Evangelization Vs. Proselytization

Anonymous
Nice dissertation no one will read.


It’s proselytizing.
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Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause


https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel


Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.


The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.


Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.


And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?


NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.


What beliefs and traditions are you referring to?


I'm referring to abortion. Most Muslims and Jews don't have such strict ideas about abortion, as Christians do -- yet we're subject to being forced to have conservative Christian ideas being forced on us and our bodily choices. This is a fact, and I don't know how you can pretend to be so naive that the anti-abortion trend isn't being driven by Christian proselytizing.


Abortion is your religious belief and tradition?


It's in within my beliefs, yes. In Islam for example, it's stated that God breathes a soul into a fetus at 120 days. That's the belief. Before that, a fetus does not have a soul, and abortion is considered acceptable by many Muslims.

Clearly you don't know a lot about other religions. Perhaps you should consider that what you don't consider proselytizing and evangelizing, is actually extremely forceful on the beliefs of others outside of your particular ideological subset.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause


https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel


Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.


The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.


Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.


And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?


NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.


+1

SCOTUS religious extremists are forcing their religion on me.


No, states are making laws you didn’t like. You don’t like that, and it’s not anything religion is doing to you. How are state laws religious?


The religious beliefs of the extremists on the SCOTUS drove them to take away basic protections for women.

The state laws are religious because the state legislators are encoding their religious beliefs as law.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause


https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel


Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.


The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.


Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.


And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?


Proselytizing doesn't mean 'forced".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause


Christians do not make people believe in God. That’s impossible.


OK. They still proselytize. Sometimes unethically.
Anonymous
Out of the many gods the human imagination has come up with, Yahweh/god/jesus are just as false as Zeus and Ares. So keep all of the fake stuff to yourself in your own country.

The fact of the matter remains religion and culture are intertwined. Missionaries never just preach. They try to impose a way of life on other people. Stay in your own lane westerners. You already ruined the world with two world wars, colonization and imperialism. Your religions are just as false as any of the other ones you disparage and try to covert nonbelievers from.
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Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause


https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel


Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.


The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.


Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.


And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?


NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.


What beliefs and traditions are you referring to?


I'm referring to abortion. Most Muslims and Jews don't have such strict ideas about abortion, as Christians do -- yet we're subject to being forced to have conservative Christian ideas being forced on us and our bodily choices. This is a fact, and I don't know how you can pretend to be so naive that the anti-abortion trend isn't being driven by Christian proselytizing.


Abortion is your religious belief and tradition?


It's in within my beliefs, yes. In Islam for example, it's stated that God breathes a soul into a fetus at 120 days. That's the belief. Before that, a fetus does not have a soul, and abortion is considered acceptable by many Muslims.

Clearly you don't know a lot about other religions. Perhaps you should consider that what you don't consider proselytizing and evangelizing, is actually extremely forceful on the beliefs of others outside of your particular ideological subset.


You want the government of the United States to make abortion policy on your belief that God doesn’t breathe a soul into an unborn baby until he or she is 120 days old?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause


https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel


Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.


The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.


Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.


And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?


NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.


+1

SCOTUS religious extremists are forcing their religion on me.


No, states are making laws you didn’t like. You don’t like that, and it’s not anything religion is doing to you. How are state laws religious?


The religious beliefs of the extremists on the SCOTUS drove them to take away basic protections for women.

The state laws are religious because the state legislators are encoding their religious beliefs as law.


This.

I cannot understand how pp can either be so naive, or think *others* are stupid, to not understand that state laws are made by legislators forcing their beliefs on their constituents. Especially when it's so obvious that their forced beliefs directly contradict the religious beliefs of others. But those others just don't have the votes. Or the gerrymandering.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Out of the many gods the human imagination has come up with, Yahweh/god/jesus are just as false as Zeus and Ares. So keep all of the fake stuff to yourself in your own country.

The fact of the matter remains religion and culture are intertwined. Missionaries never just preach. They try to impose a way of life on other people. Stay in your own lane westerners. You already ruined the world with two world wars, colonization and imperialism. Your religions are just as false as any of the other ones you disparage and try to covert nonbelievers from.


What country do you live in?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause


https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel


Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.


The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.


Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.


And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?


NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.


What beliefs and traditions are you referring to?


I'm referring to abortion. Most Muslims and Jews don't have such strict ideas about abortion, as Christians do -- yet we're subject to being forced to have conservative Christian ideas being forced on us and our bodily choices. This is a fact, and I don't know how you can pretend to be so naive that the anti-abortion trend isn't being driven by Christian proselytizing.


Abortion is your religious belief and tradition?


It's in within my beliefs, yes. In Islam for example, it's stated that God breathes a soul into a fetus at 120 days. That's the belief. Before that, a fetus does not have a soul, and abortion is considered acceptable by many Muslims.

Clearly you don't know a lot about other religions. Perhaps you should consider that what you don't consider proselytizing and evangelizing, is actually extremely forceful on the beliefs of others outside of your particular ideological subset.


You want the government of the United States to make abortion policy on your belief that God doesn’t breathe a soul into an unborn baby until he or she is 120 days old?


I'm not sure how this is difficult for you to comprehend.

