Why did Kamala lose ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden took too long to step down

Problem is he and everyone else knew Kamala would struggle but they couldn’t bypass her easily for DEI reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Claire McCaskill
“We have to acknowledge that Donald Trump knows our country better than we do”

This was on Morning Joe.

He does. Obviously.

I read an interesting article way back when he ran and won the first time around. I think it was in The Economist.

The article explained one of the steps Trump took to win: he had staff listen to radio call in shows all the country for a long time to determine what people were most concerned with and what fired them up. And that’s how he developed his talking points.

ICYMI: it worked.

[Anonymous]

Because she was not strong enough. She was a long shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depressed about result but at least this time I'm not surprised, these are some of the issues the independent people I know have said that are pulling them away from Democrats.

-lenient with illegal immigration
-tremendous impopularity of refugee cities whose budgets have been impacted by dealing with flood of migrants
-emphasis on wokeness, trans issues, DEI (all things that I care about but average person does not)
-perception that Trump will bring more blue collar jobs back home
-tremendous impopularity of Biden
-handling of Israel/Gaza war

+1. And Biden calling people “garbage” a week before the election didn’t help either (though I thought her response and distance to his comments was good).

Trump was calling Pierre ricans garbage a week before the election, called for the suppression of the free press, and for Liz Cheneys execution all in the past week. Not sure why Dems are judged on a double standard. The question isn’t why Kamala lost - it’s why did trump win despite all of his disqualifying factors including counted felonies, staging a coup, being twice impeached for quid pro quo and trying to obstruct democracy, his general vileness and all the other corruption of his first term.

And I honestly have no idea. I am completely puzzled. Trump is a disaster of a candidate. My best guess is that voters just didn’t “like” Kamala for the same reasons they didn’t “like” Hillary- deeply rooted misogyny. The war in Gaza also likely fractured democratic support, not unlike Bernie bros in 2016.

[Anonymous]

I’m a Harris voter. Moderate Democrat.

Donald Trump was a terrible first term president. He is a criminal and pervert! Yet, people were willing to overlook it because of the direction the country was going in. The trans issue is a huge issue and the people are sick of it being forced everywhere. Government overreach, immigration, and the biggest is the economy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is always core issues for common working people. Stable economy, affordable living, less crime, no free pass entrants. I voted for Kamala but in my heart I knew these issues were not front and center on the Dem ballot. They should have focused on the basics.

Yeah,
I think that’s the lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]Because men showed up. While women who voted cared about killing their unborn ba IEA men by and sledge focused on the terrible economy, mass illegal alien migration and crime, not wanting to fight in senseless wars and the massive skyrocketing costs of food and housing. I mean that’s pretty much it. [/b]

They saw a federal government bully and try everything they could to lock a guy in jail for less than what most of Washington does on a daily basis, they decided they hated the media sycophants to lied tit hen for the better part of eight years. Russia hoaxes, telling the average citizen they economy was good when it wasn’t and of course covering for a buffoon for 3 and half years who couldn’t home and ice cream cone and tried to eat babies while his hospice nurse escorts him in a panda suit.

Who would have thought calling half the nation nazis and garbage wasn’t a good political strategy.

Agree with this. All these issues that DCUM democrats think are so important don't matter to the average American democrat and are even just tolerated by them. Take abortion rights. DCUM posters are obsessed by them. Talk about moving overseas or not sending their kids to certain colleges in the South (Duke, Rice, Vanderbilt) because of it, etc. Most of American democrats don't give two hoots about the abortion issue. They don't like abortion or they outright think it is morally wrong. But if they raise their concerns they are immediately told by the liberal elites that they are 1)wrong 2)stupid. Nobody like being told they're stupid. The liberal elites are so, so, so out of touch with the average American, even the average democrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats have lost the working class voter. First the white working class and now the latino and black working class is falling to tje right wing. This has been going on for a long time now so the work to repair this will be difficult. Democrats need to prioritize economic issues over identity politics. I hope that the leadership can grasp this.

If by economic issues you really mean immigration, I think you are correct.

Because the reality is the economy is strong and unemployment is low. And the Dems are literally the only ones funding safety net and government handouts.

But the part that Dems don’t understand is that a majority of black voters and Latino voters are fed up with immigration.

[Anonymous]

21M less people voted in this election than the last one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depressed about result but at least this time I'm not surprised, these are some of the issues the independent people I know have said that are pulling them away from Democrats.

-lenient with illegal immigration
-tremendous impopularity of refugee cities whose budgets have been impacted by dealing with flood of migrants
-emphasis on wokeness, trans issues, DEI (all things that I care about but average person does not)
-perception that Trump will bring more blue collar jobs back home
-tremendous impopularity of Biden
-handling of Israel/Gaza war

+1. And Biden calling people “garbage” a week before the election didn’t help either (though I thought her response and distance to his comments was good).

Trump was calling Pierre ricans garbage a week before the election, called for the suppression of the free press, and for Liz Cheneys execution all in the past week. Not sure why Dems are judged on a double standard. The question isn’t why Kamala lost - it’s why did trump win despite all of his disqualifying factors including counted felonies, staging a coup, being twice impeached for quid pro quo and trying to obstruct democracy, his general vileness and all the other corruption of his first term.

And I honestly have no idea. I am completely puzzled. Trump is a disaster of a candidate. My best guess is that voters just didn’t “like” Kamala for the same reasons they didn’t “like” Hillary- deeply rooted misogyny. The war in Gaza also likely fractured democratic support, not unlike Bernie bros in 2016.

Hilary and Kamala are two deeply unlikable women. I held my nose and voted for both but neither one have a shred of likability.

[Anonymous]

This board has been so incredibly hostile to posters who have tried to explain the point of view of what happens to be the majority of voters’ views as of yesterday. The thread about being a Christian and voting for Trump is a clear example.

If you feel blindsided today, maybe take a minute to actually listen to others and vary your news sources.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:21M less people voted in this election than the last one.

You have to earn people’s vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Ragin’ Cajun is always right.

1. It’s the economy, stupid
2. She had to be up by three points in each of the races. She wasn’t.

All the rest is window dressing. You don’t SHE answers a question straight? She’s not “likable”? She plays the race card? Have you seen her opponent? This would all not be an issue if food and housing prices were lower. It’s not due to a Democratic President that those things are the way they are.

The focus on “open borders” and “DEI” were also highly emphasized by outlets funded by foreign information efforts. They got people already feeling poor spun up on distracting issues. They got us pointing the finger at America’s problems at “others” who “took away our” something. Guns, jobs, safety, what have you. Don’t look at the big corporations record profits while they’re shifting jobs overseas and costs on you.

But at the end of the day, listen to Carville.

People know about the offshoring. Trump wants to stop that. That’s why some people voted for him. Companies that offshore should be taxed heavily

[Anonymous]

MEdia lying

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is always core issues for common working people. Stable economy, affordable living, less crime, no free pass entrants. I voted for Kamala but in my heart I knew these issues were not front and center on the Dem ballot. They should have focused on the basics.

Yeah,
I think that’s the lesson.

Dems walked away from the working class. The teamsters vote should have been the flashing red sign for the Kamala campaign.