Report of a massive fight at Clarksburg HS

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Anonymous wrote:Since 2011 newer teachers can retire at the age plus years of service equals 90 rule. So a teacher at age 60 after 30 years of work could retire with about 50% salary as pension. They take 7.5% of our salary each paycheck and basically match it 20% of salary to beef up the overall pension system. Employees that started before 2011 have the rule 85 so theoretically can retire in their 50s but most stay on a few years longer in my experience. That said currently, every teacher I know is counting down the years. No one plan to stay on past full retirement unless there is a good personal reason. You are basically working at a 50% discount if you not taking the pension at full retirement age. Some need the extra money or health care.


Wish more jobs had those benefits. It seems pretty reasonable honestly. It would be nice if they ensured people got fair value even if they left early I guess to not bake icnetives to get teachers to quit into their system.
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Anonymous wrote:Have you factored in 70 hour work weeks, no breaks during 12 hr work days, buying thousands of dollars of supplies that you can't write off on taxes as your school refuses to let you use books etc. Have you factored in being assaulted by students and then being blamed by admin because you were disrespected or attacked trying to teach. Then written up negatively that you didn't do enough. Then Having to explain to unemployment the circumstances of educators because the school system lied about your reason for leaving to hack any small benefits that you might have accrued. It's not only that they don't support, or dont want to pay us, but they try to ruin our careers when we devote 100% of our lives to teaching kids


Most teachers are paid pretty well for a 10 month job. If you aren't happy, quit.


Yes, they work at most 180 days per year. My kids teachers are out a couple days a month on top of that. They also have an amazing pension the likes of which nobody else gets. It would be like your job sets aside half your pay to help you retire someday. The pension alone is worth 40k a year.


My kid's teachers are out a lot, too. I think they work 160 days a year. Also, I heard they can retire with 50% pay for the rest of their lives after something like 25 years.




Retirement is when age plus service equals 90, so you’d have to be 65 years old to retire at 25 years. Few teachers start at 40. Oh, and many teachers quit before the pension kicks in. Hard job and all.

Teachers are paid for over 190 days of work a year. (191, I think?) They aren’t paid for the absurd amount of overtime they do.




That's odd since two of my kids teachers with 30 years retired last year in their mid 50s.


You can 'retire' anytime you would like after a certain amount of time. Some people want to stick it out to get the max salary and benefits, some do not. I will not. Bonus is they are young enough so that they can pursue another job they actually hopefully will enjoy. Police and Fire have the same option as well. The longer you stay, the more benefit in terms of retirement pay, but not all stay the max.
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Anonymous wrote:Have you factored in 70 hour work weeks, no breaks during 12 hr work days, buying thousands of dollars of supplies that you can't write off on taxes as your school refuses to let you use books etc. Have you factored in being assaulted by students and then being blamed by admin because you were disrespected or attacked trying to teach. Then written up negatively that you didn't do enough. Then Having to explain to unemployment the circumstances of educators because the school system lied about your reason for leaving to hack any small benefits that you might have accrued. It's not only that they don't support, or dont want to pay us, but they try to ruin our careers when we devote 100% of our lives to teaching kids


Most teachers are paid pretty well for a 10 month job. If you aren't happy, quit.


Yes, they work at most 180 days per year. My kids teachers are out a couple days a month on top of that. They also have an amazing pension the likes of which nobody else gets. It would be like your job sets aside half your pay to help you retire someday. The pension alone is worth 40k a year.


My kid's teachers are out a lot, too. I think they work 160 days a year. Also, I heard they can retire with 50% pay for the rest of their lives after something like 25 years.




Retirement is when age plus service equals 90, so you’d have to be 65 years old to retire at 25 years. Few teachers start at 40. Oh, and many teachers quit before the pension kicks in. Hard job and all.

Teachers are paid for over 190 days of work a year. (191, I think?) They aren’t paid for the absurd amount of overtime they do.




That's odd since two of my kids teachers with 30 years retired last year in their mid 50s.


Teachers can say they are retiring at any point. That doesn’t mean they are getting full retirement benefits.

There are many teachers struggling to hold on simply for full retirement. I won’t be one of them because I can’t keep up with the hours and the conditions anymore. A full pension isn’t worth my happiness or my health.
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Anonymous wrote:Have you factored in 70 hour work weeks, no breaks during 12 hr work days, buying thousands of dollars of supplies that you can't write off on taxes as your school refuses to let you use books etc. Have you factored in being assaulted by students and then being blamed by admin because you were disrespected or attacked trying to teach. Then written up negatively that you didn't do enough. Then Having to explain to unemployment the circumstances of educators because the school system lied about your reason for leaving to hack any small benefits that you might have accrued. It's not only that they don't support, or dont want to pay us, but they try to ruin our careers when we devote 100% of our lives to teaching kids


Most teachers are paid pretty well for a 10 month job. If you aren't happy, quit.


