Why are men still expected to make the first move?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I made the first move on my husband. We had been friends for a couple of years and finally I decided to do something about it. That was 34 years ago.

This is similar to our story. We were friends and I didn't want to mess with the friendship. She did something about it. Married 20 years now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately OP the average man unlike the average woman will not have a woman approaching him. These men being approached by women are often very charismatic charming attractive etc. Women have the opposite problem any bozo will approach them.

A shy woman will be approached for example but a shy man never. If you are a man who is shy skinny good luck your only option is OLD. Dating is brutal.

Handsome shy men are approached often. Ugly shy men are not. Same as beautiful vs ugly women.

+1. I am very shy but handsome and attractive. While women do not approach me everyday women have approached me in the past and that's how I met my current girlfriend.

[Anonymous]

Not directly related to OP's question but is it me or do intoxicated women forget about boundaries? The number of times drunk women have felt the need to touch me comment on my body get super close touchy and all is insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a feminist and believe women can and should ask men out… however, I never have. I like a man to show the confidence and wit and initiative it takes to ask me out. I expect to have to show the wit and intelligence to interact in such a way that he wants to ask me out. I also like a man who sometimes likes to be dominant in bed. My desire is very responsive to being desired (like most women, for better or worse). Meek, shy men can’t do this for me.

You are not a feminist. Feminists will go crazy when they hear you say thinks like you want your man to be dominant in bed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Few woman want to be with a man so fragile that he can’t ask her out.

Alpha predators are so retro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a feminist and believe women can and should ask men out… however, I never have. I like a man to show the confidence and wit and initiative it takes to ask me out. I expect to have to show the wit and intelligence to interact in such a way that he wants to ask me out. I also like a man who sometimes likes to be dominant in bed. My desire is very responsive to being desired (like most women, for better or worse). Meek, shy men can’t do this for me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a feminist and believe women can and should ask men out… however, I never have. I like a man to show the confidence and wit and initiative it takes to ask me out. I expect to have to show the wit and intelligence to interact in such a way that he wants to ask me out. I also like a man who sometimes likes to be dominant in bed. My desire is very responsive to being desired (like most women, for better or worse). Meek, shy men can’t do this for me.

You are not a feminist. Feminists will go crazy when they hear you say thinks like you want your man to be dominant in bed

You don’t get to gatekeeper feminism, whether your comment was tongue in cheek or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Few woman want to be with a man so fragile that he can’t ask her out.

Alpha predators are so retro.

Asking someone on a date makes you an alpha predator? Lemme guess, you’re an OG team member of the victim Olympics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a feminist and believe women can and should ask men out… however, I never have. I like a man to show the confidence and wit and initiative it takes to ask me out. I expect to have to show the wit and intelligence to interact in such a way that he wants to ask me out. I also like a man who sometimes likes to be dominant in bed. My desire is very responsive to being desired (like most women, for better or worse). Meek, shy men can’t do this for me.

You are not a feminist. Feminists will go crazy when they hear you say thinks like you want your man to be dominant in bed

You don’t get to gatekeeper feminism, whether your comment was tongue in cheek or not.

NP here. We actually do get to gatekeep feminism and based on your initial comment you are not a feminist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a feminist and believe women can and should ask men out… however, I never have. I like a man to show the confidence and wit and initiative it takes to ask me out. I expect to have to show the wit and intelligence to interact in such a way that he wants to ask me out. I also like a man who sometimes likes to be dominant in bed. My desire is very responsive to being desired (like most women, for better or worse). Meek, shy men can’t do this for me.

You are not a feminist. Feminists will go crazy when they hear you say thinks like you want your man to be dominant in bed

You don’t get to gatekeeper feminism, whether your comment was tongue in cheek or not.

NP here. We actually do get to gatekeep feminism and based on your initial comment you are not a feminist.

NP.
Let me help you out since you seem to be struggling with basic concepts:

fem·i·nism
noun
the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

Don’t you dare shame women for wanting a man to ask them out or even to be dominant in bed. Next you will be advocating for women to not be allowed to stay home with kids or cook dinner even if they want to. If you’re not joking, you’ve gone off the deep end. No wonder men suck so bad nowadays.
-signed progressive feminist

[Anonymous]

They're not expected to and women do ask men out.

[Anonymous]

Why are women expected to birth children? I mean WTF?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a feminist and believe women can and should ask men out… however, I never have. I like a man to show the confidence and wit and initiative it takes to ask me out. I expect to have to show the wit and intelligence to interact in such a way that he wants to ask me out. I also like a man who sometimes likes to be dominant in bed. My desire is very responsive to being desired (like most women, for better or worse). Meek, shy men can’t do this for me.

You are not a feminist. Feminists will go crazy when they hear you say thinks like you want your man to be dominant in bed

You don’t get to gatekeeper feminism, whether your comment was tongue in cheek or not.

NP here. We actually do get to gatekeep feminism and based on your initial comment you are not a feminist.

NP.
Let me help you out since you seem to be struggling with basic concepts:

fem·i·nism
noun
the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

Don’t you dare shame women for wanting a man to ask them out or even to be dominant in bed. Next you will be advocating for women to not be allowed to stay home with kids or cook dinner even if they want to. If you’re not joking, you’ve gone off the deep end. No wonder men suck so bad nowadays.
-signed progressive feminist

Same poster. You are also not a feminist. PP can want a man to ask her out. That's not feminist. Nothing in her post is feminist. That's okay not all women are feminists.

[Anonymous]

Man here, in 50s, get attention.

Disagree, woman will make the 1st move sometimes. If I was a woman, why on earth wouldn’t I want to do this when others don’t?

Of course, it is nervy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a feminist and believe women can and should ask men out… however, I never have. I like a man to show the confidence and wit and initiative it takes to ask me out. I expect to have to show the wit and intelligence to interact in such a way that he wants to ask me out. I also like a man who sometimes likes to be dominant in bed. My desire is very responsive to being desired (like most women, for better or worse). Meek, shy men can’t do this for me.

You are not a feminist. Feminists will go crazy when they hear you say thinks like you want your man to be dominant in bed

You don’t get to gatekeeper feminism, whether your comment was tongue in cheek or not.

NP here. We actually do get to gatekeep feminism and based on your initial comment you are not a feminist.

NP.
Let me help you out since you seem to be struggling with basic concepts:

fem·i·nism
noun
the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

Don’t you dare shame women for wanting a man to ask them out or even to be dominant in bed. Next you will be advocating for women to not be allowed to stay home with kids or cook dinner even if they want to. If you’re not joking, you’ve gone off the deep end. No wonder men suck so bad nowadays.
-signed progressive feminist

Same poster. You are also not a feminist. PP can want a man to ask her out. That's not feminist. Nothing in her post is feminist. That's okay not all women are feminists.

You must be young. I'm old enough to remember feminism and not have this confusion the current generations have. Nothing the original PP said goes against feminism. Maybe it's your understanding of it? What's your definition?