jobs are very hard to find for recent grads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found the career center to be useless at my University.

She needs to wait tables or work at starbucks or work retail and keep applying.

She needs to be willing to relocate. A lot of the medical device companies are in the south and the economy is growing in the south. In my southern university town we have around 4 medical device companies that are always hiring entry level.

Talk to the military recruiters. They are always hiring from the Ivy colleges. My sister could not get a job when she graduated from Wharton (Univ of Penn). She ended up joining the Marines to get a job and there were about 4 classmates from Wharton who also joined the Marines at that time as they could not get jobs.

I have literally never heard of a Wharton grad that joined the Marines to get a job. I know ROTC kids that have to serve after graduation.

What does it even mean to join the Marines to get a job…isn’t that called enlisting?

I am sure they commissioned rather than enlisting. It actually offers decent pay, great benefits, and good networking. I am not at all surprised. Being a military office is prestigious, gets you a security clearance, and can open a lot of doors. It’s not “below” someone just because they’re an Ivy grad.

Don’t disagree…but those are kids that want a military career and you are an idiot to not talk to the military before starting college, because they will pay for it.

However, you don’t see one Wharton grad (not to mention 5) deciding to do it because they can’t get a job.

[Anonymous]

If she needs a job restaurants are hiring. Please, send all your kids to restaurants while they are looking for jobs in their field.
I have three employers calling me to come in. I'm too old. I'm done working. They can make $30+ an hour in DC.
Also, send them back to school for finance.

[Anonymous]

First DS graduated in 2008 and found a job/-hired from internship. Many classmate friends took whatever they could (including WM job) and then went to grad school in various fields.

Next ds graduated in 2019 and had multiple offers. He had a phd by age 24 though. He’s done well and started off earning 120k, now at 150k.

Final ds graduated in 2023 and was in demand with multiple offers. Got a great signing bonus, moving allowance, salary. Plans to work one more year for experience then go to for a masters and doctorate.

All three were in medical fields.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found the career center to be useless at my University.

She needs to wait tables or work at starbucks or work retail and keep applying.

She needs to be willing to relocate. A lot of the medical device companies are in the south and the economy is growing in the south. In my southern university town we have around 4 medical device companies that are always hiring entry level.

Talk to the military recruiters. They are always hiring from the Ivy colleges. My sister could not get a job when she graduated from Wharton (Univ of Penn). She ended up joining the Marines to get a job and there were about 4 classmates from Wharton who also joined the Marines at that time as they could not get jobs.

I have literally never heard of a Wharton grad that joined the Marines to get a job. I know ROTC kids that have to serve after graduation.

What does it even mean to join the Marines to get a job…isn’t that called enlisting?

I am sure they commissioned rather than enlisting. It actually offers decent pay, great benefits, and good networking. I am not at all surprised. Being a military office is prestigious, gets you a security clearance, and can open a lot of doors. It’s not “below” someone just because they’re an Ivy grad.

Don’t disagree…but those are kids that want a military career and you are an idiot to not talk to the military before starting college, because they will pay for it.

However, you don’t see one Wharton grad (not to mention 5) deciding to do it because they can’t get a job.

That’s your assumption. I have no way of knowing whether that PP is embellishing it not, but it’s certainly not outside of the realm of possibility. Maybe there was a recruiting incentive. Maybe the Marines offered an enticing job in their field. Maybe they looked into it and saw the benefits. Maybe it really was their best option after considering all alternatives. Oh well, more power to them for serving!

There’s so much ignorance about the military. It’s not just a bunch of 18 year olds with nothing better to do with their lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did she look into patent examining?

+1

https://www.usajobs.gov/job/804333900

[Anonymous]

All depends on the internships/summer jobs. Our Humanities/Social Services kid, a college senior, already has a offer from the place he worked this summer to return FT after graduation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found the career center to be useless at my University.

She needs to wait tables or work at starbucks or work retail and keep applying.

She needs to be willing to relocate. A lot of the medical device companies are in the south and the economy is growing in the south. In my southern university town we have around 4 medical device companies that are always hiring entry level.

Talk to the military recruiters. They are always hiring from the Ivy colleges. My sister could not get a job when she graduated from Wharton (Univ of Penn). She ended up joining the Marines to get a job and there were about 4 classmates from Wharton who also joined the Marines at that time as they could not get jobs.

I have literally never heard of a Wharton grad that joined the Marines to get a job. I know ROTC kids that have to serve after graduation.

What does it even mean to join the Marines to get a job…isn’t that called enlisting?

