Which clubs should get MLSNext?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out.

There you go, it is just that Amour was on Spring break this weekend! That is some dim-bulb axe-grinding.

Not the PP, but it actually seems like a legitimate possibility and not an axe grinding. Our club had several kids out. Maryland schools on different spring break than Virginia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out.

There you go, it is just that Amour was on Spring break this weekend! That is some dim-bulb axe-grinding.

Not the PP, but it actually seems like a legitimate possibility and not an axe grinding. Our club had several kids out. Maryland schools on different spring break than Virginia.

Only Frederick and Queen Anne's counties had spring break last week in MD Public Schools.

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Anonymous wrote:First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out.

There you go, it is just that Amour was on Spring break this weekend! That is some dim-bulb axe-grinding.

Not the PP, but it actually seems like a legitimate possibility and not an axe grinding. Our club had several kids out. Maryland schools on different spring break than Virginia.

Only Frederick and Queen Anne's counties had spring break last week in MD Public Schools.

And almost all of the private schools. So you basically confirmed that what the PP said is a legitimate thought. Congratulations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out.

There you go, it is just that Amour was on Spring break this weekend! That is some dim-bulb axe-grinding.

Not the PP, but it actually seems like a legitimate possibility and not an axe grinding. Our club had several kids out. Maryland schools on different spring break than Virginia.

Only Frederick and Queen Anne's counties had spring break last week in MD Public Schools.

And almost all of the private schools. So you basically confirmed that what the PP said is a legitimate thought. Congratulations.

Wouldn't that be the same in VA? private schools set their own breaks. Are you saying MD private schools do it as a collective? Why bend over backwards to find an excuse for a .500 weekend?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out.

There you go, it is just that Amour was on Spring break this weekend! That is some dim-bulb axe-grinding.

Not the PP, but it actually seems like a legitimate possibility and not an axe grinding. Our club had several kids out. Maryland schools on different spring break than Virginia.

Only Frederick and Queen Anne's counties had spring break last week in MD Public Schools.

And almost all of the private schools. So you basically confirmed that what the PP said is a legitimate thought. Congratulations.

Wouldn't that be the same in VA? private schools set their own breaks. Are you saying MD private schools do it as a collective? Why bend over backwards to find an excuse for a .500 weekend?

You're right...the Alexandria teams are dominant. I don't know why anyone wouldn't drive 100 miles to put their kids there. Keep drinking the KoolAid and paying your director $340K per year. It's working so well. Also very impressed with that college commitment list they have. The rest of our kids can only dream about playing at Randolph & Macon.

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Anonymous wrote:First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out.

There you go, it is just that Amour was on Spring break this weekend! That is some dim-bulb axe-grinding.

Not the PP, but it actually seems like a legitimate possibility and not an axe grinding. Our club had several kids out. Maryland schools on different spring break than Virginia.

Only Frederick and Queen Anne's counties had spring break last week in MD Public Schools.

And almost all of the private schools. So you basically confirmed that what the PP said is a legitimate thought. Congratulations.

Wouldn't that be the same in VA? private schools set their own breaks. Are you saying MD private schools do it as a collective? Why bend over backwards to find an excuse for a .500 weekend?

You're right...the Alexandria teams are dominant. I don't know why anyone wouldn't drive 100 miles to put their kids there. Keep drinking the KoolAid and paying your director $340K per year. It's working so well. Also very impressed with that college commitment list they have. The rest of our kids can only dream about playing at Randolph & Macon.

Ok. We got there. Why did you try to act like you had rational arguments before?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why bend over backwards to find an excuse for a .500 weekend?

I know, right? Strange. A more likely explanation is critical players getting moved on to the academies, for both clubs. Hard to replace them!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why bend over backwards to find an excuse for a .500 weekend?

I know, right? Strange. A more likely explanation is critical players getting moved on to the academies, for both clubs. Hard to replace them!

What academies?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

Honest question. What is your interest in having the league pared down? Do you have a kid at another club and think the schedule is too easy? Is it a general opinion on the state of youth soccer in the area? Alexandria went 3-3 across all age groups against Baltimore Armour this weekend, with their most successful age group having a surprising loss. Does that change the opinion?

It doesn't seem like they're completely outclassed.

Since I posted the part you are responding to, I'll try to answer succinctly but not easy. First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out. Second, the coaching at Alexandria is a shit show. They hire completely unprofessional people and then assign them to two MLS Next teams, which is against the guidelines of MLS Next. Their 2011 team is an outlier of success, but they didn't play any of the academies in the fall and weren't steamrolling anyone. Not taking away from their success - just stating facts.
More broadly, MLS Next should be careful not to be diluted to the point of ECNL. There are some kids in that league and definitely in West Virginia, Achilles, and Alexandria who have zero chance of playing in college at a respectable level. Elite is elite...there's no need for a kid of average talent or skills to travel all up and down the east coast and beyond to get quality competition. Travel within 90 minutes and have a happier childhood.

Also, and I'm not going to look at all the teams' coaching slate, but I looked at one. Baltimore Armour has two coaches that have two teams each. This year and next year.

I don't know the landscape at Armour, but two wrongs don't make a right. In terms of my interest...how about a genuine desire to see youth development be more about youth development than trophy collections and money makers. Isn't that what most of us should care about?

