Impact of McLean/Langley boundary change on McLean real estate choice

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

This is your own make-weight argument so you’re in the best position to say if you got it right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

I would avoid Forestville if Langley is the goal.

Many neighborhoods (Holly Knoll) are 10 mins drive to HHS vs 30 min plus to LHS.

It won’t happen for a few years, but it’s really only a matter of time.

Agree.

I used to live right next to Holly Knoll and it makes no sense that this neighborhood goes to Langley. The drive from my old house to Herndon High took about 5-10 min drive if one hit the lights just right. It was easily a 45 min drive in traffic in the morning to Langley. Waste of time and resources to have these kids sitting on Route 7 and Georgetown Pike.

Teens sit on the bus for MUCH longer heading to Thomas Jefferson. Especially the students who live in far out Loudoun or PWC.

Commute is not a great argument.

Special accommodations are made since TJ, unlike Langley, is a state Governor’s School. The TJ analogy is not a great argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.

DP. Why is it that I never hear racist and classist things from anyone except the sjws? Have you learned nothing from last Tuesday? Your fringe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.

DP. Why is it that I never hear racist and classist things from anyone except the sjws? Have you learned nothing from last Tuesday? Your fringe.

What I learned last Tuesday is that 99.9% of the complaints on this thread are absolutely not what we need to be worried about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.

DP. Why is it that I never hear racist and classist things from anyone except the sjws? Have you learned nothing from last Tuesday? Your fringe.

What I learned last Tuesday is that 99.9% of the complaints on this thread are absolutely not what we need to be worried about.

Take it to the Politics forum. Everyday people will continue to have everyday concerns, and in Fairfax some of those concerns are due to the actions and behavior of the 12-0 Democratic School Board.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.

DP. Why is it that I never hear racist and classist things from anyone except the sjws? Have you learned nothing from last Tuesday? Your fringe.

What I learned last Tuesday is that 99.9% of the complaints on this thread are absolutely not what we need to be worried about.

Take it to the Politics forum. Everyday people will continue to have everyday concerns, and in Fairfax some of those concerns are due to the actions and behavior of the 12-0 Democratic School Board.

Everyday concerns over boundary changes that haven't even been determined yet. So everyone can argue back and forth without anything to actual argue about. Sounds super productive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.

DP. Why is it that I never hear racist and classist things from anyone except the sjws? Have you learned nothing from last Tuesday? Your fringe.

What I learned last Tuesday is that 99.9% of the complaints on this thread are absolutely not what we need to be worried about.

Take it to the Politics forum. Everyday people will continue to have everyday concerns, and in Fairfax some of those concerns are due to the actions and behavior of the 12-0 Democratic School Board.

Everyday concerns over boundary changes that haven't even been determined yet. So everyone can argue back and forth without anything to actual argue about. Sounds super productive.

People plan ahead so they don’t have to scramble at inconvenient times. No one is forcing you to read the thread, so move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.

DP. Why is it that I never hear racist and classist things from anyone except the sjws? Have you learned nothing from last Tuesday? Your fringe.

What I learned last Tuesday is that 99.9% of the complaints on this thread are absolutely not what we need to be worried about.

Take it to the Politics forum. Everyday people will continue to have everyday concerns, and in Fairfax some of those concerns are due to the actions and behavior of the 12-0 Democratic School Board.

Everyday concerns over boundary changes that haven't even been determined yet. So everyone can argue back and forth without anything to actual argue about. Sounds super productive.

People plan ahead so they don’t have to scramble at inconvenient times. No one is forcing you to read the thread, so move on.

Plan ahead based on rumors on a message board. That's a little frightening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.

DP. Why is it that I never hear racist and classist things from anyone except the sjws? Have you learned nothing from last Tuesday? Your fringe.

What I learned last Tuesday is that 99.9% of the complaints on this thread are absolutely not what we need to be worried about.

Take it to the Politics forum. Everyday people will continue to have everyday concerns, and in Fairfax some of those concerns are due to the actions and behavior of the 12-0 Democratic School Board.

Everyday concerns over boundary changes that haven't even been determined yet. So everyone can argue back and forth without anything to actual argue about. Sounds super productive.

People plan ahead so they don’t have to scramble at inconvenient times. No one is forcing you to read the thread, so move on.

Plan ahead based on rumors on a message board. That's a little frightening.

DP. Plan ahead by getting information here and elsewhere and validating it. Frankly, there is a lot of money to be made or losses to avoid by anticipating what the school board is going to do. Like millions to be had by the disruptions and dislocalities that this will all cause.

