GA1 vs ECNL RL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never forget the boys always come first at every club

Not at Arlington.

They sacrificed for the girls.

+1 boys had to leave for better competition/ league in MLSNext. Boys ECNL is pitiful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 2012 and 2013 Alexandria teams could be strong. They have mostly stayed together, have been playing up, and 2012 performed well at Jeff cup against other ECNL teams. If they are willing to cut a few and pick up a few NL players who don’t get much time or top RL players, then they’ll contend. Maybe not SYC or NVA, but more than VRSC or McLean, and more than many RL teams.

You’re delusional. The Rankings app has the first 2013 Alexandria team ranked outside the top 700 nationally. Loudoun’s top team (next year’s NVA GA team) is 52, SYC’s is 73, and VRSC is 142. All of those teams are staying together for GA next year. McLean’s first team went to Union, but even their second team is 301. Alexandria’s first 2013 team didn’t even go to Jeff Cup.

Alexandria’s first 2012 team played three games at Jeff Cup, all against teams outside the app’s top 100, and they won once and drew twice.

The app’s algorithm is wrong, but it’s not THAT wrong.

That was The Alexandria Warrior. There is no convincing her/him/them by using facts.

If TAW was arguing that Alexandria 2012 and 2013 won’t be at the bottom of the GA table next year, I could understand, as the TSJFC are even worse than those Alexandria teams, but to suggest they will be competitive with the top teams from these other DMV clubs is just nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What would you advise a 2010 or 11 who wants to play in college in this scenario (move to GA or stay RL)?

What does anyone expect the 2010 and 2011 GA teams will look like in terms of best to worst?

For 2010s, the top RL teams in the area are every bit as good as the top area GA teams, and are notably better than the average GA teams. 2010 Arlington RL can beat every local GA team, and is notably stronger than 2010 SYC (since the top 2010 SYC players are rostered on Union).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 2012 and 2013 Alexandria teams could be strong. They have mostly stayed together, have been playing up, and 2012 performed well at Jeff cup against other ECNL teams. If they are willing to cut a few and pick up a few NL players who don’t get much time or top RL players, then they’ll contend. Maybe not SYC or NVA, but more than VRSC or McLean, and more than many RL teams.

You’re delusional. The Rankings app has the first 2013 Alexandria team ranked outside the top 700 nationally. Loudoun’s top team (next year’s NVA GA team) is 52, SYC’s is 73, and VRSC is 142. All of those teams are staying together for GA next year. McLean’s first team went to Union, but even their second team is 301. Alexandria’s first 2013 team didn’t even go to Jeff Cup.

Alexandria’s first 2012 team played three games at Jeff Cup, all against teams outside the app’s top 100, and they won once and drew twice.

The app’s algorithm is wrong, but it’s not THAT wrong.

That was The Alexandria Warrior. There is no convincing her/him/them by using facts.

If TAW was arguing that Alexandria 2012 and 2013 won’t be at the bottom of the GA table next year, I could understand, as the TSJFC are even worse than those Alexandria teams, but to suggest they will be competitive with the top teams from these other DMV clubs is just nuts.

Let’s check back in a year, really, and see who was correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would you advise a 2010 or 11 who wants to play in college in this scenario (move to GA or stay RL)?

What does anyone expect the 2010 and 2011 GA teams will look like in terms of best to worst?

For 2010s, the top RL teams in the area are every bit as good as the top area GA teams, and are notably better than the average GA teams. 2010 Arlington RL can beat every local GA team, and is notably stronger than 2010 SYC (since the top 2010 SYC players are rostered on Union).

But for a 2010, if you want to play in college, GA is still a better place to be, especially if you're on a strong GA team. The GA and ECNL showcases that don't even allow RL or local leagues play in them are where coaches go to recruit. I mean, sure, you can get into college for soccer playing RL but you're going to have to put in 10x more work at LEAST.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would you advise a 2010 or 11 who wants to play in college in this scenario (move to GA or stay RL)?

What does anyone expect the 2010 and 2011 GA teams will look like in terms of best to worst?

For 2010s, the top RL teams in the area are every bit as good as the top area GA teams, and are notably better than the average GA teams. 2010 Arlington RL can beat every local GA team, and is notably stronger than 2010 SYC (since the top 2010 SYC players are rostered on Union).

But for a 2010, if you want to play in college, GA is still a better place to be, especially if you're on a strong GA team. The GA and ECNL showcases that don't even allow RL or local leagues play in them are where coaches go to recruit. I mean, sure, you can get into college for soccer playing RL but you're going to have to put in 10x more work at LEAST.

