Impact of McLean/Langley boundary change on McLean real estate choice

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP - is your budget? This is a very easy, solvable problem.

+1

This is the major question. Looking on Zillow, 933 Ridge Drive is the cheapest home that seems livable (not a tear down) that zoned for Soring Hill or Church Hill. Is $2.2 doable?

If not, can you consider renting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

I don't think it's particularly relevant to OP's question, but I don't see any part of Franklin Sherman moving to Langley, since the part of FS that had gone to Langley just got moved to Churchill Road.

Agree that, if they are cleaning up split feeders, they might decide to eliminate the split feeders at Lemon Road and Westgate and make one a straight feeder to McLean and the other a straight feeder to Marshall. There are areas within walking distance of Marshall zoned to Lemon Road, so it seems more likely that Westgate would become the straight feeder to McLean, unless they were to also change the ES boundaries. Moving both of Lemon Road and Westgate in their entirety to McLean isn't feasible.

Timber Lane is currently a split feeder to McLean and Falls Church, so if that split feeder were eliminated it would most likely involve sending all of Timber Lane to Falls Church, which is being expanded to 2500 seats but otherwise isn't an area with a lot of growth currently (apart from one new townhouse complex near Route 50 and Graham Road).

If OP wants assurance that she's stay in the Langley pyramid, the safest path will always be to live on the north side of Route 7 and east of Springvale Road. She refers to a "McLean real estate choice," so there's less risk with a McLean address than a Great Falls address.

You think east of springvale provides assurance? I wouldn’t feel that comfortable if I were west of Walker

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

God damn, you are relentless on your sjw crusade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

I would avoid Forestville if Langley is the goal.

Many neighborhoods (Holly Knoll) are 10 mins drive to HHS vs 30 min plus to LHS.

It won’t happen for a few years, but it’s really only a matter of time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

I would avoid Forestville if Langley is the goal.

Many neighborhoods (Holly Knoll) are 10 mins drive to HHS vs 30 min plus to LHS.

It won’t happen for a few years, but it’s really only a matter of time.

With the growth planned for Herndon, there isn’t any room. The school board is starting to see this too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

I don't think it's particularly relevant to OP's question, but I don't see any part of Franklin Sherman moving to Langley, since the part of FS that had gone to Langley just got moved to Churchill Road.

Agree that, if they are cleaning up split feeders, they might decide to eliminate the split feeders at Lemon Road and Westgate and make one a straight feeder to McLean and the other a straight feeder to Marshall. There are areas within walking distance of Marshall zoned to Lemon Road, so it seems more likely that Westgate would become the straight feeder to McLean, unless they were to also change the ES boundaries. Moving both of Lemon Road and Westgate in their entirety to McLean isn't feasible.

Timber Lane is currently a split feeder to McLean and Falls Church, so if that split feeder were eliminated it would most likely involve sending all of Timber Lane to Falls Church, which is being expanded to 2500 seats but otherwise isn't an area with a lot of growth currently (apart from one new townhouse complex near Route 50 and Graham Road).

If OP wants assurance that she's stay in the Langley pyramid, the safest path will always be to live on the north side of Route 7 and east of Springvale Road. She refers to a "McLean real estate choice," so there's less risk with a McLean address than a Great Falls address.

You think east of springvale provides assurance? I wouldn’t feel that comfortable if I were west of Walker

OK - you might be right. The bigger point is that OP refers to a "McLean real estate choice" and the areas currently zoned to Langley that people think may be in play are in Great Falls, not McLean. Unless this boundary consultant and the School Board turn out to be super aggressive, it's hard to see why any McLean neighborhoods zoned to Langley would get moved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

I would avoid Forestville if Langley is the goal.

Many neighborhoods (Holly Knoll) are 10 mins drive to HHS vs 30 min plus to LHS.

It won’t happen for a few years, but it’s really only a matter of time.

With the growth planned for Herndon, there isn’t any room. The school board is starting to see this too.

Herndon got a huge renovation, and the existing overcrowding further east near Tysons is going to have more impact on the future boundaries than potential development in Herndon. I know you want to come up with as many arguments as possible to pre-empt any reassignment of Great Falls neighborhoods to Herndon, but OP is clearly more risk averse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

I don't think it's particularly relevant to OP's question, but I don't see any part of Franklin Sherman moving to Langley, since the part of FS that had gone to Langley just got moved to Churchill Road.

Agree that, if they are cleaning up split feeders, they might decide to eliminate the split feeders at Lemon Road and Westgate and make one a straight feeder to McLean and the other a straight feeder to Marshall. There are areas within walking distance of Marshall zoned to Lemon Road, so it seems more likely that Westgate would become the straight feeder to McLean, unless they were to also change the ES boundaries. Moving both of Lemon Road and Westgate in their entirety to McLean isn't feasible.

Timber Lane is currently a split feeder to McLean and Falls Church, so if that split feeder were eliminated it would most likely involve sending all of Timber Lane to Falls Church, which is being expanded to 2500 seats but otherwise isn't an area with a lot of growth currently (apart from one new townhouse complex near Route 50 and Graham Road).

If OP wants assurance that she's stay in the Langley pyramid, the safest path will always be to live on the north side of Route 7 and east of Springvale Road. She refers to a "McLean real estate choice," so there's less risk with a McLean address than a Great Falls address.

You think east of springvale provides assurance? I wouldn’t feel that comfortable if I were west of Walker

OK - you might be right. The bigger point is that OP refers to a "McLean real estate choice" and the areas currently zoned to Langley that people think may be in play are in Great Falls, not McLean. Unless this boundary consultant and the School Board turn out to be super aggressive, it's hard to see why any McLean neighborhoods zoned to Langley would get moved.

