Evangelization Vs. Proselytization

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Proselytize has multiple definitions:
To try to convert someone, especially to one's religion
To persuade someone to do or join something, especially by offering an inducement
To recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
To try to persuade people to join a religion, cause, or group

Yes you have the constitutional right to do all of that. You can have a different definition, but arguing over definitions is silly.

And since you told me your God is an awesome god, I will respond by saying there is no evidence he exists, and that is a good thing, because the god of the bible is a freaking horrible monster, in my opinion.

Happy to continue the exchange, if you wish.

Christians do not proselytize and condemn the practice. You aren’t a Christian so why are you defining what Christians do? You state you think the God of the Bible is a monster, so you clearly view Christianity and Judaism in a negative way. You aren’t objective at all and wish to argue with me about my religion, and I have no desire to take the thread off topic and start a debate about God, or Christians, or Jewish people, or how you dislike our religions.

Why do you come to a forum about religion? To argue and debate people who are religious, and tell them their God is a monster? It seems you want to convert people who believe in God to atheism, or to believe in your God?

Originally, the Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word "proselyte" into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs. That is why it must be made clear that Christians do not proselytize.

It is sin to use any type of pressure to convert someone, whether it is moral, political or economic.

Proselytizing means caricaturing with unfair criticism the beliefs of others. As you have caricatured Christians and Jews as people who believe in a “monster,” it would be like me saying people who don’t believe in God are “monsters,” and that’s not what God has instructed us to do.

What are your beliefs about insulting religious people? Is that something your parents raised you to do, or is it a practice you have decided to embrace on your own?

Are you anti-Semitic, as you believe the God of the Bible is a monster?

lies

Can you explain where the lies are in this post?

Christians proselytize. Mormons have a whole industry around it.

Mormons are not who I am speaking about, I don’t know what Mormons do.

Christianity does not allow for proselytizing and considers it a sin.

You don't speak for all Christians. Certainly not with your distorted definition of proselytizing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Proselytize has multiple definitions:
To try to convert someone, especially to one's religion
To persuade someone to do or join something, especially by offering an inducement
To recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
To try to persuade people to join a religion, cause, or group

Yes you have the constitutional right to do all of that. You can have a different definition, but arguing over definitions is silly.

And since you told me your God is an awesome god, I will respond by saying there is no evidence he exists, and that is a good thing, because the god of the bible is a freaking horrible monster, in my opinion.

Happy to continue the exchange, if you wish.

Christians do not proselytize and condemn the practice. You aren’t a Christian so why are you defining what Christians do? You state you think the God of the Bible is a monster, so you clearly view Christianity and Judaism in a negative way. You aren’t objective at all and wish to argue with me about my religion, and I have no desire to take the thread off topic and start a debate about God, or Christians, or Jewish people, or how you dislike our religions.

Why do you come to a forum about religion? To argue and debate people who are religious, and tell them their God is a monster? It seems you want to convert people who believe in God to atheism, or to believe in your God?

Originally, the Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word "proselyte" into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs. That is why it must be made clear that Christians do not proselytize.

It is sin to use any type of pressure to convert someone, whether it is moral, political or economic.

Proselytizing means caricaturing with unfair criticism the beliefs of others. As you have caricatured Christians and Jews as people who believe in a “monster,” it would be like me saying people who don’t believe in God are “monsters,” and that’s not what God has instructed us to do.

What are your beliefs about insulting religious people? Is that something your parents raised you to do, or is it a practice you have decided to embrace on your own?

Are you anti-Semitic, as you believe the God of the Bible is a monster?

lies

Can you explain where the lies are in this post?

Christians proselytize. Mormons have a whole industry around it.

Mormons are not who I am speaking about, I don’t know what Mormons do.

Christianity does not allow for proselytizing and considers it a sin.

You don't speak for all Christians. Certainly not with your distorted definition of proselytizing.

I actually do. Christians consider proselytizing sinful.

Are you a Christian and how do you contradict the prohibition of proselytizing? Does your denomination allow it and tell you to force people to convert?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Proselytize has multiple definitions:
To try to convert someone, especially to one's religion
To persuade someone to do or join something, especially by offering an inducement
To recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
To try to persuade people to join a religion, cause, or group

Yes you have the constitutional right to do all of that. You can have a different definition, but arguing over definitions is silly.

And since you told me your God is an awesome god, I will respond by saying there is no evidence he exists, and that is a good thing, because the god of the bible is a freaking horrible monster, in my opinion.

Happy to continue the exchange, if you wish.

