jobs are very hard to find for recent grads.

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Anonymous wrote:I dunno. Im hiring stem grads and cant find many qualified. 3.5 and up GPA, good class experience and willing to work in person every day. And this is for $80k and up.

We also are hiring STEM, want 3.0 GPA, US citizenship, work in the building daily.

Several promising candidates say they will only work fully remote - and their resume address is 20-25 minutes away (so it is not someone applying from Kansas).

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Anonymous wrote:It's hard to be competitive in BME without a master's. It's such a specialized field.

Truth. And a PhD in BME would be better. BME is different from EE or MechE in that way.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard even fresh grads with CS from top 10 CS schools are also having a hard time.

Yes, my nephew graduated from CM and had an offer rescinded at a big tech company. He was devastated. He'd put a deposit down on an apartment in that city and everything. The company made cutbacks/layoffs and rescinded several job offers. He'd even interned at the same company the summer before his senior year.

My sister & BIL had to pay to break his lease because that was cheaper than them paying his rent in that city for the next X months while he looked for a new job.

My BIL said he applied to over 100 jobs but only received a handful of interviews. He ended up getting a job with a smaller newish company in the DMV area. He's living at home and applying to everything he comes across. I don't know what his salary is but my sis said it wouldn't even cover 1 year of tuition at CM.

No idea what CMU tuition costs, but the Federal government will usually hire a CS new grad with at least a 3.0 GPA at around GS-7 pay plus the computer science plus-up (worth about 3 steps, I think).

Local places STEM majors should apply include contractors like MItre and Aerospace and IDA and CNA or government (NIST, NIH, ARL, NSWC, NRL, USPTO, NAVSEA). NSA also reportedly hires tons and tons of CS graduates at Ft Meade.

I have to believe that if a recent CS grad applied to all of those that at least some would want to interview the student.

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Anonymous wrote:I dunno. Im hiring stem grads and cant find many qualified. 3.5 and up GPA, good class experience and willing to work in person every day. And this is for $80k and up.

We also are hiring STEM, want 3.0 GPA, US citizenship, work in the building daily.

Several promising candidates say they will only work fully remote - and their resume address is 20-25 minutes away (so it is not someone applying from Kansas).

What job is this?

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Anonymous wrote:I dunno. Im hiring stem grads and cant find many qualified. 3.5 and up GPA, good class experience and willing to work in person every day. And this is for $80k and up.

We also are hiring STEM, want 3.0 GPA, US citizenship, work in the building daily.

Several promising candidates say they will only work fully remote - and their resume address is 20-25 minutes away (so it is not someone applying from Kansas).

My 20 something kid loves going into the office. Loves access to senior management and gets pulled into high profile projects.

He can’t understand others’ attitudes…though he also lives less than a mile from the office in SF.

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I work at the patent office. A STEM students dream (if you can meet quota). They usually need electrical engineers; getting in with anything Bio is super hard but worth a try.

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Anonymous wrote:100% accurate with my son. Graduated with a degree in Computer Engineering from Pittsburgh University back in December 2023 with two internships. Despite that, he is still looking for a job. He was offered a full-time position from the company that he interned with but the offer was rescinded due to funding. He had applied over 2,500 jobs, reached out to school career center, alumni, and others without much luck.

Just wondering, how is it possible to apply for 2,500 jobs over the course of 8 or so months? I look around on LinkedIn and apply for positions every now and then, and for each one I customize the resume a bit, write a specific cover letter, etc. At best, each will take half an hour.

Is he using an AI tool that scours job sites and applies for you without even getting your approval to send in the application?

Not being sarcastic at all - truly curious.

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Anonymous wrote:No idea what CMU tuition costs, but the Federal government will usually hire a CS new grad with at least a 3.0 GPA at around GS-7 pay plus the computer science plus-up (worth about 3 steps, I think).

Local places STEM majors should apply include contractors like MItre and Aerospace and IDA and CNA or government (NIST, NIH, ARL, NSWC, NRL, USPTO, NAVSEA). NSA also reportedly hires tons and tons of CS graduates at Ft Meade.

I have to believe that if a recent CS grad applied to all of those that at least some would want to interview the student.

This is NOT a wise decision or investment. CMU costs 84K/year (post-tax money) to attend and GS-7 step 1 is around 56K/year (pre-tax money) in the DMV. People do not attends CMU for a GS-7 government job.

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Anonymous wrote:I found the career center to be useless at my University.

She needs to wait tables or work at starbucks or work retail and keep applying.

She needs to be willing to relocate. A lot of the medical device companies are in the south and the economy is growing in the south. In my southern university town we have around 4 medical device companies that are always hiring entry level.

Talk to the military recruiters. They are always hiring from the Ivy colleges. My sister could not get a job when she graduated from Wharton (Univ of Penn). She ended up joining the Marines to get a job and there were about 4 classmates from Wharton who also joined the Marines at that time as they could not get jobs.

Yes, my sister and her classmates from Wharton went to OCS and commissioned. None were planning on joining the military. My sister was selling bikes at a bike store in center city Philly and my Dad made her talk to the recruiters.
I have literally never heard of a Wharton grad that joined the Marines to get a job. I know ROTC kids that have to serve after graduation.

What does it even mean to join the Marines to get a job…isn’t that called enlisting?