That’s not my interest in the space, but it’s available to anyone who wants to find the opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.

DP. Why is it that I never hear racist and classist things from anyone except the sjws? Have you learned nothing from last Tuesday? Your fringe.

What I learned last Tuesday is that 99.9% of the complaints on this thread are absolutely not what we need to be worried about.

Take it to the Politics forum. Everyday people will continue to have everyday concerns, and in Fairfax some of those concerns are due to the actions and behavior of the 12-0 Democratic School Board.

Everyday concerns over boundary changes that haven't even been determined yet. So everyone can argue back and forth without anything to actual argue about. Sounds super productive.

People plan ahead so they don’t have to scramble at inconvenient times. No one is forcing you to read the thread, so move on.

Plan ahead based on rumors on a message board. That's a little frightening.

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Message boards like this convey imperfect information, but they convey information that posters looking to plan ahead might not be able to so readily access elsewhere.

You want the SB to be able to do whatever it wants with minimal scrutiny, whether in advance or after the fact. That's not going to happen. They are playing with fire and some of the branches are already lit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.

DP. Why is it that I never hear racist and classist things from anyone except the sjws? Have you learned nothing from last Tuesday? Your fringe.

What I learned last Tuesday is that 99.9% of the complaints on this thread are absolutely not what we need to be worried about.

Take it to the Politics forum. Everyday people will continue to have everyday concerns, and in Fairfax some of those concerns are due to the actions and behavior of the 12-0 Democratic School Board.

Everyday concerns over boundary changes that haven't even been determined yet. So everyone can argue back and forth without anything to actual argue about. Sounds super productive.

People plan ahead so they don’t have to scramble at inconvenient times. No one is forcing you to read the thread, so move on.

Plan ahead based on rumors on a message board. That's a little frightening.

'

Message boards like this convey imperfect information, but they convey information that posters looking to plan ahead might not be able to so readily access elsewhere.

You want the SB to be able to do whatever it wants with minimal scrutiny, whether in advance or after the fact. That's not going to happen. They are playing with fire and some of the branches are already lit.

Plus we all know the avid supporters of redistricting on DCUM are likely gatehouse employees. Query whether they are violating the record keeping requirements of the job, but regardless, we get a lot of good intel by them being on this discussion board.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here- this is my first response, what a strange thread this turned out to be. I don’t live in an area getting rezoned, by the way. That was an incorrect assumption. Rezoning has nothing to do with why we are moving.

We have to leave our current Langley pyramid home as a result of a divorce and I want to make sure that the new home is also in the Langley pyramid so my middle schooler doesn’t have to go through more change. This was on the advice of a therapist. Are you happy?

(I’m a traitor? Wtf?)

Eh, thoughts and prayers, just like you extend to all of your daughters’ friends who will be redistricted.

Right? My kid has severe social anxiety and therapist said same thing.

[Anonymous]

Moving residences is also disruptive. This does not seem to be a logical solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Moving residences is also disruptive. This does not seem to be a logical solution.

It is not the PUBLIC SCHOOL's system responsibility to deal with you or your child not being able to handle change. If anything they are forcing you to develop life skills that you will need to use multiple times throughout your life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

I would avoid Forestville if Langley is the goal.

Many neighborhoods (Holly Knoll) are 10 mins drive to HHS vs 30 min plus to LHS.

It won’t happen for a few years, but it’s really only a matter of time.

With the growth planned for Herndon, there isn’t any room. The school board is starting to see this too.

No. The Shouse move to Langley will be fully implemented in SY2025-26. CIP SY2028-29 has Langley at 98% and that is before any changes from this process. The Langley location removes it from any logical change for receiving students from anywhere but Mclean HS except for the weird stuff along Route 7 that's at Marshall. That could end up at Madison or South Lakes? I have no clue.

Meanwhile the sheer geographic scope of the Langley boundary includes Herndon addresses that vote at Herndon HS. Those households attend Forestville. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY2024-2025Region1withSchoolLocations.pdf Forestville attendance area has many schools bordering it and one with a really funky map is Dranesville with a long tail.

I have no clue on who will attend Dranesville ES which is being expanded to 1000 seats which includes a large addition but that addition including classrooms removes the large difference between design and program capacity. Lower class size ratios mean more classroom required at any site. . CIP FY2022-26:
Dranesville ES design 1,008 program 834