NY 16 Primary: Bowman vs. Latimer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This just shows that the left is serious about governance and moderating the party to serve a broad coalition of Americans.
It’s a shame republicans can’t do the same.
Lauren Boebert won her primary yesterday.

This is a huge takeaway of the primary that is not getting due attention. Democrats are reigning in extremism, GOP still embracing it.

[Anonymous]

Not loosing any sleep about this one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: They are grifters because they aren’t serious about governance but they love the paycheck and clout.
Maybe they aren’t as destructive as MAGA, but they aren’t great. They aren’t smart and they aren’t productive.
The democrats have a deep bench of serious, smart, and talented people.
They aren’t on that list.

Bowman lost because American Jews, in large abundance in his district, voted for the interests of a foreign country.

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. People are sick and tired of the progressive left. This is just the beginning.

He was just a weak candidate, for a lot of reasons, but one of which is that he was a kooky conspiracy theorist. The other candidate was also well-known and well-liked, at least to the voters there.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/politics/jamaal-bowman-9-11-blog-post/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/member-of-house-squad-rep-jamaal-bowman-spread-9-11-conspiracy-theories-as-nyc-principal/ar-BB1huOSN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. People are sick and tired of the progressive left. This is just the beginning.

He was just a weak candidate, for a lot of reasons, but one of which is that he was a kooky conspiracy theorist. The other candidate was also well-known and well-liked, at least to the voters there.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/politics/jamaal-bowman-9-11-blog-post/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/member-of-house-squad-rep-jamaal-bowman-spread-9-11-conspiracy-theories-as-nyc-principal/ar-BB1huOSN

No he wasn’t a weak candidate. The corrupt, occupied party redrew his district maps momths before the primary to shift the demographics. Then they spent $25M on propaganda - that’s more than all candidates in Uk spent for their upcoming parliamentary elections.

We see you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. People are sick and tired of the progressive left. This is just the beginning.

He was just a weak candidate, for a lot of reasons, but one of which is that he was a kooky conspiracy theorist. The other candidate was also well-known and well-liked, at least to the voters there.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/politics/jamaal-bowman-9-11-blog-post/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/member-of-house-squad-rep-jamaal-bowman-spread-9-11-conspiracy-theories-as-nyc-principal/ar-BB1huOSN

No he wasn’t a weak candidate. The corrupt, occupied party redrew his district maps momths before the primary to shift the demographics. Then they spent $25M on propaganda - that’s more than all candidates in Uk spent for their upcoming parliamentary elections.

We see you.

Who exactly spent $25M on propaganda?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: They are grifters because they aren’t serious about governance but they love the paycheck and clout.
Maybe they aren’t as destructive as MAGA, but they aren’t great. They aren’t smart and they aren’t productive.
The democrats have a deep bench of serious, smart, and talented people.
They aren’t on that list.

Bowman lost because American Jews, in large abundance in his district, voted for the interests of a foreign country.

Nope.

Lol. No.

They did it and they are taking credit for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. People are sick and tired of the progressive left. This is just the beginning.

He was just a weak candidate, for a lot of reasons, but one of which is that he was a kooky conspiracy theorist. The other candidate was also well-known and well-liked, at least to the voters there.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/politics/jamaal-bowman-9-11-blog-post/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/member-of-house-squad-rep-jamaal-bowman-spread-9-11-conspiracy-theories-as-nyc-principal/ar-BB1huOSN

+1 Latimer had been the Westchester County Executive since flipping that seat in 2018 and was in the state assembly and Senate and on a local council before that. He’s a normal Democratic politician with a ton of name recognition who racked up a ton of local endorsements as soon as he got in the race, and after the redistricting was very likely to beat Bowman before AIPAC got involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. People are sick and tired of the progressive left. This is just the beginning.

He was just a weak candidate, for a lot of reasons, but one of which is that he was a kooky conspiracy theorist. The other candidate was also well-known and well-liked, at least to the voters there.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/politics/jamaal-bowman-9-11-blog-post/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/member-of-house-squad-rep-jamaal-bowman-spread-9-11-conspiracy-theories-as-nyc-principal/ar-BB1huOSN

+1 Latimer had been the Westchester County Executive since flipping that seat in 2018 and was in the state assembly and Senate and on a local council before that. He’s a normal Democratic politician with a ton of name recognition who racked up a ton of local endorsements as soon as he got in the race, and after the redistricting was very likely to beat Bowman before AIPAC got involved.

Yeah but the Jews, the Jews

/s

[Anonymous]

Democrats are in trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Democrats are in trouble.

Oh yes, what could spell more trouble than picking a very moderate popular candidate in the primary. Quelle horror!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. People are sick and tired of the progressive left. This is just the beginning.

He was just a weak candidate, for a lot of reasons, but one of which is that he was a kooky conspiracy theorist. The other candidate was also well-known and well-liked, at least to the voters there.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/politics/jamaal-bowman-9-11-blog-post/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/member-of-house-squad-rep-jamaal-bowman-spread-9-11-conspiracy-theories-as-nyc-principal/ar-BB1huOSN

+1 Latimer had been the Westchester County Executive since flipping that seat in 2018 and was in the state assembly and Senate and on a local council before that. He’s a normal Democratic politician with a ton of name recognition who racked up a ton of local endorsements as soon as he got in the race, and after the redistricting was very likely to beat Bowman before AIPAC got involved.

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. People are sick and tired of the progressive left. This is just the beginning.

He was just a weak candidate, for a lot of reasons, but one of which is that he was a kooky conspiracy theorist. The other candidate was also well-known and well-liked, at least to the voters there.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/30/politics/jamaal-bowman-9-11-blog-post/index.html

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/member-of-house-squad-rep-jamaal-bowman-spread-9-11-conspiracy-theories-as-nyc-principal/ar-BB1huOSN

No he wasn’t a weak candidate. The corrupt, occupied party redrew his district maps momths before the primary to shift the demographics. Then they spent $25M on propaganda - that’s more than all candidates in Uk spent for their upcoming parliamentary elections.

We see you.

Either you are not from metro NYC or even NYS, or you are but haven't been paying attention for the last 36 months. State Dems redrew CDs after '20 census. Bowman was still in a largely urban CD. State GOP sued. State courts ruled in favor of State GOP and assigned a special master or some similar title to redraw. That individual did a horrible job in redrawing metro NYC districts, but those were the lines candidates had to run under in ' 22. Bowman did win, but most likely b/c his two primary opponents split the suburban vote.

In the sense that "all politics are local," Bowman was a weak candidate in the sense that he didn't adapt to his new CD. He didn't take the time to build connections in the more suburban areas of his CD and he was pretty tone deaf after 10/7. NYC pols, just like any other where there are sizeable demographics of one ethnicity or another in their CD, must tend to those groups in order to be successful. Bowman was not in the wake of 10/7. Jewish constituents were desperate to get news about their families, help ones leave who are US citizens, understand the USG efforts, etc. Bowman seemed to take umbrage that somehow helping his Jewish constituents was disrespecting Palestinians. He could've done both, but he chose not to. Jewish progressives in his CD, previous supporters, tried to help him understand the dynamics. He seemed to get in the meeting, but not much longer than that.

TBH, I wish he was still in his original CD. To win in his new-ish one, however, he needed to adapt and he didn't. That's why he lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get ready for a red wave and Make America Great Again. Don’t fight it, embrace it.

Yeah, the picking of a very moderate Dem is def a harbinger of a red wave. Great analysis.

It will be the same red wave the faithful were predicting in 2022.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not loosing any sleep about this one.

But are you losing any sleep?