Report of a massive fight at Clarksburg HS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how administration can conduct performance reviews when there are mental health, safety concerns , and retaliation for reporting concerns that teachers have. We are just put between a rock and a hard place at every situation and we get no support, low pay, and further no fair playing field for us to demonstrate our abilities as there is no autonomy. Just us pushing mgmts flawed resource depleted curriculum( or lack there of). It's just not a respected profession.

Most teachers are paid decently for a 10 month job. The other staff like bus drivers, support staff, etc are not paid well.

This again.

Come teach for a year and see if you feel the same way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:B-CC Parents say "Oh Please"

Certainly not. How dumb are you? This BCC parent says we need to band together and pressure the Board and MCPS to keep violent students OUT of our schools!!!

We need to pay for expanded alternate schools for these kids. They do not belong in mainstream schools. Period.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC Parents say "Oh Please"

Certainly not. How dumb are you? This BCC parent says we need to band together and pressure the Board and MCPS to keep violent students OUT of our schools!!!

We need to pay for expanded alternate schools for these kids. They do not belong in mainstream schools. Period.

This. The only way out of this is to have a massive group of parents show up at every BOE meeting and speak out against what's happening. Enough is enough. We need to stop being fearful of what other people might say about us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how administration can conduct performance reviews when there are mental health, safety concerns , and retaliation for reporting concerns that teachers have. We are just put between a rock and a hard place at every situation and we get no support, low pay, and further no fair playing field for us to demonstrate our abilities as there is no autonomy. Just us pushing mgmts flawed resource depleted curriculum( or lack there of). It's just not a respected profession.

Most teachers are paid decently for a 10 month job. The other staff like bus drivers, support staff, etc are not paid well.

This again.

Come teach for a year and see if you feel the same way.

When I worked for the county at an equally hard job, if not harder, I made less with a masters and 12 months. They pay well for a county job as they don’t require a masters and help pay for it. If they are unhappy they are welcome to quit. Given this, I could not blame them if they quit. I would and did for safety reasons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clarksburg has a program for Emotionally disabled students.

“Emotionally disabled”?

Essentially kids who have been removed from their home for extreme abuse.

Not restricted to kids that have been removed from their home for abuse…the majority of kids in a ED program live at home but have extreme behavior issues. It takes a LONG time for MCPS to actually put kids in a ED (Emotional Disorder) program. I teach at an elem school and we have multiple kids who qualify for these accommodations but I have only had one student that was successfully placed out. Least Restrictive Environment (LRE) is being used to justify keeping these kids in their home schools (multiple instances of violent or aggressive incidents, fighting, throwing chairs, tearing apart classrooms to the point of the class needing to evacuate for safety, etc.). Not sure what happens in this particular incident but wanted to clear up the misconception that ED programs are only for students who have suffered abuse and removed from their homes.

But it is essential kids who were severely abused and many taken from their parents.

Sorry but no it’s not. I don’t wanna argue semantics but that is a common misconception. While many kids in the program may have experienced poor parenting (and there are ED kids with parents that are fighting for them to be in an environment with more support), the biggest issue is the refusal by MCPS to quickly and appropriately place kids in these programs. How many violent incidences need to occur before MCPS realizes our schools are increasingly becoming less and less safe for students?

They don’t have enough programs.

[Anonymous]

Have you factored in 70 hour work weeks, no breaks during 12 hr work days, buying thousands of dollars of supplies that you can't write off on taxes as your school refuses to let you use books etc. Have you factored in being assaulted by students and then being blamed by admin because you were disrespected or attacked trying to teach. Then written up negatively that you didn't do enough. Then Having to explain to unemployment the circumstances of educators because the school system lied about your reason for leaving to hack any small benefits that you might have accrued. It's not only that they don't support, or dont want to pay us, but they try to ruin our careers when we devote 100% of our lives to teaching kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:B-CC Parents say "Oh Please"

Certainly not. How dumb are you? This BCC parent says we need to band together and pressure the Board and MCPS to keep violent students OUT of our schools!!!

We need to pay for expanded alternate schools for these kids. They do not belong in mainstream schools. Period.

This. The only way out of this is to have a massive group of parents show up at every BOE meeting and speak out against what's happening. Enough is enough. We need to stop being fearful of what other people might say about us.

Aren't there federal requirements mandating the least restricted environment fur all students? That is where all those separate programs went

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:B-CC Parents say "Oh Please"

Certainly not. How dumb are you? This BCC parent says we need to band together and pressure the Board and MCPS to keep violent students OUT of our schools!!!

We need to pay for expanded alternate schools for these kids. They do not belong in mainstream schools. Period.

This. The only way out of this is to have a massive group of parents show up at every BOE meeting and speak out against what's happening. Enough is enough. We need to stop being fearful of what other people might say about us.

