GOP to WOMEN: DROP DEAD

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Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?

The mother's life is always more important.
She is an actual person. The fetus is not.

At what point does the fetus attain equal status as the mother?

Easy, once it can live outside her body with minimal medical assistance.

Exactly, like in the old days. I would even say almost no medical assistance, you have a preemie and the preemie dies like "God intended." It's interesting the conservative anti women forced birthers don't ever mention this ever.

I'm convinced it's going to take their wives, sisters and girlfriends dying or losing their fertility for conservatives to have a light bulb moment.

More than likely they will just blame the pregnant/dead / infertile woman and the men will move on and start the cycle all over again with another woman, just like they did in the "good old days."

Nah. It ain’t gonna happen. Those wives, daughters, girlfriends and sisters are flying into Illinois, California, New Mexico and Virginia to obtain their life saving abortions.

Dp- someone’s not going to have the time for that. Someone is going to die, but here’s the thing.
I still think it won’t matter. I don’t think dead women are a problem for them.
There is a deep rot in evangelicalism. There is a deep rot within religious extremism.
They won’t be swayed or convinced.
But that’s ok, because we outnumber them. And we have to fight them and beat them back to the fringes where they belong.

I would guess several women already have died from this. You know what the right wing crazies are like; I would guess they are keeping their family tragedy quiet so as not to expose themselves to right wing harassment and terrorism.

Probably several poor and POC women have already died, but those will not make national headlines and certainly won't make news inside Texas.

Not dead but the White, Male, Republican prosecutor refused to drop charges and now Brittney Watt's case continues. We all know if she were white this wouldn't be happening. Can any Ohio prosecutors weigh in if the case could have been dropped?
https://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-news/2024/01/grand-jury-report-shows-miscarriage-case-continued/

Not a prosecutor but of course there was discretion here. They had the police take her toilet apart to search for remains.
Ps - apparently some nurse at the hospital called the police. I would LOVE to know who that was.

Not defending her but nurses have a duty to report. Had she not, she could have been held liable.

Small gov’t you know…

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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.

That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.

The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.

The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.

As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.

If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.

I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto

Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.

2016 was the last time any Republican won all of Michigan or Pennsylvania but keep ignoring actual election results.

Since the overturn of RvW, all elections have had record turnout of young child-bearing age voters and women. The under-35 demographic and women have overwhelmingly voted against abortion restrictions in deep-red Kansas, very red Ohio, and have re-elected Democratic governor, Andy Beshear in Kentucky, and turned both houses of the Virginia legislature Democratic. Each of these states, abortion was a major voting issue and in each case, abortion rights have prevailed.

So you really think that the same is not going to happen in purple states like Michigan (where voters support abortion rights 54-42) and Pennsylvania (where voters support abortion rights 51-44)? As with the other states, young voters and suburban women will be coming out and will vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

Additionally Texas has become much more competitive. In 2016, Trump beat clinton 52.23% - 43.24% (+8.99%). In 2020, Trump beat Biden 52.06% - 46.48% (+5.58%). 6 of the 7 fastest growing areas in the state of Texas are the cities that historically vote blue (Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Ft Worth, El Paso). Between the growing Democratic demographics in the blue areas, and if, Texas follows other states where young voters, women and suburban households come out in record numbers and vote significantly blue, Texas becomes a very competitive state in 2024, especially with the draconian policies that Abbott, Patrick and Paxton have been pushing. I would not be surprised to see Texas vote blue in 2024.

Generally speaking Dem candidates are currently viewed more favorably than GOP candidates and it has indeed been that way for the last few years. We've seen Dem candidates lead from start to finish in polling data through to the end election results in many historically red or purple jurisdictions. The ominous aspect of this is how this momentum has not carried over to Biden's 2024 election bid. The same polling sources that were accurate in showing Dem candidates leading in polls while on there way to victory in recent elections are suggesting Biden has at best 50/50 odds of beating Trump in many of those same swing states that have otherwise favored Dem candidates recently. Biden was an asset to the Dem party in 2020. He is a liability in 2024. As long as Trump is his opponent, Biden does have a chance in 2024 but his odds of winning aren't nearly as favorable as they were in 2020.

For the hundredth time polls are not data. Look at results of special elections. Look at how Democrats are contesting more seats than ever, especially in NC, OH, TX. Look at high Democratic fundraising numbers, look at grassroots participation. This real data is a much better indicator than any poll will tell you.

I’d rather be us than them.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.

That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.

The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.

The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.

As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.

If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.

I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto

Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.

2016 was the last time any Republican won all of Michigan or Pennsylvania but keep ignoring actual election results.