I am sure they commissioned rather than enlisting. It actually offers decent pay, great benefits, and good networking. I am not at all surprised. Being a military office is prestigious, gets you a security clearance, and can open a lot of doors. It’s not “below” someone just because they’re an Ivy grad.

Don’t disagree…but those are kids that want a military career and you are an idiot to not talk to the military before starting college, because they will pay for it.

However, you don’t see one Wharton grad (not to mention 5) deciding to do it because they can’t get a job.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD recently graduated from an Ivy with a degree in Biomedical Engineering with an internship in her junior, and she is still looking for a permanent job. She has been looking for a job since January 2024. She also has twelve friends from HS, five from Ivies, four from UVA, and three from Virginia Tech, which also graduated in 2024. Of those twelve friends, eight are still looking for jobs. Those four that actually have jobs, they get them through family connections. Two have jobs with a government contractor because their father/mother is a fed SES in the government. The other two have jobs because their uncle/aunt is SVP in the company. My DD is very depressed at the moment. I feel so helpless that I am not in a position to help my DD and her friends.

It is a tough year for a lot of graduates. it was for me in the early 1990s, eventually they will get an opportunity, it does work out.

I hope the SES employees who had contractors hire their kids are reported to their agency’s IG office. It is not ethical.

Yep. Ivy League engineering grad here, 1991. Only one my classmates in my major had a job at graduation. Several of my friends went to grad school instead to wait things out. The rest of us went home and did what we could to get by. We all eventually found jobs, it just took some time.

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My sister, the Wharton grad, was selling bikes at a bike shop in center city Philly as she could not get a job. Most Wharton grads move to NYC to work and my sister did not want to do that. My Dad got disgusted and made her talk to the military recruiters.

She went into OCS. She was not planning on joining the military. She did have a good career.

The academy grads are fast tracked but Ivy grads in the military do well. She worked throughout Europe and spent a lot of time in countries that were former Soviet bloc countries that want to join NATO.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I heard even fresh grads with CS from top 10 CS schools are also having a hard time.

Yes, my nephew graduated from CM and had an offer rescinded at a big tech company. He was devastated. He'd put a deposit down on an apartment in that city and everything. The company made cutbacks/layoffs and rescinded several job offers. He'd even interned at the same company the summer before his senior year.

My sister & BIL had to pay to break his lease because that was cheaper than them paying his rent in that city for the next X months while he looked for a new job.

My BIL said he applied to over 100 jobs but only received a handful of interviews. He ended up getting a job with a smaller newish company in the DMV area. He's living at home and applying to everything he comes across. I don't know what his salary is but my sis said it wouldn't even cover 1 year of tuition at CM.

No idea what CMU tuition costs, but the Federal government will usually hire a CS new grad with at least a 3.0 GPA at around GS-7 pay plus the computer science plus-up (worth about 3 steps, I think).

Local places STEM majors should apply include contractors like MItre and Aerospace and IDA and CNA or government (NIST, NIH, ARL, NSWC, NRL, USPTO, NAVSEA). NSA also reportedly hires tons and tons of CS graduates at Ft Meade.

I have to believe that if a recent CS grad applied to all of those that at least some would want to interview the student.

CMU is $90K per year. 2021 and 2022 CS CMU graduates were getting offers over $125K/$130K

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Anonymous wrote:I found the career center to be useless at my University.

She needs to wait tables or work at starbucks or work retail and keep applying.

She needs to be willing to relocate. A lot of the medical device companies are in the south and the economy is growing in the south. In my southern university town we have around 4 medical device companies that are always hiring entry level.

Talk to the military recruiters. They are always hiring from the Ivy colleges. My sister could not get a job when she graduated from Wharton (Univ of Penn). She ended up joining the Marines to get a job and there were about 4 classmates from Wharton who also joined the Marines at that time as they could not get jobs.

I have literally never heard of a Wharton grad that joined the Marines to get a job. I know ROTC kids that have to serve after graduation.

What does it even mean to join the Marines to get a job…isn’t that called enlisting?

Not Wharton, but close enough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Moulton

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Anonymous wrote:My sister, the Wharton grad, was selling bikes at a bike shop in center city Philly as she could not get a job. Most Wharton grads move to NYC to work and my sister did not want to do that. My Dad got disgusted and made her talk to the military recruiters.

She went into OCS. She was not planning on joining the military. She did have a good career.

The academy grads are fast tracked but Ivy grads in the military do well. She worked throughout Europe and spent a lot of time in countries that were former Soviet bloc countries that want to join NATO.

Who goes to Wharton and works in a bike shop because you don’t want to go to NYC?

As a parent, I guess I might make my kid join the military too. This is like my kid wanting to work in politics but refusing to move to DC.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found the career center to be useless at my University.

She needs to wait tables or work at starbucks or work retail and keep applying.

She needs to be willing to relocate. A lot of the medical device companies are in the south and the economy is growing in the south. In my southern university town we have around 4 medical device companies that are always hiring entry level.

Talk to the military recruiters. They are always hiring from the Ivy colleges. My sister could not get a job when she graduated from Wharton (Univ of Penn). She ended up joining the Marines to get a job and there were about 4 classmates from Wharton who also joined the Marines at that time as they could not get jobs.

I have literally never heard of a Wharton grad that joined the Marines to get a job. I know ROTC kids that have to serve after graduation.

What does it even mean to join the Marines to get a job…isn’t that called enlisting?

Not Wharton, but close enough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Moulton

I doubt he joined because he couldn’t get a job…that’s the difference.