Yes. But as always, it's going to come down to race. And no one wants to touch that with a ten foot pole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how administration can conduct performance reviews when there are mental health, safety concerns , and retaliation for reporting concerns that teachers have. We are just put between a rock and a hard place at every situation and we get no support, low pay, and further no fair playing field for us to demonstrate our abilities as there is no autonomy. Just us pushing mgmts flawed resource depleted curriculum( or lack there of). It's just not a respected profession.

Most teachers are paid decently for a 10 month job. The other staff like bus drivers, support staff, etc are not paid well.

This again.

Come teach for a year and see if you feel the same way.

When I worked for the county at an equally hard job, if not harder, I made less with a masters and 12 months. They pay well for a county job as they don’t require a masters and help pay for it. If they are unhappy they are welcome to quit. Given this, I could not blame them if they quit. I would and did for safety reasons.

Teachers are quitting, so clearly they don’t like the conditions.

But I am curious, what county job did you have that you assume is harder than teaching and pays less?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:B-CC Parents say "Oh Please"

Certainly not. How dumb are you? This BCC parent says we need to band together and pressure the Board and MCPS to keep violent students OUT of our schools!!!

We need to pay for expanded alternate schools for these kids. They do not belong in mainstream schools. Period.

This. The only way out of this is to have a massive group of parents show up at every BOE meeting and speak out against what's happening. Enough is enough. We need to stop being fearful of what other people might say about us.

Aren't there federal requirements mandating the least restricted environment fur all students? That is where all those separate programs went

LRE has been the law since the 70s. The programs were eliminated because they're expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:B-CC Parents say "Oh Please"

Certainly not. How dumb are you? This BCC parent says we need to band together and pressure the Board and MCPS to keep violent students OUT of our schools!!!

We need to pay for expanded alternate schools for these kids. They do not belong in mainstream schools. Period.

This. The only way out of this is to have a massive group of parents show up at every BOE meeting and speak out against what's happening. Enough is enough. We need to stop being fearful of what other people might say about us.

Aren't there federal requirements mandating the least restricted environment fur all students? That is where all those separate programs went

Yea but LRE does not mean all students should be in a general Ed classroom setting. Kids should be in an appropriate setting where they will receive the support they need. Many kids with IEP’s do well in a general setting but MCPS fails to acknowledge those who need more support (or are a danger to others around them).

The other issue is how schools are negatively judged on the number of suspensions…effectively leaving principals hands tied. This is in addition to the restrictions placed on suspending students with a IEP. Thankful for the principals that are trying to bring some of these issues to light.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC Parents say "Oh Please"

Certainly not. How dumb are you? This BCC parent says we need to band together and pressure the Board and MCPS to keep violent students OUT of our schools!!!

We need to pay for expanded alternate schools for these kids. They do not belong in mainstream schools. Period.

This. The only way out of this is to have a massive group of parents show up at every BOE meeting and speak out against what's happening. Enough is enough. We need to stop being fearful of what other people might say about us.

Aren't there federal requirements mandating the least restricted environment fur all students? That is where all those separate programs went

Yea but LRE does not mean all students should be in a general Ed classroom setting. Kids should be in an appropriate setting where they will receive the support they need. Many kids with IEP’s do well in a general setting but MCPS fails to acknowledge those who need more support (or are a danger to others around them).

The other issue is how schools are negatively judged on the number of suspensions…effectively leaving principals hands tied. This is in addition to the restrictions placed on suspending students with a IEP. Thankful for the principals that are trying to bring some of these issues to light.

Nothing and I mean nothing will change until a large group of parents across the county scream about this publicly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A “tip” lol

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Nobody with a journalism background goes on an unverified “tip”, so a teenager told you something… lol and you reported it?

Or the source could be a teacher and a known reliable source to Moderately MoCo? Why do you presume it was a teen? He’s had multiple teachers and MCPS staff guest post and interviewed on his blog.

The credibility bar for the conservative website moderately moco is low.

Has he published false news?

I’m not sure it’s fair to say he published “news”.

In other words, you don’t have any examples.

This thread is an example dimwit .. was it 1 massive fight or 7 individual fights. Hmmm

This thread is a perfect example of fear-mongering.

[Anonymous]

MCPS pulled this last year. I remember the Blake HS principal told teachers they weren’t allowed to suspend students anymore. MCPS only cares about optics, not actual safety or education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you factored in 70 hour work weeks, no breaks during 12 hr work days, buying thousands of dollars of supplies that you can't write off on taxes as your school refuses to let you use books etc. Have you factored in being assaulted by students and then being blamed by admin because you were disrespected or attacked trying to teach. Then written up negatively that you didn't do enough. Then Having to explain to unemployment the circumstances of educators because the school system lied about your reason for leaving to hack any small benefits that you might have accrued. It's not only that they don't support, or dont want to pay us, but they try to ruin our careers when we devote 100% of our lives to teaching kids

Yes. Been there.