Since the overturn of RvW, all elections have had record turnout of young child-bearing age voters and women. The under-35 demographic and women have overwhelmingly voted against abortion restrictions in deep-red Kansas, very red Ohio, and have re-elected Democratic governor, Andy Beshear in Kentucky, and turned both houses of the Virginia legislature Democratic. Each of these states, abortion was a major voting issue and in each case, abortion rights have prevailed.

So you really think that the same is not going to happen in purple states like Michigan (where voters support abortion rights 54-42) and Pennsylvania (where voters support abortion rights 51-44)? As with the other states, young voters and suburban women will be coming out and will vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

Additionally Texas has become much more competitive. In 2016, Trump beat clinton 52.23% - 43.24% (+8.99%). In 2020, Trump beat Biden 52.06% - 46.48% (+5.58%). 6 of the 7 fastest growing areas in the state of Texas are the cities that historically vote blue (Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Ft Worth, El Paso). Between the growing Democratic demographics in the blue areas, and if, Texas follows other states where young voters, women and suburban households come out in record numbers and vote significantly blue, Texas becomes a very competitive state in 2024, especially with the draconian policies that Abbott, Patrick and Paxton have been pushing. I would not be surprised to see Texas vote blue in 2024.

Generally speaking Dem candidates are currently viewed more favorably than GOP candidates and it has indeed been that way for the last few years. We've seen Dem candidates lead from start to finish in polling data through to the end election results in many historically red or purple jurisdictions. The ominous aspect of this is how this momentum has not carried over to Biden's 2024 election bid. The same polling sources that were accurate in showing Dem candidates leading in polls while on there way to victory in recent elections are suggesting Biden has at best 50/50 odds of beating Trump in many of those same swing states that have otherwise favored Dem candidates recently. Biden was an asset to the Dem party in 2020. He is a liability in 2024. As long as Trump is his opponent, Biden does have a chance in 2024 but his odds of winning aren't nearly as favorable as they were in 2020.

Special Election for a Florida house seat on Jan 16. Former Naval Flight Officer (D) is running to flip R seat. A Dem winning means the FL GOP will lose their supermajority in the statehouse and it will put the GOP on the backfoot (and hopefully put some of this Dem panic to rest).

Donate or volunteer at https://www.keenforfl.com

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yep. That is their stance.

Non-medical professional making medical decisions for people other than themselves.

F them all. I hope karma bites them hard.

Rs = death panel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?

that's up to the mother

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Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?

that's up to the mother

+1 And many fathers do not want to be single parents and it is no walk in the park with a special needs baby . . .

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The mother’s life is the most important.
Unless she decides otherwise.
The end

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Anonymous wrote:The mother’s life is the most important.
Unless she decides otherwise.
The end

Writing a book of fiction, I see.

Both mother and baby are equally valuable.

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Anonymous wrote:The mother’s life is the most important.
Unless she decides otherwise.
The end

Writing a book of fiction, I see.

Both mother and baby are equally valuable.

The mother is already here. She is a living, breathing, viable individual. The baby is not. The mother, whose life the baby relies on, gets to decide if she wants to stay alive or not.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when seats go uncontested and the GOP is given full reign to rule with no accountability.

That sounds like you’re dumping responsibility for this in the lap of the Democratic Party. Is there any reason you can’t just assign blame to the forced birthers, the GOP? This isn’t on the Democrats.

The Democratic Party of abandoned state & local elections in favor of the presidency and Senate. They abandoned Howard Dean’s 50 state strategy when Obama was elected. This is just a fact.

The good news is that Democrats now understand the importance of state and local elections and are kicking butt. Look at Michigan and Pennsylvania. North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, even Arkansas had an incredible filing cycle this year. In all but Arkansas, Democrats are contesting every single state Senate seat and almost all state house seats. I am very optimistic of the trajectory, but it will take time to crawl out of the hole that the Dem party put us in when they abandoned Dean’s strategy.

As a Democrat, I think it’s very important to be clear eyed how we got here. Yes, the GOP ante awful but we let them have the seats. We let them become so powerful that they can redraw the lines so that we could not compete.

If you want to change this trajectory, I donate and volunteer to organizations that are doing this.
I give monthly to Blue Ohio & Blue Texas help fund state legislative races and register voters.

I volunteer with Betos group to register new voters. Last cycle I knocked doors and made calls in VA. I’m not complaining. I’m just stating fact and I’m taking action.
Beto

Not sure Michigan is a win this year in a national election. Local and state wins, yes. National, I don’t think so. Same for Pennsylvania.

2016 was the last time any Republican won all of Michigan or Pennsylvania but keep ignoring actual election results.

Since the overturn of RvW, all elections have had record turnout of young child-bearing age voters and women. The under-35 demographic and women have overwhelmingly voted against abortion restrictions in deep-red Kansas, very red Ohio, and have re-elected Democratic governor, Andy Beshear in Kentucky, and turned both houses of the Virginia legislature Democratic. Each of these states, abortion was a major voting issue and in each case, abortion rights have prevailed.