I am sure they commissioned rather than enlisting. It actually offers decent pay, great benefits, and good networking. I am not at all surprised. Being a military office is prestigious, gets you a security clearance, and can open a lot of doors. It’s not “below” someone just because they’re an Ivy grad.

Don’t disagree…but those are kids that want a military career and you are an idiot to not talk to the military before starting college, because they will pay for it.

However, you don’t see one Wharton grad (not to mention 5) deciding to do it because they can’t get a job.

That’s your assumption. I have no way of knowing whether that PP is embellishing it not, but it’s certainly not outside of the realm of possibility. Maybe there was a recruiting incentive. Maybe the Marines offered an enticing job in their field. Maybe they looked into it and saw the benefits. Maybe it really was their best option after considering all alternatives. Oh well, more power to them for serving!

There’s so much ignorance about the military. It’s not just a bunch of 18 year olds with nothing better to do with their lives.

No…but as a Wharton grad that never saw nor heard of a single kid go into the military due to the job market…it seems highly improbable.

I am not railing against the military or someone that chooses that career, but why you insist it is a reasonable statement is strange.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Connections count for more than an Ivy brand. That is just life. I excelled at schools that you would deem inferior, but immediately kicked a$$ in the real world. Also in STEM, I focused on nurturing connections in my field. My family couldn’t help me. Why didn’t your DD make adequate connections through her internship?

Well, smug post of the year award right here.

Not everyone Know that they have to, or are good at, “making connections. This is not intuitive in a time when you are told good grades and ECs = jobs and money.

But you know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found the career center to be useless at my University.

She needs to wait tables or work at starbucks or work retail and keep applying.

She needs to be willing to relocate. A lot of the medical device companies are in the south and the economy is growing in the south. In my southern university town we have around 4 medical device companies that are always hiring entry level.

Talk to the military recruiters. They are always hiring from the Ivy colleges. My sister could not get a job when she graduated from Wharton (Univ of Penn). She ended up joining the Marines to get a job and there were about 4 classmates from Wharton who also joined the Marines at that time as they could not get jobs.

I have literally never heard of a Wharton grad that joined the Marines to get a job. I know ROTC kids that have to serve after graduation.

What does it even mean to join the Marines to get a job…isn’t that called enlisting?

I am sure they commissioned rather than enlisting. It actually offers decent pay, great benefits, and good networking. I am not at all surprised. Being a military office is prestigious, gets you a security clearance, and can open a lot of doors. It’s not “below” someone just because they’re an Ivy grad.

Don’t disagree…but those are kids that want a military career and you are an idiot to not talk to the military before starting college, because they will pay for it.

However, you don’t see one Wharton grad (not to mention 5) deciding to do it because they can’t get a job.

That’s your assumption. I have no way of knowing whether that PP is embellishing it not, but it’s certainly not outside of the realm of possibility. Maybe there was a recruiting incentive. Maybe the Marines offered an enticing job in their field. Maybe they looked into it and saw the benefits. Maybe it really was their best option after considering all alternatives. Oh well, more power to them for serving!

There’s so much ignorance about the military. It’s not just a bunch of 18 year olds with nothing better to do with their lives.

No…but as a Wharton grad that never saw nor heard of a single kid go into the military due to the job market…it seems highly improbable.

I am not railing against the military or someone that chooses that career, but why you insist it is a reasonable statement is strange.

It’s weird that you think it’s not a reasonable statement. I don’t profess to know what each of my classmates did after graduation, much less those who came before or after me. But go on trying to discredit the PP, who I doubt has any reason to lie about their sibling and just made a suggestion. It just makes you sound like a snobby Wharton grad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Connections count for more than an Ivy brand. That is just life. I excelled at schools that you would deem inferior, but immediately kicked a$$ in the real world. Also in STEM, I focused on nurturing connections in my field. My family couldn’t help me. Why didn’t your DD make adequate connections through her internship?

Well, smug post of the year award right here.

Not everyone Know that they have to, or are good at, “making connections. This is not intuitive in a time when you are told good grades and ECs = jobs and money.

But you know this.

Who is saying good grades and ECs = jobs? I told my kid first semester freshman year to get decent grades but focus on building your peer and alumni network more than getting a 4.0.

So far so good with internships and offers.

If your kid is going to med school or getting a PhD that’s one thing…for all others, you need to balance grades with making connections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found the career center to be useless at my University.

She needs to wait tables or work at starbucks or work retail and keep applying.