That is correct. Go where you wanted, seek good coaching. Don’t settle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would you advise a 2010 or 11 who wants to play in college in this scenario (move to GA or stay RL)?

What does anyone expect the 2010 and 2011 GA teams will look like in terms of best to worst?

For 2010s, the top RL teams in the area are every bit as good as the top area GA teams, and are notably better than the average GA teams. 2010 Arlington RL can beat every local GA team, and is notably stronger than 2010 SYC (since the top 2010 SYC players are rostered on Union).

For the current season, the only local GA teams are VRSC, TSJFC, and SYC. TSJFC is terrible because all of the old 2010 FCV GA players left the club. A few followed CC to VRSC and the rest scattered. I agree that the top 2010s who grew up at SYC had already settled at Union. But, if you look at this year’s results, VRSC and SYC GA teams are comparable to Vienna and Arlington’s RL teams, with Loudoun’s RL team a bit behind them. The remaining DMV RL teams are clearly behind this group, this year.

Going forward, I would expect this group to remain comparable. The question for me is where do the 2010 NVA players go? If they stay with NVA at GA, then that team will be better than every other GA and RL in the area by a mile, but my guess is that many of them are scattering to other ECNL teams. MYS and Alex will remain where they are, which is well behind that group.

This picture is similar at 2011, except that VRSC and SYC are better than every local RL team, with MYS and Arlington close and Stafford and GFR trailing a bit further. Same question about NVA, are they staying together at NVA GA’s club or scattering to other ECNL clubs? My guess is that the better players on those RL teams will migrate to a GA club because of the better college recruiting exposure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would you advise a 2010 or 11 who wants to play in college in this scenario (move to GA or stay RL)?

What does anyone expect the 2010 and 2011 GA teams will look like in terms of best to worst?

For 2010s, the top RL teams in the area are every bit as good as the top area GA teams, and are notably better than the average GA teams. 2010 Arlington RL can beat every local GA team, and is notably stronger than 2010 SYC (since the top 2010 SYC players are rostered on Union).

For the current season, the only local GA teams are VRSC, TSJFC, and SYC. TSJFC is terrible because all of the old 2010 FCV GA players left the club. A few followed CC to VRSC and the rest scattered. I agree that the top 2010s who grew up at SYC had already settled at Union. But, if you look at this year’s results, VRSC and SYC GA teams are comparable to Vienna and Arlington’s RL teams, with Loudoun’s RL team a bit behind them. The remaining DMV RL teams are clearly behind this group, this year.

Going forward, I would expect this group to remain comparable. The question for me is where do the 2010 NVA players go? If they stay with NVA at GA, then that team will be better than every other GA and RL in the area by a mile, but my guess is that many of them are scattering to other ECNL teams. MYS and Alex will remain where they are, which is well behind that group.

This picture is similar at 2011, except that VRSC and SYC are better than every local RL team, with MYS and Arlington close and Stafford and GFR trailing a bit further. Same question about NVA, are they staying together at NVA GA’s club or scattering to other ECNL clubs? My guess is that the better players on those RL teams will migrate to a GA club because of the better college recruiting exposure.

NVA 2010s lost every player. Like half went to ECNL, the other half to VRSC. They are going to be worse than Loudoun next year. I would add GFR and VSA to 2010 RL teams that are comparable to mid GA teams, better than Loudoun. VRSC should be much better next year and should easily beat Loudoun and NVA.

[Anonymous]

Agreed with poster above. Also to note, that the competition for RL teams will not be what it was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would you advise a 2010 or 11 who wants to play in college in this scenario (move to GA or stay RL)?

What does anyone expect the 2010 and 2011 GA teams will look like in terms of best to worst?

For 2010s, the top RL teams in the area are every bit as good as the top area GA teams, and are notably better than the average GA teams. 2010 Arlington RL can beat every local GA team, and is notably stronger than 2010 SYC (since the top 2010 SYC players are rostered on Union).

For the current season, the only local GA teams are VRSC, TSJFC, and SYC. TSJFC is terrible because all of the old 2010 FCV GA players left the club. A few followed CC to VRSC and the rest scattered. I agree that the top 2010s who grew up at SYC had already settled at Union. But, if you look at this year’s results, VRSC and SYC GA teams are comparable to Vienna and Arlington’s RL teams, with Loudoun’s RL team a bit behind them. The remaining DMV RL teams are clearly behind this group, this year.