Christians do not proselytize and condemn the practice. You aren’t a Christian so why are you defining what Christians do? You state you think the God of the Bible is a monster, so you clearly view Christianity and Judaism in a negative way. You aren’t objective at all and wish to argue with me about my religion, and I have no desire to take the thread off topic and start a debate about God, or Christians, or Jewish people, or how you dislike our religions.

Why do you come to a forum about religion? To argue and debate people who are religious, and tell them their God is a monster? It seems you want to convert people who believe in God to atheism, or to believe in your God?

Originally, the Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word "proselyte" into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs. That is why it must be made clear that Christians do not proselytize.

It is sin to use any type of pressure to convert someone, whether it is moral, political or economic.

Proselytizing means caricaturing with unfair criticism the beliefs of others. As you have caricatured Christians and Jews as people who believe in a “monster,” it would be like me saying people who don’t believe in God are “monsters,” and that’s not what God has instructed us to do.

What are your beliefs about insulting religious people? Is that something your parents raised you to do, or is it a practice you have decided to embrace on your own?

Are you anti-Semitic, as you believe the God of the Bible is a monster?

lies

Can you explain where the lies are in this post?

Christians proselytize. Mormons have a whole industry around it.

Mormons are not who I am speaking about, I don’t know what Mormons do.

Christianity does not allow for proselytizing and considers it a sin.

You don't speak for all Christians. Certainly not with your distorted definition of proselytizing.

I actually do. Christians consider proselytizing sinful.

Are you a Christian and how do you contradict the prohibition of proselytizing? Does your denomination allow it and tell you to force people to convert?

No, you don't speak for all Christians. As if they all ever agreed on anything.

You already admitted you don't know what Mormons do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Proselytize has multiple definitions:
To try to convert someone, especially to one's religion
To persuade someone to do or join something, especially by offering an inducement
To recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
To try to persuade people to join a religion, cause, or group

Yes you have the constitutional right to do all of that. You can have a different definition, but arguing over definitions is silly.

And since you told me your God is an awesome god, I will respond by saying there is no evidence he exists, and that is a good thing, because the god of the bible is a freaking horrible monster, in my opinion.

Happy to continue the exchange, if you wish.

Christians do not proselytize and condemn the practice. You aren’t a Christian so why are you defining what Christians do? You state you think the God of the Bible is a monster, so you clearly view Christianity and Judaism in a negative way. You aren’t objective at all and wish to argue with me about my religion, and I have no desire to take the thread off topic and start a debate about God, or Christians, or Jewish people, or how you dislike our religions.

Why do you come to a forum about religion? To argue and debate people who are religious, and tell them their God is a monster? It seems you want to convert people who believe in God to atheism, or to believe in your God?

Originally, the Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word "proselyte" into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs. That is why it must be made clear that Christians do not proselytize.

It is sin to use any type of pressure to convert someone, whether it is moral, political or economic.

Proselytizing means caricaturing with unfair criticism the beliefs of others. As you have caricatured Christians and Jews as people who believe in a “monster,” it would be like me saying people who don’t believe in God are “monsters,” and that’s not what God has instructed us to do.

What are your beliefs about insulting religious people? Is that something your parents raised you to do, or is it a practice you have decided to embrace on your own?

Are you anti-Semitic, as you believe the God of the Bible is a monster?

lies

Can you explain where the lies are in this post?

Christians proselytize. Mormons have a whole industry around it.

Mormons are not who I am speaking about, I don’t know what Mormons do.

Christianity does not allow for proselytizing and considers it a sin.

You don't speak for all Christians. Certainly not with your distorted definition of proselytizing.

I actually do. Christians consider proselytizing sinful.

Are you a Christian and how do you contradict the prohibition of proselytizing? Does your denomination allow it and tell you to force people to convert?

Plenty of Christians will tell you that what they are doing is proselytizing. Here’s the first result that popped up.

https://www.baptiststandard.com/marvs-blog/myblog/proselytism-a-faith/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?

NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?

Proselytizing doesn't mean 'forced".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?

NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.

+1

SCOTUS religious extremists are forcing their religion on me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Proselytize has multiple definitions:
To try to convert someone, especially to one's religion
To persuade someone to do or join something, especially by offering an inducement
To recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
To try to persuade people to join a religion, cause, or group

Yes you have the constitutional right to do all of that. You can have a different definition, but arguing over definitions is silly.

And since you told me your God is an awesome god, I will respond by saying there is no evidence he exists, and that is a good thing, because the god of the bible is a freaking horrible monster, in my opinion.

Happy to continue the exchange, if you wish.

