Why did Kamala lose ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, this thread is mostly just bad-faith trolling of Harris voters now.

Pointless to engage.

Really? Did you happen to read the troll farm titles of every thread during the past 2 weeks when you were gloating and though Harris was going to win?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Democrat open borders killed their chances.

The borders are not open. My goodness you really do believe everything he shouts.

Do yourself a favor. Go to Baltimore and attend an asylum hearing where they will punt down the calendar 90% of the attendees. Also note that 90%+ of attendees have complete bullshit stories and are not deserving of asylum and instead of able-bodied men trying to game the system. Very frustrating if you are trying to actually help somebody.

The border is a problem. Everybody knows it except dotards like you that refuse to accept the reality of the situation. Asylum seeking is just one of many issues.

The Bipartisan Border Bill literally had specific provisions to stop the fraudulent asylum requests, along with codifying "Remain in Mexico" type policy but the Republicans killed it.

And now they are running around lying their asses off about it.

[Anonymous]

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Do yourself a favor. Go to Baltimore and attend an asylum hearing where they will punt down the calendar 90% of the attendees. Also note that 90%+ of attendees have complete bullshit stories and are not deserving of asylum and instead of able-bodied men trying to game the system. Very frustrating if you are trying to actually help somebody.

The border is a problem. Everybody knows it except dotards like you that refuse to accept the reality of the situation. Asylum seeking is just one of many issues.

+1. What's rich is reading all the sanctimonious pro open border immigration crap on this forum yet all the other DCUM sub-forums on here are full of leftist strivers OBSESSED with living in a prestige neighborhood and sending their kid to the "best" schools. We all know what that means: As far away as possible from poor minorities as possible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Democrat open borders killed their chances.

Republican lies about democrat open borders killed their chances.

Kamala Harris was clear that she supported the Bipartisan Border Bill.

But that was drowned out by a million MAGA lies.

The only way Republicans can get elected is through lies and fearmongering. Proven again in 2024. Congratulations.

More than 10 million people entered the US through TPS, Asylum claims and illegal border crossings during the Biden administration. This is completely unacceptable to the average American. Most people are ok with a limited amount of legal immigration, but an influx of 10M people, (3% of the entire population) in addition to the traditional legal immigrants is just too much. If Dems still cannot understand this then they are guaranteed to lose in 2028. Most people don’t care about offensive comments, they are more concerned about actual outcomes. Trump did reduce both legal and illegal immigration during his presidency. The Biden Harris Admin did not and they waited until 3.5 years to implement more restrictive immigration policies. Americans did not trust Harris to take a more restrictive path on immigration given her previous statements in 2020 and her senate voting record. Unfortunately, Trumps absurd lies about immigrants resonated with voters because he at least understood public sentiment. Harris on the other hand was campaigning on an “earned pathway to citizenship” for undocumented migrants around two months before Election Day. Look at the 1 minute mark of this video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYksNh9yy1k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She's a repulsive con artist. She is literally not black, for one. She stole a law school scholarship for disadvantaged first-gen minority students—she probably stole a scholarship from Howard, too. She pathologically lied about working at California McDonald's when she was a 19 year old devout Hindu who had just moved to California from Montreal. It never ends. The masses know fake when they see it. She's a lifelong fraud. Barack got lucky he rose to fame in the early oughts of social media or he probably would have been exposed, too.

What the hell are you rambling about?

Kamala is half black and Indian. Obama is half white and black, born in Hawaii, not Kenya. I'll tell you another reason why Kamala lost, too many nutjobs spouting crazy conspiracy theories. MAGA has fully embraced you and your ilk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, this thread is mostly just bad-faith trolling of Harris voters now.

Pointless to engage.

Less “of,” than “by.”

[Anonymous]

Saw this on X as an explanation to Europeans why the election went the way it did. Seems to resonate with a lot of people:

1. Americans love their country and want it to be the best in the world. America is a nation of people who conquered a continent. They love strength. They love winning. Any leader who appeals to that has an automatic advantage.

2. Unlike Europeans, Americans have not accepted managed decline. They don't have Net Zero here, they believe in producing their own energy and making it as cheap as possible because they know that their prosperity depends on it.

3. Prices for most basic goods in the US have increased rapidly and are sky high. What the official statistics say about inflation and the reality of people's lives are not the same.

4. Unlike you, Americans do not believe in socialism. They believe in meritocracy. They don't care about the super rich being super rich because they know that they live in a country where being super rich is available to anyone with the talent and drive to make it. They don't resent success, they celebrate it.

5. Americans are the most pro-immigration people in the world. Read that again. Seriously, read it again. Americans love an immigrant success story. They want more talented immigrants to come to America. But they refuse to accept people coming illegally. They believe in having a border.