Going forward, I would expect this group to remain comparable. The question for me is where do the 2010 NVA players go? If they stay with NVA at GA, then that team will be better than every other GA and RL in the area by a mile, but my guess is that many of them are scattering to other ECNL teams. MYS and Alex will remain where they are, which is well behind that group.

This picture is similar at 2011, except that VRSC and SYC are better than every local RL team, with MYS and Arlington close and Stafford and GFR trailing a bit further. Same question about NVA, are they staying together at NVA GA’s club or scattering to other ECNL clubs? My guess is that the better players on those RL teams will migrate to a GA club because of the better college recruiting exposure.

NVA 2010s lost every player. Like half went to ECNL, the other half to VRSC. They are going to be worse than Loudoun next year. I would add GFR and VSA to 2010 RL teams that are comparable to mid GA teams, better than Loudoun. VRSC should be much better next year and should easily beat Loudoun and NVA.

How are the remaining ECNL teams able to absorb all these players? Do those teams lose the same number they are absorbing or are their roster sizes growing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GA top team vs ECNL RL top team for a kid that will never get a look from her club’s ECNL team?

Sorry, not buying this as a sincere question. If it is truly a top GA team then your ECNL RL girl isn't making that top GA team if she isn't getting a snif from her ECNL team. My daughter plays on a top GA team and every girl on there would make an ENCL team.

OP here: “Top” meaning GA1, not GA2

[Anonymous]

Arlington changed their roster over with NVA players. VDA and Union added more pieces to get to over 20 roster spots. Nothing crazy yet but it’s the norm to grow above 18 at u-16 and forward

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What would you advise a 2010 or 11 who wants to play in college in this scenario (move to GA or stay RL)?

What does anyone expect the 2010 and 2011 GA teams will look like in terms of best to worst?

For 2010s, the top RL teams in the area are every bit as good as the top area GA teams, and are notably better than the average GA teams. 2010 Arlington RL can beat every local GA team, and is notably stronger than 2010 SYC (since the top 2010 SYC players are rostered on Union).

For the current season, the only local GA teams are VRSC, TSJFC, and SYC. TSJFC is terrible because all of the old 2010 FCV GA players left the club. A few followed CC to VRSC and the rest scattered. I agree that the top 2010s who grew up at SYC had already settled at Union. But, if you look at this year’s results, VRSC and SYC GA teams are comparable to Vienna and Arlington’s RL teams, with Loudoun’s RL team a bit behind them. The remaining DMV RL teams are clearly behind this group, this year.

Going forward, I would expect this group to remain comparable. The question for me is where do the 2010 NVA players go? If they stay with NVA at GA, then that team will be better than every other GA and RL in the area by a mile, but my guess is that many of them are scattering to other ECNL teams. MYS and Alex will remain where they are, which is well behind that group.

This picture is similar at 2011, except that VRSC and SYC are better than every local RL team, with MYS and Arlington close and Stafford and GFR trailing a bit further. Same question about NVA, are they staying together at NVA GA’s club or scattering to other ECNL clubs? My guess is that the better players on those RL teams will migrate to a GA club because of the better college recruiting exposure.

NVA 2010s lost every player. Like half went to ECNL, the other half to VRSC. They are going to be worse than Loudoun next year. I would add GFR and VSA to 2010 RL teams that are comparable to mid GA teams, better than Loudoun. VRSC should be much better next year and should easily beat Loudoun and NVA.

How are the remaining ECNL teams able to absorb all these players? Do those teams lose the same number they are absorbing or are their roster sizes growing?

A little of both. Word is that Union’s rosters have exploded and they have a revolt brewing. But bottom ECNL players lost their spots and likely are moving to GA teams. But, when, for example, an NVA team loses all its players to ECNL clubs, the displaced ECNL players scatter, they obviously do not all go to NVA.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have a view on the 2013 VRSC GA team? Did they pick up any Loudoun second team players or are they all going to Loudoun’s GA team (like Loudoun’s first team players who are all going to NVA)? I’m wondering where they will sit relative to NVA and SYC, which have very good 2013 squads, versus Loudoun and MYS, which seem likely to be made up mostly or second and third team players (given NVA and Union paths for their first team players) plus additions from outside the club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Arlington changed their roster over with NVA players. VDA and Union added more pieces to get to over 20 roster spots. Nothing crazy yet but it’s the norm to grow above 18 at u-16 and forward

Which age group?