and it depends on your particular DC which one is right for them.

There was a recent thread I think on the vibe differences if you do a search. I’m an OOS Tar Heel, who went to UVA grad so in my data point of 1 I think UVA is preppier, more Greek focused, a bit snobbier with richer kids. Chapel Hill is more laid back, it’s a liberal area within moderately conservative state where most people of different view points get a long (vs an us vs them atmosphere) and the school is much more socio economically diverse (which for many kids it’s their first experience with that). But Charlottesville is also lovely.

It is MUCH harder to get into Carolina OOS than UVA OOS. That data is all public, not looking for a debate.

It’s harder to get in because UNC (by law) enrolls 18% OOS vs. 32% OOS UVA.

yes and unfortunately that same statistic makes the UNC student body have much lower stats and ability than the UVA student body, which is why UVA does better in recruiting, grad/prof placement...

Please post your citation/references for these "stats". I tried myself to find what you claim and cannot find it. So either you're making it up or it's hidden online. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen to the YCBK podcast from this week about OOS admission trends at these 2 schools.

See the other post “is this year harder” for more information

This is worthless information.

[Anonymous]

YCBC:

Most difficult public admissions this year in their experience:

7 Michigan
6-4 (tie) Georgia Tech, Texas, Berkeley
3 UVA
2 UCLA
1 UNC

Also, UCLA and UNC were only a hair different.

[Anonymous]

Chapel Hill is a much better campus/town. Shame on UVA/Charlottesville for wasting such a great start and becoming what it has. 29 is a giant strip mall. The campus is rambling and disorganized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chapel Hill is the better school.

No dog in this race, but no it’s not. UNC is relatively easy to get admitted In state btw.

A whole bunch of tech folks turned down Va for NC bc UNC is so much better. Was just talking to a top tech person who believes NC will have the largest per state economy on the east coast in their lifetime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:YCBC:

Most difficult public admissions this year in their experience:

7 Michigan
6-4 (tie) Georgia Tech, Texas, Berkeley
3 UVA
2 UCLA
1 UNC

Also, UCLA and UNC were only a hair different.

The in-state kids at UNC are completely different than the in-state kids at UCLA. Huge difference in the cohort for out of state kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YCBC:

Most difficult public admissions this year in their experience:

7 Michigan
6-4 (tie) Georgia Tech, Texas, Berkeley
3 UVA
2 UCLA
1 UNC

Also, UCLA and UNC were only a hair different.

The in-state kids at UNC are completely different than the in-state kids at UCLA. Huge difference in the cohort for out of state kids.

what do you mean by this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chapel Hill is a much better campus/town. Shame on UVA/Charlottesville for wasting such a great start and becoming what it has. 29 is a giant strip mall. The campus is rambling and disorganized.

Campus is beautiful. To each their own.

[Anonymous]

UNC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:YCBC:

Most difficult public admissions this year in their experience:

7 Michigan
6-4 (tie) Georgia Tech, Texas, Berkeley
3 UVA
2 UCLA
1 UNC

Also, UCLA and UNC were only a hair different.

The in-state kids at UNC are completely different than the in-state kids at UCLA. Huge difference in the cohort for out of state kids.

I'm a UNC instate alum and I feel the need to say this at every UNC post, but the instate kids range from NMSF/ valedictorians to A/B students who ranked maybe in the top 15 percent at their school and took some APs. My graduating class sent something like 50 kids my year, from the top down.

They range. The OOS kids tend to be at the top of the range, but some instate kids are as well. And then you have some kids are not brilliant but are hard workers, and some kid who are brilliant but have uneven GPAs. (These two groups probably don't exist at T10 schools).