MIT releases post-affirmative action class of 2028 data

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Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Was this why you hybridded your race?

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

They will claim white flight. But we all know the real reason is they’re not competitive, which is why they’re so increasingly racist.

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Anonymous wrote:My white mid did not report race anywhere. Not on common app box or separate college section. Left it blank. All the kids were advised to leave it blank at our school,

They don’t have the “other, non-specified” category, do they? I didn’t open link.

My kid was admitted to a few Ivies, Hopkins, T10/20s. He will not be in the “white” category since he never checked his race. I suppose whites all stayed stable or dropped for this rule of reason too.

we were told the opposite, if you dont declare looked down upon

Strange. That wasn’t true for my kid. I’m the pp. my son was accepted to 15 of 16 schools (all T10-T20).

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Anonymous wrote:Good. Meritocracy is the way to go.

MIT does not have meritocratic admissions.

Isn’t a school that has strict SAT/ACT requirements closer to it than most colleges?

Many top schools have that. MIT still is heavily invested in extracurriculars and opinion-based metrics that have little to do with being the best student.

MIT defines the 'best student' as they see fit for thier institution whatever those characteristics may be. It's interesting that so many want to define 'merit' by a test for Math and Verbal proficiency and are aghast that some (people, institutions) define 'merit' differently. The idea that a person with M=780 has more 'merit' or is a 'better student' than a 700 is only true if one decides that that is the metric. Add in leadership, community service, participation in school activities, accomplishment in an art form, and/or being successful in a challenging environment and you have a different definition.

A score of 780 may indicate the aptitude to be successful in MIT's program, but that doesn't equate to full definition of the 'best student' for theirs program.

Who hires a person, finds a mate, choose a church, decide on friends by a single quantitative metric (or two) and defines the as 'best'?
[These analogies are dumb. When you are a college that has a few months to pick 1,300 people out of 33,000 applicants, something totally unlike these decisions, then you absolutely need a few appropriate quantitative metrics in order to weed out large numbers of applicants quickly.]

The idea that "leadership, community service, participation in school activities, accomplishment in an art form" etc. are going to outweigh test scores and good grades in a rigorous curriculum as measures of merit is what dishonest people say when they want to run interference for anti-Asian discrimination.

Not at all. As demonstrated by the fact that Asian students over-index at the most selective institutions. I, of course do not have access to data, but I would be very surprised if there weren't some Asian students with lower 'stats' than others, but were compelling for a host of reasons aside from test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Turned off? Did she pretend she could get in? Why don’t you encourage her to apply to Howard University? She can get her diversity experience there.

I’m pretty sure this poster is white…black people aren’t the only ones uncomfortable with a majority Asian environment

This is really racist. If you substitute any other race for Asian in "uncomfortable with a majority Asian environment" you'd be branded a racist but somehow you think it's okay to say this.

You seem obsessed with being a victim. If the ivies were majority black or Hispanic, people would be in a goddamn frenzy. Asians aren’t the first race to have racism happen to them, but it’s also just truthful that single race environments quickly become exclusive.

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Hopkins is only 19% white. More blacks and Hispanics.

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

They will claim white flight. But we all know the real reason is they’re not competitive, which is why they’re so increasingly racist.

Please expand. This doesn't make any sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Seems like a top 20 kid would realize a tour group is not the same as their freshman class.

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Anonymous wrote:As expected. But a little surprised by the decline in Latino students. There are a gazillion students with at least a grandparent from Latin America. Lots of Brazilian, Argentinian, Chilean families value education.

A lot of them are white. Most in Argentina are white.

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

They will claim white flight. But we all know the real reason is they’re not competitive, which is why they’re so increasingly racist.

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What a hateful remark. Please check in with yourself before you post.
Hate has no home on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

yes, likely. My kids would also leave if they became overwhelmingly Hispanic or black. The same reason my white kids aren't applying to HBCUs.

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Anonymous wrote:in 10-20 years most of these institutions will be led by Asian Americans

No, they will be led by Indian Americans. Look at the Silicon Valley.

First of all, Indians are Asians. Second, who are the current leaders of Nvidia, Broadcom and AMD?

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Anonymous wrote:So no gain in white seats. All the seats previously occupied by URM went to Asians.

This follows what we are seeing on tours. We toured a dozen top20 schools this summer and the tour groups were 75-95% Asian and South Asian.

My kid (mixed race Asian) was completely turned off and we're left wondering what to do. She wants diversity in college.

Seems like a top 20 kid would realize a tour group is not the same as their freshman class.

I've been through this with 3 kids and have toured some of these schools repeatedly. The tour group demographics are actually pretty in sync with the demographics of the student body. You can tell a lot by who is touring.

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

They will claim white flight. But we all know the real reason is they’re not competitive, which is why they’re so increasingly racist.

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What a hateful remark. Please check in with yourself before you post.
Hate has no home on DCUM.

Being “uncomfortable “ with a majority Asian school isn’t hateful while pointing out its racist is?

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Race shouldn't matter as much as it form. Not anymore

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Anonymous wrote:Several posters already seem to be uncomfortable with how Asian elite schools are getting and it's still early in the process. Will we see "white flight" out of the ivies?

They will claim white flight. But we all know the real reason is they’re not competitive, which is why they’re so increasingly racist.

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What a hateful remark. Please check in with yourself before you post.
Hate has no home on DCUM.

Is this a joke?
DCUM has been infested with racism. Actually, anti-asian racism is almost the trademark of DCUM.