Which clubs should get MLSNext?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FVU now that they are essentially the Eastern and Northern Fairfax County soccer club for ECNL. Makes the most sense even if they don’t have a track record yet. The recruiting ground they cover is rich.

This makes sense. FVU is only older ECNL teams. It is not a “club” per se, but a joint venture among three clubs (McLean, Vienna and BRYC). Assuming the top players from those 3 clubs funnel into FVU, their teams should be very good, but it is too early to tell whether the concept will work as well as it looks on paper.

Brave and Union were so bad that ecnl made them merge. Please stop.

[Anonymous]

Brave and Union’s performance pre-FVU is irrelevant. If you take the top players from northern Fairfax County, the team should be very good. Next year will be a test of the thesis, but the OP was asking about new clubs, and FVU is a brand new club (it is independent from McLean, BRYC and VYS). Not many new clubs with that kind of recruiting.

[Anonymous]

I agree, then they can become one those MLS teams that every wonders how they could be MLS. Kinda like when Brave and Union were in ECNL and everyone wondered how an ECNL team could be this bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FVU now that they are essentially the Eastern and Northern Fairfax County soccer club for ECNL. Makes the most sense even if they don’t have a track record yet. The recruiting ground they cover is rich.

This makes sense. FVU is only older ECNL teams. It is not a “club” per se, but a joint venture among three clubs (McLean, Vienna and BRYC). Assuming the top players from those 3 clubs funnel into FVU, their teams should be very good, but it is too early to tell whether the concept will work as well as it looks on paper.

still will be garbage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

U13 West Virginia lost this past weekend to the U12 Red Bulls. The U14 West Virginia lost to the U13 Red Bulls, but at least that one was competitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

U13 West Virginia lost this past weekend to the U12 Red Bulls. The U14 West Virginia lost to the U13 Red Bulls, but at least that one was competitive.

Ahhh. thanks for this. I saw that score and wondered how WVU U14s were competitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

U13 West Virginia lost this past weekend to the U12 Red Bulls. The U14 West Virginia lost to the U13 Red Bulls, but at least that one was competitive.

Ahhh. thanks for this. I saw that score and wondered how WVU U14s were competitive.

Excellent move on the part of the Red Bulls. That's a good look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

Honest question. What is your interest in having the league pared down? Do you have a kid at another club and think the schedule is too easy? Is it a general opinion on the state of youth soccer in the area? Alexandria went 3-3 across all age groups against Baltimore Armour this weekend, with their most successful age group having a surprising loss. Does that change the opinion?

It doesn't seem like they're completely outclassed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

U13 West Virginia lost this past weekend to the U12 Red Bulls. The U14 West Virginia lost to the U13 Red Bulls, but at least that one was competitive.

Ahhh. thanks for this. I saw that score and wondered how WVU U14s were competitive.

Excellent move on the part of the Red Bulls. That's a good look.

Smart on their part. No sense having the U14s make that bus trip to win 10-0, the youngers get a a chance to play against older kids, and everyone gets to play competitive matches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

Honest question. What is your interest in having the league pared down? Do you have a kid at another club and think the schedule is too easy? Is it a general opinion on the state of youth soccer in the area? Alexandria went 3-3 across all age groups against Baltimore Armour this weekend, with their most successful age group having a surprising loss. Does that change the opinion?

It doesn't seem like they're completely outclassed.

Since I posted the part you are responding to, I'll try to answer succinctly but not easy. First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out. Second, the coaching at Alexandria is a shit show. They hire completely unprofessional people and then assign them to two MLS Next teams, which is against the guidelines of MLS Next. Their 2011 team is an outlier of success, but they didn't play any of the academies in the fall and weren't steamrolling anyone. Not taking away from their success - just stating facts.
More broadly, MLS Next should be careful not to be diluted to the point of ECNL. There are some kids in that league and definitely in West Virginia, Achilles, and Alexandria who have zero chance of playing in college at a respectable level. Elite is elite...there's no need for a kid of average talent or skills to travel all up and down the east coast and beyond to get quality competition. Travel within 90 minutes and have a happier childhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

Honest question. What is your interest in having the league pared down? Do you have a kid at another club and think the schedule is too easy? Is it a general opinion on the state of youth soccer in the area? Alexandria went 3-3 across all age groups against Baltimore Armour this weekend, with their most successful age group having a surprising loss. Does that change the opinion?