She needs to be willing to relocate. A lot of the medical device companies are in the south and the economy is growing in the south. In my southern university town we have around 4 medical device companies that are always hiring entry level.

Talk to the military recruiters. They are always hiring from the Ivy colleges. My sister could not get a job when she graduated from Wharton (Univ of Penn). She ended up joining the Marines to get a job and there were about 4 classmates from Wharton who also joined the Marines at that time as they could not get jobs.

I have literally never heard of a Wharton grad that joined the Marines to get a job. I know ROTC kids that have to serve after graduation.

What does it even mean to join the Marines to get a job…isn’t that called enlisting?

I am sure they commissioned rather than enlisting. It actually offers decent pay, great benefits, and good networking. I am not at all surprised. Being a military office is prestigious, gets you a security clearance, and can open a lot of doors. It’s not “below” someone just because they’re an Ivy grad.

Don’t disagree…but those are kids that want a military career and you are an idiot to not talk to the military before starting college, because they will pay for it.

However, you don’t see one Wharton grad (not to mention 5) deciding to do it because they can’t get a job.

That’s your assumption. I have no way of knowing whether that PP is embellishing it not, but it’s certainly not outside of the realm of possibility. Maybe there was a recruiting incentive. Maybe the Marines offered an enticing job in their field. Maybe they looked into it and saw the benefits. Maybe it really was their best option after considering all alternatives. Oh well, more power to them for serving!

There’s so much ignorance about the military. It’s not just a bunch of 18 year olds with nothing better to do with their lives.

No…but as a Wharton grad that never saw nor heard of a single kid go into the military due to the job market…it seems highly improbable.

I am not railing against the military or someone that chooses that career, but why you insist it is a reasonable statement is strange.

It’s weird that you think it’s not a reasonable statement. I don’t profess to know what each of my classmates did after graduation, much less those who came before or after me. But go on trying to discredit the PP, who I doubt has any reason to lie about their sibling and just made a suggestion. It just makes you sound like a snobby Wharton grad.

No just makes you sound like a fool…but that’s fine. But sure…go ahead and believe there are lots of Ivy graduates joining the Marines because of the job market. Wanted to work for Goldman, but joining th Marines because I can’t get a job.

You keep missing the point entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I dunno. Im hiring stem grads and cant find many qualified. 3.5 and up GPA, good class experience and willing to work in person every day. And this is for $80k and up.

Where? We aren't seeing it. Parent here with kid who graduated in 3 years in stem with high gpa and isn't finding this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD recently graduated from an Ivy with a degree in Biomedical Engineering with an internship in her junior, and she is still looking for a permanent job. She has been looking for a job since January 2024. She also has twelve friends from HS, five from Ivies, four from UVA, and three from Virginia Tech, which also graduated in 2024. Of those twelve friends, eight are still looking for jobs. Those four that actually have jobs, they get them through family connections. Two have jobs with a government contractor because their father/mother is a fed SES in the government. The other two have jobs because their uncle/aunt is SVP in the company. My DD is very depressed at the moment. I feel so helpless that I am not in a position to help my DD and her friends.

OP, I'm going to be blunt. It's time for Precious and her friends to get off their asses and start waiting tables, working in retail, babysitting, or doing something else that is going to feel entirely worthless and beneath them.

I know your DD has been fawned over for years for having an Ivy degree in biomedical engineering, but you are doing her no favors by continuing to let her believe she and her friends are so much better and smarter and more deserving than every other college grad out there. The real world is upon them. Sorry it's tough out there.

[Anonymous]

I'm having a hard time believing she can't get an entry level job at Astra Zeneca.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I dunno. Im hiring stem grads and cant find many qualified. 3.5 and up GPA, good class experience and willing to work in person every day. And this is for $80k and up.

Where? We aren't seeing it. Parent here with kid who graduated in 3 years in stem with high gpa and isn't finding this.

Three years is a weird time to graduate. I say that as my niece and nephew did that 3 year thing and you are the age on an intern and not graduating with your class. Harder to find a job. My niece did find a job but she is 20 living at home and HS class of 2021 and not old enough to drink and does not own a car. I mean when I was in B4 we drive to clients, drive on on business trips, took clients to lunch and had happy hours and cocktail party type events. I would assume under 21 is a tough sell for my Niece at my old B4 company. If she had stayed and graduated with her class and 21 be better. She did find something. But she has same major as my daughter who started at a 30K higher salary. My daughter lives in the City, walking distance to work, was about to turn 22 when started and her job involved a lot of traveling, meeting clients and work dinners. Not something I think she could do at 20.