6. Americans are sensitive about racial issues and their country's imperfect history. They believe that those who are disadvantaged by the circumstances of their birth should be given the opportunity to succeed. What they reject, however, is the idea that in order to address the errors of the past new errors must be made. DEI is racist. They know it and they reject it precisely because they are not racist.

7. Americans are the most philosemitic nation on earth. October 7 and the pro-Hamas left's reaction shocked them to their very core because, among other things, they remember what 9/11 was like and they know jihad when they see it.

8. Americans are extremely practical people. They care about what works, not what sounds good. In Europe, we produce great writers and intellectuals. In America they produce (and attract) great engineers, businessmen and investors. Because of this, they care less about Trump's rhetoric than you do and more about his policies than you do.

9. Americans are deeply optimistic people. They hate negativity. The woke view of American history as a series of evils for which they must eternally apologise is utterly abhorrent to them. They believe in moving forward together, not endlessly obsessing about the past.

10. America is a country whose founding story is one of resistance to government overreach. They loathe unnecessary restrictions, regulations and control. They understand that freedom comes with the price of self-reliance and they pay it gladly.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats have lost the working class voter. First the white working class and now the latino and black working class is falling to tje right wing. This has been going on for a long time now so the work to repair this will be difficult. Democrats need to prioritize economic issues over identity politics. I hope that the leadership can grasp this.

It’s because DEI is actually virulently anti-working class, and voters know that.

How is "DEI" "anti-working class?" And, you seem to be referring to DEI in the private sector, which employs the majority of the working class. I'm not understanding you at all.

PP here. This is a complex topic that could be its own thread, but basically when you elevate immutable identity over class identity, you weaken the working class. DEI strategies have always hinged on the idea that social class is less important than gender, race, sex, sexual orientation, etc. But for most working class Americans, their experiences in life are far more defined by being working class than anything else. And more than that, by asking people to focus on immutable identities rather than class, it essentially works to prevent working class solidarity. Have you ever asked yourself why the biggest corporations in the world went all-in on DEI? It is because it is an anti-union effort. If you can pit working class employees against each other by fomenting distrust simply based on who they are as people, no unions will form.

Additionally, as implemented by institutions, DEI came up with a specific language and code words that were only accessible to those wealthy enough to go through the education that trained that language. DEI requires speaking a certain way, coding a certain way, etc., that is absolutely focused on the needs and wants of the upper and UMC, not the LMC and LC. The gatekeeping from DEI was meant to prevent class mobility.

But that is really for another thread.

This seems quite convoluted. I make no such mental connections between DEI and anti-union, and never before have I heard anything about this. And how does it break working-class solidarity? Shouldn't working class solidarity be inclusive, and not be a monolithic bloc of race, gender, et cetera? And I don't see how it prevents class mobility. Though people like to make wild claims about "DEI promotions" I don't think it's actually true that corporations would promote a substantively less-qualified person over a more-qualified person just because of DEI, that is against their own best interests. I've heard people make claims that it happens but i doubt they actually ever had access to the HR info on the HR decisions and qualifications of the person who was hired or promoted. More likely it's just sour grapes.

And in any event, how is this a "Kamala Harris" thing? You're mostly talking about corporate DEI. There hasn't been any Biden/Harris DEI policy putting carrots or sticks on companies regarding DEI that I'm aware of. DEI isn't new. It didn't just happen with Biden. It also existed all through Trump's administration, and he did nothing. So what makes people think he will do anything about it now?

And what COULD he even do about it now? He has no power to tell corporations what to do, unless he pushes some agency to do a rulemaking which does... what, exactly? And even a rulemaking would require some statutory basis, so he'd need the legislature. And then, he'd likely face legal challenges from the court if we go back to minorities never having any opportunity for social mobility because of anti-DEI.

So help me understand why you think this is a win and what it is you think Trump will do?

The Democrats found this out to be true first hand!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She's a repulsive con artist. She is literally not black, for one. She stole a law school scholarship for disadvantaged first-gen minority students—she probably stole a scholarship from Howard, too. She pathologically lied about working at California McDonald's when she was a 19 year old devout Hindu who had just moved to California from Montreal. It never ends. The masses know fake when they see it. She's a lifelong fraud. Barack got lucky he rose to fame in the early oughts of social media or he probably would have been exposed, too.

What the hell are you rambling about?

Kamala is half black and Indian. Obama is half white and black, born in Hawaii, not Kenya. I'll tell you another reason why Kamala lost, too many nutjobs spouting crazy conspiracy theories. MAGA has fully embraced you and your ilk.

No, she's not. Kamala's dad was born in Jamaica; Jamaican nationality is not Black or African race/ethnicity. Her dad is bi-racial wealthy European and high caste Indian.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Democrat open borders killed their chances.