Yes, they work at most 180 days per year. My kids teachers are out a couple days a month on top of that. They also have an amazing pension the likes of which nobody else gets. It would be like your job sets aside half your pay to help you retire someday. The pension alone is worth 40k a year.


My kid's teachers are out a lot, too. I think they work 160 days a year. Also, I heard they can retire with 50% pay for the rest of their lives after something like 25 years.




Retirement is when age plus service equals 90, so you’d have to be 65 years old to retire at 25 years. Few teachers start at 40. Oh, and many teachers quit before the pension kicks in. Hard job and all.

Teachers are paid for over 190 days of work a year. (191, I think?) They aren’t paid for the absurd amount of overtime they do.




That's odd since two of my kids teachers with 30 years retired last year in their mid 50s.


Teachers can say they are retiring at any point. That doesn’t mean they are getting full retirement benefits.

There are many teachers struggling to hold on simply for full retirement. I won’t be one of them because I can’t keep up with the hours and the conditions anymore. A full pension isn’t worth my happiness or my health.


Most people these days are in the same boat but when they quit they don't get jack so at least you get something.
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Anonymous wrote:Have you factored in 70 hour work weeks, no breaks during 12 hr work days, buying thousands of dollars of supplies that you can't write off on taxes as your school refuses to let you use books etc. Have you factored in being assaulted by students and then being blamed by admin because you were disrespected or attacked trying to teach. Then written up negatively that you didn't do enough. Then Having to explain to unemployment the circumstances of educators because the school system lied about your reason for leaving to hack any small benefits that you might have accrued. It's not only that they don't support, or dont want to pay us, but they try to ruin our careers when we devote 100% of our lives to teaching kids


Most teachers are paid pretty well for a 10 month job. If you aren't happy, quit.


Yes, they work at most 180 days per year. My kids teachers are out a couple days a month on top of that. They also have an amazing pension the likes of which nobody else gets. It would be like your job sets aside half your pay to help you retire someday. The pension alone is worth 40k a year.


My kid's teachers are out a lot, too. I think they work 160 days a year. Also, I heard they can retire with 50% pay for the rest of their lives after something like 25 years.




Retirement is when age plus service equals 90, so you’d have to be 65 years old to retire at 25 years. Few teachers start at 40. Oh, and many teachers quit before the pension kicks in. Hard job and all.

Teachers are paid for over 190 days of work a year. (191, I think?) They aren’t paid for the absurd amount of overtime they do.




That's odd since two of my kids teachers with 30 years retired last year in their mid 50s.


Teachers can say they are retiring at any point. That doesn’t mean they are getting full retirement benefits.

There are many teachers struggling to hold on simply for full retirement. I won’t be one of them because I can’t keep up with the hours and the conditions anymore. A full pension isn’t worth my happiness or my health.


Most people these days are in the same boat but when they quit they don't get jack so at least you get something.


Yes, the pension is a wonderful thing. I'm in a different state and left my public school job with about 18 years in. I couldn't do it anymore. And while I won't get nearly as much money as if I'd stayed another 12 years, it'll still be something. Like most teachers, I'm extremely glad I'll have it. I wish everyone had the same.
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Anonymous wrote:Have you factored in 70 hour work weeks, no breaks during 12 hr work days, buying thousands of dollars of supplies that you can't write off on taxes as your school refuses to let you use books etc. Have you factored in being assaulted by students and then being blamed by admin because you were disrespected or attacked trying to teach. Then written up negatively that you didn't do enough. Then Having to explain to unemployment the circumstances of educators because the school system lied about your reason for leaving to hack any small benefits that you might have accrued. It's not only that they don't support, or dont want to pay us, but they try to ruin our careers when we devote 100% of our lives to teaching kids


Most teachers are paid pretty well for a 10 month job. If you aren't happy, quit.


Yes, they work at most 180 days per year. My kids teachers are out a couple days a month on top of that. They also have an amazing pension the likes of which nobody else gets. It would be like your job sets aside half your pay to help you retire someday. The pension alone is worth 40k a year.


My kid's teachers are out a lot, too. I think they work 160 days a year. Also, I heard they can retire with 50% pay for the rest of their lives after something like 25 years.