I had some time to check into this and confirm that having two teams is not out of the norm for MLS Next programs/coaches. Here are the coaching staffs I had time to check out:

PDA, Ironbound, and SYC I couldn't find quickly
TSF - 3 coaches for 6 teams
Real Jersey - U13 and U14 same coaches; U15 and U16 same coaches
Bethesda has one coach with 2 MLS Next teams, Two MLS Next coaches that also have another non-MLS team, 1 that has one MLS Next team, and Philip Gyau who does a lot more than coach his one MLS Next team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

Honest question. What is your interest in having the league pared down? Do you have a kid at another club and think the schedule is too easy? Is it a general opinion on the state of youth soccer in the area? Alexandria went 3-3 across all age groups against Baltimore Armour this weekend, with their most successful age group having a surprising loss. Does that change the opinion?

It doesn't seem like they're completely outclassed.

Since I posted the part you are responding to, I'll try to answer succinctly but not easy. First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out. Second, the coaching at Alexandria is a shit show. They hire completely unprofessional people and then assign them to two MLS Next teams, which is against the guidelines of MLS Next. Their 2011 team is an outlier of success, but they didn't play any of the academies in the fall and weren't steamrolling anyone. Not taking away from their success - just stating facts.
More broadly, MLS Next should be careful not to be diluted to the point of ECNL. There are some kids in that league and definitely in West Virginia, Achilles, and Alexandria who have zero chance of playing in college at a respectable level. Elite is elite...there's no need for a kid of average talent or skills to travel all up and down the east coast and beyond to get quality competition. Travel within 90 minutes and have a happier childhood.

Also, and I'm not going to look at all the teams' coaching slate, but I looked at one. Baltimore Armour has two coaches that have two teams each. This year and next year.

I don't know the landscape at Armour, but two wrongs don't make a right. In terms of my interest...how about a genuine desire to see youth development be more about youth development than trophy collections and money makers. Isn't that what most of us should care about?

I had some time to check into this and confirm that having two teams is not out of the norm for MLS Next programs/coaches. Here are the coaching staffs I had time to check out:

PDA, Ironbound, and SYC I couldn't find quickly
TSF - 3 coaches for 6 teams
Real Jersey - U13 and U14 same coaches; U15 and U16 same coaches
Bethesda has one coach with 2 MLS Next teams, Two MLS Next coaches that also have another non-MLS team, 1 that has one MLS Next team, and Philip Gyau who does a lot more than coach his one MLS Next team.

FC Delco - 2 teams per coach

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MLS NXT should just be MLS Academy teams.

Dumbest comment ever.

Prob scared that addl competition will squeeze out their DS from their academy perch.

Cities outside of the US comparable in size to the DMV area can sustain a few soccer clubs. There are many players in this area not on DCU that are as good and will find a way to maximize their soccer potential.

More competition is good!

Seems a lot more emotions than logic in this retort

Many think players scouted and not selected by DCU are "as good" as who were selected. Opinion.
Just remember, DCU doesn't choose lightly which kids to invest tens of thousands of dollars per year.
They also have more than just current performance on their criteria list. Future exceptional performance potential is important, along with their other requirements.

That said, there definitely has to be more than just MLS Professional Academies in MLS Next, since there's only about 28 of them in the country.

Hold on their Smitty, ‘invest’ is a very strong term. DC united barely invests in the turf at Serge. Instead, I would say warehouse.

Know DC united academy kids trying to depart it’s so lackluster. (MLS monopoly obviates these moves. But Nashville and Philly are standard bearers)

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Autocorrect strikes again.

*Segre - field where Academy practices mostly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MLS NXT should just be MLS Academy teams.

Dumbest comment ever.

Prob scared that addl competition will squeeze out their DS from their academy perch.

Cities outside of the US comparable in size to the DMV area can sustain a few soccer clubs. There are many players in this area not on DCU that are as good and will find a way to maximize their soccer potential.

More competition is good!

Seems a lot more emotions than logic in this retort

Many think players scouted and not selected by DCU are "as good" as who were selected. Opinion.
Just remember, DCU doesn't choose lightly which kids to invest tens of thousands of dollars per year.
They also have more than just current performance on their criteria list. Future exceptional performance potential is important, along with their other requirements.

That said, there definitely has to be more than just MLS Professional Academies in MLS Next, since there's only about 28 of them in the country.

Hold on their Smitty, ‘invest’ is a very strong term. DC united barely invests in the turf at Serge. Instead, I would say warehouse.

Know DC united academy kids trying to depart it’s so lackluster. (MLS monopoly obviates these moves. But Nashville and Philly are standard bearers)

You've written the same nonsense on different threads repeatedly.
Hasn't it been long enough since DCU rejected your kid? Time to get over it.

Yes, kids at DC United are constantly confiding in you that they are desperately trying to transfer to Alexandria

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out.

There you go, it is just that Amour was on Spring break this weekend! That is some dim-bulb axe-grinding.

Does anyone know when PA and DE spring breaks were? Alexandria was 3-1-2 against them this weekend and I'm trying to figure out which team should be kicked out of the league.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out.

There you go, it is just that Amour was on Spring break this weekend! That is some dim-bulb axe-grinding.

Does anyone know when PA and DE spring breaks were? Alexandria was 3-1-2 against them this weekend and I'm trying to figure out which team should be kicked out of the league.

Them being Sporting AC. sorry.