I want the government of the United States to allow people to make decisions for themselves, in the name of religious freedom. Don't want an abortion because you faith says it's murder? Cool. Want to get one because you faith allows for that wiggle room? Cool. To each their own.

No one is forcing anyone to get an abortion. But there are laws that ARE preventing Americans from exercising their own religious freedoms to get an abortion.
Anonymous
To me, religious beliefs are very private, like sexual practices. So to me, a stranger asking about my religious beliefs or telling me about theirs is akin to them trying to sell me on the benefits of edging, or asking what my preferred sexual activities are. Totally inappropriate.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause


https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel


Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.


The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.


Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.


And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?


NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.


What beliefs and traditions are you referring to?


I'm referring to abortion. Most Muslims and Jews don't have such strict ideas about abortion, as Christians do -- yet we're subject to being forced to have conservative Christian ideas being forced on us and our bodily choices. This is a fact, and I don't know how you can pretend to be so naive that the anti-abortion trend isn't being driven by Christian proselytizing.


Abortion is your religious belief and tradition?


It's in within my beliefs, yes. In Islam for example, it's stated that God breathes a soul into a fetus at 120 days. That's the belief. Before that, a fetus does not have a soul, and abortion is considered acceptable by many Muslims.

Clearly you don't know a lot about other religions. Perhaps you should consider that what you don't consider proselytizing and evangelizing, is actually extremely forceful on the beliefs of others outside of your particular ideological subset.


You want the government of the United States to make abortion policy on your belief that God doesn’t breathe a soul into an unborn baby until he or she is 120 days old?


I'm not sure how this is difficult for you to comprehend.

I want the government of the United States to allow people to make decisions for themselves, in the name of religious freedom. Don't want an abortion because you faith says it's murder? Cool. Want to get one because you faith allows for that wiggle room? Cool. To each their own.

No one is forcing anyone to get an abortion. But there are laws that ARE preventing Americans from exercising their own religious freedoms to get an abortion.


The Quran – the Islamic holy book – indicate that a fetus is not a “life” until the soul is breathed into it; that does not happen at conception, but at some later time.

Jonathan C Brown, a professor of Islamic civilisation at Georgetown University in Washington, DC, said, “The process of a life being created extends from 40 days to 120 days, when ensoulment occurs.”

So do you believe the baby isn’t alive until 120 days after conception?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To me, religious beliefs are very private, like sexual practices. So to me, a stranger asking about my religious beliefs or telling me about theirs is akin to them trying to sell me on the benefits of edging, or asking what my preferred sexual activities are. Totally inappropriate.


So reading the posts here are like porn for you?
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Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause


https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel


Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.


The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.


Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.


And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?


NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.


What beliefs and traditions are you referring to?


I'm referring to abortion. Most Muslims and Jews don't have such strict ideas about abortion, as Christians do -- yet we're subject to being forced to have conservative Christian ideas being forced on us and our bodily choices. This is a fact, and I don't know how you can pretend to be so naive that the anti-abortion trend isn't being driven by Christian proselytizing.


Abortion is your religious belief and tradition?


It's in within my beliefs, yes. In Islam for example, it's stated that God breathes a soul into a fetus at 120 days. That's the belief. Before that, a fetus does not have a soul, and abortion is considered acceptable by many Muslims.

Clearly you don't know a lot about other religions. Perhaps you should consider that what you don't consider proselytizing and evangelizing, is actually extremely forceful on the beliefs of others outside of your particular ideological subset.


You want the government of the United States to make abortion policy on your belief that God doesn’t breathe a soul into an unborn baby until he or she is 120 days old?


I'm not sure how this is difficult for you to comprehend.

I want the government of the United States to allow people to make decisions for themselves, in the name of religious freedom. Don't want an abortion because you faith says it's murder? Cool. Want to get one because you faith allows for that wiggle room? Cool. To each their own.

No one is forcing anyone to get an abortion. But there are laws that ARE preventing Americans from exercising their own religious freedoms to get an abortion.


The Quran – the Islamic holy book – indicate that a fetus is not a “life” until the soul is breathed into it; that does not happen at conception, but at some later time.

Jonathan C Brown, a professor of Islamic civilisation at Georgetown University in Washington, DC, said, “The process of a life being created extends from 40 days to 120 days, when ensoulment occurs.”

So do you believe the baby isn’t alive until 120 days after conception?


Cool copy/paste from your google search.

It doesn't matter what I believe. What matters is religious freedom. And your denial that Christians don't proselytize is utter BS - you know it, and I know it. Religious minorities (and people who are not religious) have conservative Christianity forced on them constantly. This is a fact in America.


Anonymous
My beliefs say that life doesnt start at conception. So does science.

Why are religious (christian) law makers trying to push this narrative? They are clearly pushing their religion on all constituents by agreeing these anti-science laws.

Also stem cells, why would religious people try and halt the progress of science here? Because it goes against their personal religion only?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:To me, religious beliefs are very private, like sexual practices. So to me, a stranger asking about my religious beliefs or telling me about theirs is akin to them trying to sell me on the benefits of edging, or asking what my preferred sexual activities are. Totally inappropriate.


So reading the posts here are like porn for you?


This is a very rude and childish response to a genuine attempt to explain why I don’t like strangers trying to discuss religious beliefs with me—theirs or mine.
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