The borders are not open. My goodness you really do believe everything he shouts.

Do yourself a favor. Go to Baltimore and attend an asylum hearing where they will punt down the calendar 90% of the attendees. Also note that 90%+ of attendees have complete bullshit stories and are not deserving of asylum and instead of able-bodied men trying to game the system. Very frustrating if you are trying to actually help somebody.

The border is a problem. Everybody knows it except dotards like you that refuse to accept the reality of the situation. Asylum seeking is just one of many issues.

The Bipartisan Border Bill literally had specific provisions to stop the fraudulent asylum requests, along with codifying "Remain in Mexico" type policy but the Republicans killed it.

And now they are running around lying their asses off about it.

The border bill still would have allowed in almost 1.5 million undocumented migrants per year. Americans aren't dumb. Dems can keep housing about the bipartisan deal all they want, but it was a a trash bill due to the Dems watering it down and making it so that all it did was still allow in millions while giving a lot of money to simply precess the faster to be allowed in the country. That's why Dems got their azzes kicked. Trash border deal after the Dems created open borders in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Do yourself a favor. Go to Baltimore and attend an asylum hearing where they will punt down the calendar 90% of the attendees. Also note that 90%+ of attendees have complete bullshit stories and are not deserving of asylum and instead of able-bodied men trying to game the system. Very frustrating if you are trying to actually help somebody.

The border is a problem. Everybody knows it except dotards like you that refuse to accept the reality of the situation. Asylum seeking is just one of many issues.

+1. What's rich is reading all the sanctimonious pro open border immigration crap on this forum, yet all the other DCUM sub-forums on here are full of leftist strivers OBSESSED with living in a prestige neighborhood and sending their kid to the "best" k-12 schools. We all know what that means: Avoiding any and all from poor minorities, unless they're over to deliver groceries, clean the toilets, and mow the lawn for peasant wages.

[Anonymous]

Because she is a woman of color, is not a strong communicator, and did not break sufficiently from Biden in a change election. That's pretty much it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because she is a woman of color, is not a strong communicator, and did not break sufficiently from Biden in a change election. That's pretty much it.

This minus the POC excuse.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone (R or D) seems to agree that Harris was a poor candidate.
So let's go a step further and ask why.
The reason is that Democrats no longer allow the people to choose the candidate.
In 2020, there was initially a wide open primary with many candidates, and then a backroom deal was made where everyone withdrew overnight and pledged their support to Biden.
Then, in 2024, the party elites blocked anyone from challenging Biden, and handed him the nomination again, when he was obviously unfit.
Then, once they realized his unfitness, they forced him out and installed Kamala, again with no input from voters.
In contrast, Trump he has earned every single vote that he has ever gotten. That certainly cannot be said about Biden or Harris.

I don’t think this is why voters opted for Trump.

I think Trump had effectively shut down the border (albeit illegally as determined by litigation) and the Biden administration quickly reopened the border. No clue which voters he was trying to appease with that move.

The influx of immigrants transported to blue cities infuriated most voters.

So did the crime that liberals seemingly defended on mainstream media by saying Fox News and maga idiots were lying about crime and drugs and poop in the streets, etc. That also infuriated voters.

Then the whole bizarre fixation on trans rights pushed most voters over the edge. I think trans rights are important but that means fair treatment not special treatment. When liberals went all in on becoming the language police and saying things like pregnant persons I think that’s when we lost a lot of Dems and independents.

So here we are: Trump won and Congress is solidly Red.

Can we all just admit that our party and our media screwed up by making it look like we took a hard left and landed in crazyland instead of just sticking with “let’s be cool and treat everyone equally” rather than beating up on white cisgender whatever while calling them racists/idiots.

I call BS on the transgender issue. I refuse to believe voters were motivated by fear of a boy being in their daughter's gymnastics class or whatever. Immigration and economy were the hot tickets. I will never understand why right wingers are so fixated on LGBTQIAs, like they shouldn't exist or something.

[Anonymous]

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Do yourself a favor. Go to Baltimore and attend an asylum hearing where they will punt down the calendar 90% of the attendees. Also note that 90%+ of attendees have complete bullshit stories and are not deserving of asylum and instead of able-bodied men trying to game the system. Very frustrating if you are trying to actually help somebody.

The border is a problem. Everybody knows it except dotards like you that refuse to accept the reality of the situation. Asylum seeking is just one of many issues.

+1. What's rich is reading all the sanctimonious pro open border immigration crap on this forum, yet all the other DCUM sub-forums on here are full of leftist strivers OBSESSED with living in a prestige neighborhood and sending their kid to the "best" k-12 schools. We all know what that means: Avoiding any and all from poor minorities, unless they're over to deliver groceries, clean the toilets, and mow the lawn for peasant wages.

There’s a lot of truth to this.