Generally agree with that, though there is constant talk of primarily moving elementary schools, so nothing is entirely safe from their ineptitude.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

I would avoid Forestville if Langley is the goal.

Many neighborhoods (Holly Knoll) are 10 mins drive to HHS vs 30 min plus to LHS.

It won’t happen for a few years, but it’s really only a matter of time.

With the growth planned for Herndon, there isn’t any room. The school board is starting to see this too.

Herndon got a huge renovation, and the existing overcrowding further east near Tysons is going to have more impact on the future boundaries than potential development in Herndon. I know you want to come up with as many arguments as possible to pre-empt any reassignment of Great Falls neighborhoods to Herndon, but OP is clearly more risk averse.

Oh, I missed it, did Herndon Middle get expanded? Or are you talking about creating more split feeders contrary to the policy that just passed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

I would avoid Forestville if Langley is the goal.

Many neighborhoods (Holly Knoll) are 10 mins drive to HHS vs 30 min plus to LHS.

It won’t happen for a few years, but it’s really only a matter of time.

With the growth planned for Herndon, there isn’t any room. The school board is starting to see this too.

Herndon got a huge renovation, and the existing overcrowding further east near Tysons is going to have more impact on the future boundaries than potential development in Herndon. I know you want to come up with as many arguments as possible to pre-empt any reassignment of Great Falls neighborhoods to Herndon, but OP is clearly more risk averse.

Oh, I missed it, did Herndon Middle get expanded? Or are you talking about creating more split feeders contrary to the policy that just passed?

Oh, if needed Herndon MS could put up with some of the same overcrowding that other schools closer to Tysons like Kilmer MS and McLean HS have put up with for years. Or, alternatively, yes, they could turn Cooper into a split feeder to Langley and Herndon. They made Thoreau MS a three-way split feeder to Madison HS, Marshall HS, and Oakton HS a few years ago.

They will never have a perfect solution that achieves all their objectives, so it will depend on what they decide is most important.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

I would avoid Forestville if Langley is the goal.

Many neighborhoods (Holly Knoll) are 10 mins drive to HHS vs 30 min plus to LHS.

It won’t happen for a few years, but it’s really only a matter of time.

Agree.

I used to live right next to Holly Knoll and it makes no sense that this neighborhood goes to Langley. The drive from my old house to Herndon High took about 5-10 min drive if one hit the lights just right. It was easily a 45 min drive in traffic in the morning to Langley. Waste of time and resources to have these kids sitting on Route 7 and Georgetown Pike.

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The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP: first of all, sorry for your situation, sounds like you are wisely planning ahead and trying to make the best of it, and second of all, sorry for how most of this thread turned out (seems like mainly one weird poster).

My .02 is I'd expect most of the current Spring Hill and Churchill Road ES areas to remain at Langley. Probably Colvin Run too? Maybe Great Falls also? But probably not Forestville I'd guess. But I'd think there could also be some reshuffling... e.g. parts of Colvin Run or GF ES could go to Forestville, part of Colvin Run could go to GF, Colvin Run could pick up some or all of the Westbriar island, Westbriar could pick up part of SH near Tysons, etc. Point being those areas seem much more likely to see some form adjustments (not necessarily the ones I just listed, only examples of potential shifts) versus the current Spring Hill (north of 267/7) and Churchill Road ES areas, so that's where I'd focus if you want to ensure Langley assignment long-term. The more north and/or east in those zones the lower the risk, as transportation-wise those areas have shortest travel distance to Langley and hence seem least likely to get juggled.

It's possible part of Franklin Sherman could get rezoned to Langley, but this seems much less likely given they just redid the ES boundaries of McLean pyramid in the past year and probably would want to avoid a second move in such quick succession nor create a split feeder. They could though move the entirety of Franklin Sherman to Langley, and possibly move Lemon Road and/or Westgate to McLean (eliminating split feeders), maybe shifting Timber Lane to Marshall? That runs counter to balancing FARMS percentages (by removing TL from McLean), but does remove an attendance island which is another priority factor they're considering.

Point is, I'd anticipate a lot of the shifts won't necessarily be because there's an obvious immediate need to move a specific area, but might be the result of cascading effects from elsewhere, which brings me back to my point that the closer you are to Langley within it's current zone, the lower the risk of getting moved to another school.

Best of luck!

Forestville is a no brainer to be sent to Herndon.

I would avoid Forestville if Langley is the goal.

Many neighborhoods (Holly Knoll) are 10 mins drive to HHS vs 30 min plus to LHS.

It won’t happen for a few years, but it’s really only a matter of time.

Agree.

I used to live right next to Holly Knoll and it makes no sense that this neighborhood goes to Langley. The drive from my old house to Herndon High took about 5-10 min drive if one hit the lights just right. It was easily a 45 min drive in traffic in the morning to Langley. Waste of time and resources to have these kids sitting on Route 7 and Georgetown Pike.

Teens sit on the bus for MUCH longer heading to Thomas Jefferson. Especially the students who live in far out Loudoun or PWC.

Commute is not a great argument.

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Anonymous wrote:The wealthy in Great Falls can go to private.

The middle class families in Great Falls can go to Herndon.

Did I get the main argument right? How is this fair to the middle class families in Great Falls?

Fair? There is nothing wrong with Herndon unless your scared of .... oh wait we're not supposed to say that.