So you really think that the same is not going to happen in purple states like Michigan (where voters support abortion rights 54-42) and Pennsylvania (where voters support abortion rights 51-44)? As with the other states, young voters and suburban women will be coming out and will vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

Additionally Texas has become much more competitive. In 2016, Trump beat clinton 52.23% - 43.24% (+8.99%). In 2020, Trump beat Biden 52.06% - 46.48% (+5.58%). 6 of the 7 fastest growing areas in the state of Texas are the cities that historically vote blue (Austin, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Ft Worth, El Paso). Between the growing Democratic demographics in the blue areas, and if, Texas follows other states where young voters, women and suburban households come out in record numbers and vote significantly blue, Texas becomes a very competitive state in 2024, especially with the draconian policies that Abbott, Patrick and Paxton have been pushing. I would not be surprised to see Texas vote blue in 2024.

Generally speaking Dem candidates are currently viewed more favorably than GOP candidates and it has indeed been that way for the last few years. We've seen Dem candidates lead from start to finish in polling data through to the end election results in many historically red or purple jurisdictions. The ominous aspect of this is how this momentum has not carried over to Biden's 2024 election bid. The same polling sources that were accurate in showing Dem candidates leading in polls while on there way to victory in recent elections are suggesting Biden has at best 50/50 odds of beating Trump in many of those same swing states that have otherwise favored Dem candidates recently. Biden was an asset to the Dem party in 2020. He is a liability in 2024. As long as Trump is his opponent, Biden does have a chance in 2024 but his odds of winning aren't nearly as favorable as they were in 2020.

For the hundredth time polls are not data. Look at results of special elections. Look at how Democrats are contesting more seats than ever, especially in NC, OH, TX. Look at high Democratic fundraising numbers, look at grassroots participation. This real data is a much better indicator than any poll will tell you.

I’d rather be us than them.

Polls are notoriously inaccurate. Currently polling procedures call landlines. The vast majority of under 35 year olds no longer have landlines. So a key demographic that has played a huge role in the the November 2022 and November 2023 elections is not being polled at all. Until polling procedures can find a way to loop in cell phones, VOIP lines and on-line messaging into the polling, you are going to have a distortion from polling that will skew older, which means the polling skews conservative.

Remember that the two groups that made a huge impact on the Kansas, Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia races that all went Democratic were the 18-35 and suburban women. Those categories are under-represented by landline polling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The mother’s life is the most important.
Unless she decides otherwise.
The end

Writing a book of fiction, I see.

Both mother and baby are equally valuable.

In the forced birther hatred system, both are equally expendable. That’s why the US has the highest maternal and neonatal mortality and your hateful band of forced birthers smacks down any attempt to make healthcare more accessible.

Be honest. Are you guys in a death cult in which your demon demands human sacrifices? I’m starting to think so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is the mother’s life more important than the unborn baby? Or 50/50?

that's up to the mother

So a mom can kill her child, and you are ok with that?

A fetus is a developing child, so not a child. I find these arguments so disingenuous because conservatives do not want to care for children once they’re born. Our child poverty rates are terrible. If you really cared about children we would have starving children without healthcare and an excellent public school system.

You just want to control women.

YES, MA’AM.

Scratch the surface even slightly and you find out how much forced birthers want to punish women, how much they want them in pain. It doesn’t take much IRL for them to start talking about “Eve’s curse” and “women’s place in the world.” Forced birthers are reprobates - who have abortions at the same rates as women with pro choice politics, because every forced birther thinks her abortion is the only moral abortion - who want women with no rights.

[Anonymous]

Texas is doing a terrible job of protecting life.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-has-highest-maternal-mortality-rate-developed-world-why-n791671

[Anonymous]

Please don’t respond to the troll who is “just asking questions”
This thread is about women being denied life saving healthcare, that the 5th circuit has decided they are not entitled to.
The GOP has told us where they stand
There will be no exceptions .
Women are not equal and their lives don’t matter.
Vote single issue for women’s lives until it’s resolved.

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Anonymous wrote:Please don’t respond to the troll who is “just asking questions”
This thread is about women being denied life saving healthcare, that the 5th circuit has decided they are not entitled to.
The GOP has told us where they stand
There will be no exceptions .
Women are not equal and their lives don’t matter.
Vote single issue for women’s lives until it’s resolved.

We can’t just vote. We need to volunteer & donate. We need to have uncomfortable conversations with anyone slightly movable. We need to educate voters about what’s at stake and not just the horse race of politics. There are elections every week until 2024. All efforts help us build our activist muscles. There are groups doing voter registration now. Don’t wait.

If you need help finding an org reply to this thread with your level of comfort and preferred state and I can point you to volunteer & donate efforts.