It doesn't seem like they're completely outclassed.

Since I posted the part you are responding to, I'll try to answer succinctly but not easy. First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out. Second, the coaching at Alexandria is a shit show. They hire completely unprofessional people and then assign them to two MLS Next teams, which is against the guidelines of MLS Next. Their 2011 team is an outlier of success, but they didn't play any of the academies in the fall and weren't steamrolling anyone. Not taking away from their success - just stating facts.
More broadly, MLS Next should be careful not to be diluted to the point of ECNL. There are some kids in that league and definitely in West Virginia, Achilles, and Alexandria who have zero chance of playing in college at a respectable level. Elite is elite...there's no need for a kid of average talent or skills to travel all up and down the east coast and beyond to get quality competition. Travel within 90 minutes and have a happier childhood.

You didn't answer the question of what your interest is at all. I'm guessing from all the advice and warnings that you're doing it out of concern for kids and general magnanimity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

Honest question. What is your interest in having the league pared down? Do you have a kid at another club and think the schedule is too easy? Is it a general opinion on the state of youth soccer in the area? Alexandria went 3-3 across all age groups against Baltimore Armour this weekend, with their most successful age group having a surprising loss. Does that change the opinion?

It doesn't seem like they're completely outclassed.

Since I posted the part you are responding to, I'll try to answer succinctly but not easy. First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out. Second, the coaching at Alexandria is a shit show. They hire completely unprofessional people and then assign them to two MLS Next teams, which is against the guidelines of MLS Next. Their 2011 team is an outlier of success, but they didn't play any of the academies in the fall and weren't steamrolling anyone. Not taking away from their success - just stating facts.
More broadly, MLS Next should be careful not to be diluted to the point of ECNL. There are some kids in that league and definitely in West Virginia, Achilles, and Alexandria who have zero chance of playing in college at a respectable level. Elite is elite...there's no need for a kid of average talent or skills to travel all up and down the east coast and beyond to get quality competition. Travel within 90 minutes and have a happier childhood.

Also, and I'm not going to look at all the teams' coaching slate, but I looked at one. Baltimore Armour has two coaches that have two teams each. This year and next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

Honest question. What is your interest in having the league pared down? Do you have a kid at another club and think the schedule is too easy? Is it a general opinion on the state of youth soccer in the area? Alexandria went 3-3 across all age groups against Baltimore Armour this weekend, with their most successful age group having a surprising loss. Does that change the opinion?

It doesn't seem like they're completely outclassed.

Since I posted the part you are responding to, I'll try to answer succinctly but not easy. First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out. Second, the coaching at Alexandria is a shit show. They hire completely unprofessional people and then assign them to two MLS Next teams, which is against the guidelines of MLS Next. Their 2011 team is an outlier of success, but they didn't play any of the academies in the fall and weren't steamrolling anyone. Not taking away from their success - just stating facts.
More broadly, MLS Next should be careful not to be diluted to the point of ECNL. There are some kids in that league and definitely in West Virginia, Achilles, and Alexandria who have zero chance of playing in college at a respectable level. Elite is elite...there's no need for a kid of average talent or skills to travel all up and down the east coast and beyond to get quality competition. Travel within 90 minutes and have a happier childhood.

Also, and I'm not going to look at all the teams' coaching slate, but I looked at one. Baltimore Armour has two coaches that have two teams each. This year and next year.

I don't know the landscape at Armour, but two wrongs don't make a right. In terms of my interest...how about a genuine desire to see youth development be more about youth development than trophy collections and money makers. Isn't that what most of us should care about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First, I'd warn you against taking a weekend - particularly one during or at the end of spring break when kids with Baltimore Armour may have been out.

There you go, it is just that Amour was on Spring break this weekend! That is some dim-bulb axe-grinding.

[Anonymous]

Nice plug EM

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for additional MLS Next teams in the area. Not everyone is an elite player. West Virginia should have never been let in. Achilles and Alexandria need to be shown the door.

second that, include SYC

Are the SYC teams also always in the bottom 3?

All SYC teams qualified to MLS Playoffs, they are the only club in the DMV to have every team qualify