Why are men still expected to make the first move?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure it'll still be this way even a full Century from now or a full Millennium from now, as in, men normally being the ones to make the first move and ask the woman out and be the initiator in starting a relationship

They don't make the first move now. That's a myth.

Interesting how you're comfortable asserting an absolute like this despite multiple women on this thread relating they made the first move.

I suspect you have just never noticed when a woman makes the the first move. Of course, it could be women just aren't interested in you and your friends so you are bitter and disbelieving it could happen since it hasn't happened to you. I'm picking up Intel vibes from your post....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a feminist and believe women can and should ask men out… however, I never have. I like a man to show the confidence and wit and initiative it takes to ask me out. I expect to have to show the wit and intelligence to interact in such a way that he wants to ask me out. I also like a man who sometimes likes to be dominant in bed. My desire is very responsive to being desired (like most women, for better or worse). Meek, shy men can’t do this for me.

You are not a feminist. Feminists will go crazy when they hear you say thinks like you want your man to be dominant in bed

You don’t get to gatekeeper feminism, whether your comment was tongue in cheek or not.

NP here. We actually do get to gatekeep feminism and based on your initial comment you are not a feminist.

NP.
Let me help you out since you seem to be struggling with basic concepts:

fem·i·nism
noun
the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

Don’t you dare shame women for wanting a man to ask them out or even to be dominant in bed. Next you will be advocating for women to not be allowed to stay home with kids or cook dinner even if they want to. If you’re not joking, you’ve gone off the deep end. No wonder men suck so bad nowadays.
-signed progressive feminist

Same poster. You are also not a feminist. PP can want a man to ask her out. That's not feminist. Nothing in her post is feminist. That's okay not all women are feminists.

You must be young. I'm old enough to remember feminism and not have this confusion the current generations have. Nothing the original PP said goes against feminism. Maybe it's your understanding of it? What's your definition?

It does. It's not feminism. You can think the sky is green and the moon is made of cheese if you want to doesn't make it so.

Still waiting on your definition....🤔

[Anonymous]

Because confidence is attractive. Women don’t like wimps.

[Anonymous]

Yeah because nobody cares about a woman's confidence that's not how men are attracted to women and I'm saying that because men are stuck with this gender role whether we like it or not.

That's why there will always be more male Wizards than female Wizards

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP is not wrong. While some of you have had women who made the first move good for you. In the real word though men are still expected to ask a girl out. Men are still expected to propose to a woman. Lets us not use outliers and claim that it's equal because it is not.

Because men don't like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If women are so independent and self sufficient these days why are men still the ones expected to make the first move? If a woman likes a guy what's preventing her asking him out? If she wants to be his wife what's preventing her from asking him to marry her?

Are we?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If women are so independent and self sufficient these days why are men still the ones expected to make the first move? If a woman likes a guy what's preventing her asking him out? If she wants to be his wife what's preventing her from asking him to marry her?

Who told you this misinformation ?

[Anonymous]

Nature and reality isn't fair that's why, if men who feel this is unfair they will often use the counterpart and argue and say that this has got to suck for women in which men will be less inspired to pursue them and chase them or approach them as their looks fade and also their fertility starts dropping once they realize their 30s, which makes them feel rushed to find the right man before it's too late

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re a man and have never had a woman make a first move with you, that’s a you problem. Do you have friends who can tell you the honest truth?

Lol, the vast majority of men will never be approached by a woman no matter how much effort they put in. You have to be really above average looking (genetically speaking) to get approached by women, or simply right place right time and be very lucky. I’ve been with a lot of women but had to make the first move 100% of the time.

Women don’t make the first move for a number of reasons but the biggest is because they don’t have to, men are way hornier and desperate in general so they’re more motivated to risk rejection and embarrassment vs women who naturally have lower sex drives and levels of promiscuity

You are so close to getting it!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure it'll still be this way even a full Century from now or a full Millennium from now, as in, men normally being the ones to make the first move and ask the woman out and be the initiator in starting a relationship

They don't make the first move now. That's a myth.

Interesting how you're comfortable asserting an absolute like this despite multiple women on this thread relating they made the first move.

I suspect you have just never noticed when a woman makes the the first move. Of course, it could be women just aren't interested in you and your friends so you are bitter and disbelieving it could happen since it hasn't happened to you. I'm picking up Intel vibes from your post....

You might want to brush up on your reading comprehension. Agrresive and wrong.

[Anonymous]

In case you haven’t noticed men have such low expectations for themselves they aren’t doing much at all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In case you haven’t noticed men have such low expectations for themselves they aren’t doing much at all

Yeah I think even reports have been going on for the past few years now that been have been approaching women a lot less

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In case you haven’t noticed men have such low expectations for themselves they aren’t doing much at all

Yeah I think even reports have been going on for the past few years now that been have been approaching women a lot less

This is a GOOD thing. Fewer creepers and we get to choose who WE want.

[Anonymous]

I'm pretty sure the creepers are going to keep creeping but the normal dudes are making fewer approaches

[Anonymous]

Very powerful video discusses it:
https://youtu.be/5RI6-etJSmo?si=nwRpxiwwS60nJylX