GOP to WOMEN: DROP DEAD

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Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?

The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.

At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?

Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.

Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.

I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.

More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."

I’m a big fan of bringing back God’s intent. With fewer ER doctors choosing to practice in Texas hospitals, it’s going to be a lot more likely that Texas’s super-size conservatives are going to die from their heart attacks and strokes. Just like God intended when he gave them the heart attacks and strokes in the first place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?

The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.

“At the heart of this threat to EMTALA is a challenge to the idea that abortions are *ever* medically necessary. According to the anti-choice movement, the answer is no because every abortion ends “fetal life.”

So you can see how transparently the EMTALA fight is really a fight over who is the patient in a medical emergency—the pregnant person or their developing pregnancy. It’s fetal personhood and medical trauma all wrapped together.

So far the conservative federal courts have sided with the Alliance Defending Freedom and anti-choice movement in determining that state abortion bans override federal law here. If allowed to stand, that means no emergency abortion care, EMTALA be damned.”
- Jessica Mason Pieklo
https://twitter.com/hegemommy/status/1742627317338235367?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg

Is next step SCOTUS? I’m turning my rage into action.

Yes. She goes on to say that the 9th Circuit is deciding on a similar case in Idaho later this month. The assumption at this point is that those results will be different and SCOTUS will have to weigh in. If they decide that the inhumane laws in the pro-forced birth states supersede the federal law that EMTALA is, watch out.

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Anonymous wrote:And yet, Trump is leading Biden... Hmmm.

Yeah, no. Polls mean nothing, look at real data. Democrats have done better in every single election since Trump was elected in 2016. He’s not winning.

Let’s not tell them anymore. They’re safe in their little forced birther community bubbles and have no idea about the outside world. They suck off the teat of right wing media, happy that someone agrees with everything they think and oblivious to the fact they’re being spoon fed lies and propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As I’ve said: forced birthers are monsters. I honestly think they derive sexual satisfaction from the torture of women.

Agree. There is something seriously wrong with these people. How do people stand living in Texas, knowing their highest judicial bodies are okay with sick women dying?

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Wrong. It *IS* preventing medically necessary abortions. Women are having to leave the state out of medical necessity. Doctors have testified that the laws are too ambiguous and in fact do not give them enough autonomy or ability to perform medically necessary abortions.

I cannot believe this idiot above has the gall to say "false" when Texas has been an absolute disaster where it comes to medically necessary abortions.

[Anonymous]

A judge or a lawyer should not have any part of making decisions about what is medically necessary. That needs to be left to physicians.

[Anonymous]

Is there a thread about this unfortunate Ohio woman being prosecuted for “abuse of a corpse” after miscarrying at home at 21 weeks? The fetus was already dead and she had been trying to get care in a hospital for 2 days prior to that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/us/brittany-watts-ohio-miscarriage-abortion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.K00.M63X.jZU2fSB5OiYe&smid=url-share

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a thread about this unfortunate Ohio woman being prosecuted for “abuse of a corpse” after miscarrying at home at 21 weeks? The fetus was already dead and she had been trying to get care in a hospital for 2 days prior to that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/us/brittany-watts-ohio-miscarriage-abortion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.K00.M63X.jZU2fSB5OiYe&smid=url-share

And that’s how the law will be applied: to anyone they think they can get away with prosecuting and attacking. Racist forced birther pigs.

[Anonymous]

Women can't travel out of Texas for abortion services, but Abbott pays for migrants to be bussed out of the state of Texas. So over the GOP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a thread about this unfortunate Ohio woman being prosecuted for “abuse of a corpse” after miscarrying at home at 21 weeks? The fetus was already dead and she had been trying to get care in a hospital for 2 days prior to that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/us/brittany-watts-ohio-miscarriage-abortion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.K00.M63X.jZU2fSB5OiYe&smid=url-share

Yes https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1167236.page

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a thread about this unfortunate Ohio woman being prosecuted for “abuse of a corpse” after miscarrying at home at 21 weeks? The fetus was already dead and she had been trying to get care in a hospital for 2 days prior to that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/us/brittany-watts-ohio-miscarriage-abortion.html?unlocked_article_code=1.K00.M63X.jZU2fSB5OiYe&smid=url-share

Yes https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1167236.page

I wish that thread was in Political forum where it belongs. It’s not Off-Topic.

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Anonymous wrote:So much for those "exceptions"

There never was a real exception. When the consequence for being wrong, or for someone disagreeing with your medical opininion, was at best crippling lawsuits and at worst life in prison, the law ensured that no one would ever preform an emergency abortion

Maybe doctors should just leave Texas—or not take job offers there.

this is already starting to happen

Not in mass, and clearly not fast enough.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.

That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.

The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.

The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.

As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.

If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.

I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto

Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As I’ve said: forced birthers are monsters. I honestly think they derive sexual satisfaction from the torture of women.

I think you're on to something...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.

That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.

The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.

The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.

As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.

If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.

I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto

Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.

You prove my point that Democrats focus far too much on Federal elections while all these anti abortion bills (and extremism in general) is a product of state governments. I’m not saying we can ignore Trump, but for way too long Democrats have ceded state and local power to GOP.

That said, I seriously doubt MI and PA will vote Trump. I understand why you are concerned but think Dems are much better positioned.