Christians do not proselytize and condemn the practice. You aren’t a Christian so why are you defining what Christians do? You state you think the God of the Bible is a monster, so you clearly view Christianity and Judaism in a negative way. You aren’t objective at all and wish to argue with me about my religion, and I have no desire to take the thread off topic and start a debate about God, or Christians, or Jewish people, or how you dislike our religions.

Why do you come to a forum about religion? To argue and debate people who are religious, and tell them their God is a monster? It seems you want to convert people who believe in God to atheism, or to believe in your God?

Originally, the Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word "proselyte" into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs. That is why it must be made clear that Christians do not proselytize.

It is sin to use any type of pressure to convert someone, whether it is moral, political or economic.

Proselytizing means caricaturing with unfair criticism the beliefs of others. As you have caricatured Christians and Jews as people who believe in a “monster,” it would be like me saying people who don’t believe in God are “monsters,” and that’s not what God has instructed us to do.

What are your beliefs about insulting religious people? Is that something your parents raised you to do, or is it a practice you have decided to embrace on your own?

Are you anti-Semitic, as you believe the God of the Bible is a monster?

lies

Can you explain where the lies are in this post?

Christians proselytize. Mormons have a whole industry around it.

Mormons are not who I am speaking about, I don’t know what Mormons do.

Christianity does not allow for proselytizing and considers it a sin.

You don't speak for all Christians. Certainly not with your distorted definition of proselytizing.

I actually do. Christians consider proselytizing sinful.

Are you a Christian and how do you contradict the prohibition of proselytizing? Does your denomination allow it and tell you to force people to convert?

Plenty of Christians will tell you that what they are doing is proselytizing. Here’s the first result that popped up.

https://www.baptiststandard.com/marvs-blog/myblog/proselytism-a-faith/

“But testifying to one's faith is not an imposition on others. Everyone everywhere should have the right to express religious convictions freely. "For Christians, this is an act of love, not an act of hostility," Land correctly noted. People who believe Jesus is the way to eternal life and fulfillment in this life share their faith because they love and care for others and desire that all people would experience the best thing that could ever happen to them—a saving relationship with Jesus the Christ.“

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?

NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.

+1

SCOTUS religious extremists are forcing their religion on me.

No, states are making laws you didn’t like. You don’t like that, and it’s not anything religion is doing to you. How are state laws religious?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?

NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.

What beliefs and traditions are you referring to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?

Proselytizing doesn't mean 'forced".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

Christians do not make people believe in God. That’s impossible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?

NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.

What beliefs and traditions are you referring to?

I'm referring to abortion. Most Muslims and Jews don't have such strict ideas about abortion, as Christians do -- yet we're subject to being forced to have conservative Christian ideas being forced on us and our bodily choices. This is a fact, and I don't know how you can pretend to be so naive that the anti-abortion trend isn't being driven by Christian proselytizing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP seems unfamiliar with the general definitions that are widely used, including on DCUM.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proselytize
intransitive verb
1: to induce someone to convert to one's faith
2: to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
transitive verb
: to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/evangelize
transitive verb
1: to preach the gospel to
2: to convert to Christianity
intransitive verb
: to preach the gospel

Mormons systematically proselytize
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/05/19/mormon-land-ever-evolving/
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/magazine/how-to-proselytize.html

If people weren't "proselytizing" then people all over the world wouldn't be concerned about it
https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-christians-evangelicals-proselytizing-217563437f499aec3d865e2f009ddac9
https://www.ncronline.org/news/evangelicals-vatican-reach-accord-proselytizing
https://www.brigada.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OSAC-Proselytizing-Report-Country-List.pdf

OP, you should expand your vocabulary.

The meaning of the word proselytism has changed over time. The Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament passed the word ‘proselyte’ into modern languages with a neutral meaning. It simply meant a convert, someone who changed his or her opinion or religion. And, proselytism meant the attempt to persuade someone to make such a change. But, today proselytism is almost universally seen as a sinister activity when it comes to religious beliefs.

The use of coercion of any kind today described as proselytism is always wrong and to be condemned.

Proselytizing takes many forms, some of which are unethical, such as coercion or trying to convert vulnerable people.

And proselytizing is condemned by Christians. When have you been forced to believe, accept, or listen to a Christian talk about their faith?

NP.

Uh, by most politicians in the United States? We've also been forced to have their faith pushed on us, despite our own beliefs and traditions.

What beliefs and traditions are you referring to?

I'm referring to abortion. Most Muslims and Jews don't have such strict ideas about abortion, as Christians do -- yet we're subject to being forced to have conservative Christian ideas being forced on us and our bodily choices. This is a fact, and I don't know how you can pretend to be so naive that the anti-abortion trend isn't being driven by Christian proselytizing.

Abortion is your religious belief and tradition?