Retirement is when age plus service equals 90, so you’d have to be 65 years old to retire at 25 years. Few teachers start at 40. Oh, and many teachers quit before the pension kicks in. Hard job and all.

Teachers are paid for over 190 days of work a year. (191, I think?) They aren’t paid for the absurd amount of overtime they do.




That's odd since two of my kids teachers with 30 years retired last year in their mid 50s.


Teachers can say they are retiring at any point. That doesn’t mean they are getting full retirement benefits.

There are many teachers struggling to hold on simply for full retirement. I won’t be one of them because I can’t keep up with the hours and the conditions anymore. A full pension isn’t worth my happiness or my health.


Most people these days are in the same boat but when they quit they don't get jack so at least you get something.


I didn’t stay long enough to get anything, which is true for many, many teachers. We lost two first-year teachers in the middle of the year. Kinda normal.
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Anonymous wrote:Have you factored in 70 hour work weeks, no breaks during 12 hr work days, buying thousands of dollars of supplies that you can't write off on taxes as your school refuses to let you use books etc. Have you factored in being assaulted by students and then being blamed by admin because you were disrespected or attacked trying to teach. Then written up negatively that you didn't do enough. Then Having to explain to unemployment the circumstances of educators because the school system lied about your reason for leaving to hack any small benefits that you might have accrued. It's not only that they don't support, or dont want to pay us, but they try to ruin our careers when we devote 100% of our lives to teaching kids


Most teachers are paid pretty well for a 10 month job. If you aren't happy, quit.


Yes, they work at most 180 days per year. My kids teachers are out a couple days a month on top of that. They also have an amazing pension the likes of which nobody else gets. It would be like your job sets aside half your pay to help you retire someday. The pension alone is worth 40k a year.


My kid's teachers are out a lot, too. I think they work 160 days a year. Also, I heard they can retire with 50% pay for the rest of their lives after something like 25 years.




Retirement is when age plus service equals 90, so you’d have to be 65 years old to retire at 25 years. Few teachers start at 40. Oh, and many teachers quit before the pension kicks in. Hard job and all.

Teachers are paid for over 190 days of work a year. (191, I think?) They aren’t paid for the absurd amount of overtime they do.




That's odd since two of my kids teachers with 30 years retired last year in their mid 50s.


Teachers can say they are retiring at any point. That doesn’t mean they are getting full retirement benefits.

There are many teachers struggling to hold on simply for full retirement. I won’t be one of them because I can’t keep up with the hours and the conditions anymore. A full pension isn’t worth my happiness or my health.


Most people these days are in the same boat but when they quit they don't get jack so at least you get something.


Don’t most public servants get a pension?
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Anonymous wrote:Have you factored in 70 hour work weeks, no breaks during 12 hr work days, buying thousands of dollars of supplies that you can't write off on taxes as your school refuses to let you use books etc. Have you factored in being assaulted by students and then being blamed by admin because you were disrespected or attacked trying to teach. Then written up negatively that you didn't do enough. Then Having to explain to unemployment the circumstances of educators because the school system lied about your reason for leaving to hack any small benefits that you might have accrued. It's not only that they don't support, or dont want to pay us, but they try to ruin our careers when we devote 100% of our lives to teaching kids


Most teachers are paid pretty well for a 10 month job. If you aren't happy, quit.


Yes, they work at most 180 days per year. My kids teachers are out a couple days a month on top of that. They also have an amazing pension the likes of which nobody else gets. It would be like your job sets aside half your pay to help you retire someday. The pension alone is worth 40k a year.


My kid's teachers are out a lot, too. I think they work 160 days a year. Also, I heard they can retire with 50% pay for the rest of their lives after something like 25 years.




Retirement is when age plus service equals 90, so you’d have to be 65 years old to retire at 25 years. Few teachers start at 40. Oh, and many teachers quit before the pension kicks in. Hard job and all.

Teachers are paid for over 190 days of work a year. (191, I think?) They aren’t paid for the absurd amount of overtime they do.




That's odd since two of my kids teachers with 30 years retired last year in their mid 50s.


Teachers can say they are retiring at any point. That doesn’t mean they are getting full retirement benefits.

There are many teachers struggling to hold on simply for full retirement. I won’t be one of them because I can’t keep up with the hours and the conditions anymore. A full pension isn’t worth my happiness or my health.


Most people these days are in the same boat but when they quit they don't get jack so at least you get something.


Don’t most public servants get a pension?


No, the county got rid of their pensions 30 years ago or so.
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