Why are men still expected to make the first move?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately OP the average man unlike the average woman will not have a woman approaching him. These men being approached by women are often very charismatic charming attractive etc. Women have the opposite problem any bozo will approach them.


A shy woman will be approached for example but a shy man never. If you are a man who is shy skinny good luck your only option is OLD. Dating is brutal.


Handsome shy men are approached often. Ugly shy men are not. Same as beautiful vs ugly women.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Never had a woman asks me out. I would love it though . Where are the places I need to go for this to happen. The bar? The club? At work? Please let me know and I'll.be at these places. Haven't had much luck on OLD.


Maybe best that you find friends with gfs and then ask them to recommend dates to you. Have apartment parties. Talk to people at work. Enlarge your social circle so that prospective dates enter the picture.

If you want a woman to invite you out, it might need to be pretend platonic first. So you need plausible reasons to hang out.

Most of the people I know met their spouse at school, at work, or through friends.

Meeting guys at bars and clubs is a bit of a security risk. You might get a number, not a date out of those places.
Anonymous
Women make the first move all the time. If you haven't experienced it, maybe it's you.

Often times men make the first move involves significant social extension, but only after receiving multiple signals that it will be well-received.

Women want to date someone with a little bit of social skills, a little bit of confidence, and a little bit of planning ability. A little bit of motivation. It's not too high a bar for most men.
Anonymous
I made the first move on my husband. We had been friends for a couple of years and finally I decided to do something about it. That was 34 years ago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately OP the average man unlike the average woman will not have a woman approaching him. These men being approached by women are often very charismatic charming attractive etc. Women have the opposite problem any bozo will approach them.


A shy woman will be approached for example but a shy man never. If you are a man who is shy skinny good luck your only option is OLD. Dating is brutal.


Handsome shy men are approached often. Ugly shy men are not. Same as beautiful vs ugly women.


This is true. Guy I am talking to says he is used to women pursuing him not the other way around. He said it's women who always asked him out.

He says pursuing me is new to him. Whatever I'm prettier than him and prettier than the heffas who lower themselves to ask a man out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son’s current gf made the first move. He’d never have done it himself.


What was her move ?
Anonymous
I think many women would like to be able to make the first move, but unfortunately men lose interest when we do.
Anonymous
I like it the way it is. I wouldn't want to deal with women hitting on me that I'm not interested in dating. I'd rather do the choosing and approaching.
Anonymous
As a woman, I have not ever nor will I ever put the move on a guy first or ask one out. Most I do is send out signals that I am open to conversation or being approached.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a woman, I have not ever nor will I ever put the move on a guy first or ask one out. Most I do is send out signals that I am open to conversation or being approached.


Bless your heart.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Never had a woman asks me out. I would love it though . Where are the places I need to go for this to happen. The bar? The club? At work? Please let me know and I'll.be at these places. Haven't had much luck on OLD.


Maybe best that you find friends with gfs and then ask them to recommend dates to you. Have apartment parties. Talk to people at work. Enlarge your social circle so that prospective dates enter the picture.

If you want a woman to invite you out, it might need to be pretend platonic first. So you need plausible reasons to hang out.

Most of the people I know met their spouse at school, at work, or through friends.

Meeting guys at bars and clubs is a bit of a security risk. You might get a number, not a date out of those places.


+1 You also need to be around people who don't have such traditional views about what is/is not appropriate for women (like 8:16). If you’re hanging out with traditionalist, your chance of being asked out are lowered - or, if you're a douche.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think many women would like to be able to make the first move, but unfortunately men lose interest when we do.


Maybe allow some space that perhaps they weren’t interested to begin with? Happens with guys all the time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If women are so independent and self sufficient these days why are men still the ones expected to make the first move? If a woman likes a guy what's preventing her asking him out? If she wants to be his wife what's preventing her from asking him to marry her?


Stop posting stupid hypotheticals.
What was that- 10+ fake Ops yesterday all just dumb whimsical questions like it’s late night at college.

Get some real friends Op. talk to them. In person.
Anonymous
I’m a feminist and believe women can and should ask men out… however, I never have. I like a man to show the confidence and wit and initiative it takes to ask me out. I expect to have to show the wit and intelligence to interact in such a way that he wants to ask me out. I also like a man who sometimes likes to be dominant in bed. My desire is very responsive to being desired (like most women, for better or worse). Meek, shy men can’t do this for me.
Anonymous
Few woman want to be with a man so fragile that he can’t ask her out.
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