My 68 year old, retired dad had to call security thrice and was shoved while subbing

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Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

Just tell us you do not know what a prosecutor does for a living-

I do know, quite well, what at least some prosecutors do for a living. And that’s how I know that the skill sets don’t overlap very much.

LOL

But why don’t you give a list of the people that you will allow to sub for you since someone that deals with felons doesn’t qualify.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

MCPS admin has entered the chat. Always blame the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior.

How is saying that subs deserve training and support blaming “the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior”?

Using educator training and support as a solve for UNACCEPTABLE student behavior, such as cursing at teachers or physically assaulting them, is justifying the student's behavior and BLAMING the teacher for the unacceptable behavior.

The only response and solution to a student behaving inappropriately and against the law and the school's code of conduct is for the STUDENT to be held accountable and corrected.

I don't care if the teacher is "boring" or not culturally relevant enough to hold the attendance of YouTube and TikTok-addicted children. Being boring or "not engaging enough" is not a reason to be cursed at or hit. Unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

MCPS admin has entered the chat. Always blame the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior.

How is saying that subs deserve training and support blaming “the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior”?

Using educator training and support as a solve for UNACCEPTABLE student behavior, such as cursing at teachers or physically assaulting them, is justifying the student's behavior and BLAMING the teacher for the unacceptable behavior.

The only response and solution to a student behaving inappropriately and against the law and the school's code of conduct is for the STUDENT to be held accountable and corrected.

I don't care if the teacher is "boring" or not culturally relevant enough to hold the attendance of YouTube and TikTok-addicted children. Being boring or "not engaging enough" is not a reason to be cursed at or hit. Unacceptable.

If a person assaults another, they need to file charges with MCPD. MCPS isn't equipped to deal with violent crime. The police are...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

MCPS admin has entered the chat. Always blame the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior.

How is saying that subs deserve training and support blaming “the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior”?

Using educator training and support as a solve for UNACCEPTABLE student behavior, such as cursing at teachers or physically assaulting them, is justifying the student's behavior and BLAMING the teacher for the unacceptable behavior.

The only response and solution to a student behaving inappropriately and against the law and the school's code of conduct is for the STUDENT to be held accountable and corrected.

I don't care if the teacher is "boring" or not culturally relevant enough to hold the attendance of YouTube and TikTok-addicted children. Being boring or "not engaging enough" is not a reason to be cursed at or hit. Unacceptable.

No, actually it’s not. If a job includes “UNACCEPTABLE student behavior” it really does make sense for teachers and subs to have training in — wait for it: handling unacceptable behavior.

Training teachers and subs to safely handle unacceptable student behavior in no way prevents holding students accountable for their behavior or from correcting such behavior.

No one, least of all me, has suggested whatever it is you’re going on about with your last comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

Just tell us you do not know what a prosecutor does for a living-

I do know, quite well, what at least some prosecutors do for a living. And that’s how I know that the skill sets don’t overlap very much.

At least they know how to file assault charges

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

MCPS admin has entered the chat. Always blame the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior.

How is saying that subs deserve training and support blaming “the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior”?

Using educator training and support as a solve for UNACCEPTABLE student behavior, such as cursing at teachers or physically assaulting them, is justifying the student's behavior and BLAMING the teacher for the unacceptable behavior.

The only response and solution to a student behaving inappropriately and against the law and the school's code of conduct is for the STUDENT to be held accountable and corrected.

I don't care if the teacher is "boring" or not culturally relevant enough to hold the attendance of YouTube and TikTok-addicted children. Being boring or "not engaging enough" is not a reason to be cursed at or hit. Unacceptable.

No, actually it’s not. If a job includes “UNACCEPTABLE student behavior” it really does make sense for teachers and subs to have training in — wait for it: handling unacceptable behavior.

Training teachers and subs to safely handle unacceptable student behavior in no way prevents holding students accountable for their behavior or from correcting such behavior.

No one, least of all me, has suggested whatever it is you’re going on about with your last comment.

You are making an assumption that this man has not HAD whatever training you're talking about. The reality is training can teach you how to RESPOND to unacceptable student behavior but it does not have the PREVENTATIVE effect you are claiming.

Your instinct in hearing this story was to immediately say the teacher was responsible for the student who shoved him. That speaks to who you view as accountable for the behavior and that's what I'm telling you is awful and unfair to educators who accept having to engage and coax learning and education out of students who might not be interested. But most teachers are NOT signing up to get hit. Especially at the middle and high school age. Maybe at the pre-K and early elementary levels, that's to be more expected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

Just tell us you do not know what a prosecutor does for a living-

I do know, quite well, what at least some prosecutors do for a living. And that’s how I know that the skill sets don’t overlap very much.

LOL

But why don’t you give a list of the people that you will allow to sub for you since someone that deals with felons doesn’t qualify.

Teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

Just tell us you do not know what a prosecutor does for a living-

I do know, quite well, what at least some prosecutors do for a living. And that’s how I know that the skill sets don’t overlap very much.

LOL

But why don’t you give a list of the people that you will allow to sub for you since someone that deals with felons doesn’t qualify.

Teachers.

Who are leaving the profession in droves and don't want to teach their own classes much less serve as subs for other teachers' classes....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

Just tell us you do not know what a prosecutor does for a living-

I do know, quite well, what at least some prosecutors do for a living. And that’s how I know that the skill sets don’t overlap very much.

At least they know how to file assault charges

Not really. They don't file charges, cops do. They decide with ones to prosecute and usually it's the ones that make them look good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

Just tell us you do not know what a prosecutor does for a living-

I do know, quite well, what at least some prosecutors do for a living. And that’s how I know that the skill sets don’t overlap very much.

LOL

But why don’t you give a list of the people that you will allow to sub for you since someone that deals with felons doesn’t qualify.

Teachers.

Who are leaving the profession in droves and don't want to teach their own classes much less serve as subs for other teachers' classes....

Well 10 years ago it was impossible to find a teaching job. Perhaps we should not have shunned so many capable people. We created this situation, not kids.

You pay crap and cut budgets and have classrooms that are too big and hire lawyers to teach... well I'm not really feeling like the kids are the problem.

[Anonymous]

Back in the day that kid would be shipped off to reform school with hardcore military superiors.

The message got through. Average kids got an education that meant something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

MCPS admin has entered the chat. Always blame the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior.

How is saying that subs deserve training and support blaming “the teacher, not the children, for their bad behavior”?

Using educator training and support as a solve for UNACCEPTABLE student behavior, such as cursing at teachers or physically assaulting them, is justifying the student's behavior and BLAMING the teacher for the unacceptable behavior.

The only response and solution to a student behaving inappropriately and against the law and the school's code of conduct is for the STUDENT to be held accountable and corrected.

I don't care if the teacher is "boring" or not culturally relevant enough to hold the attendance of YouTube and TikTok-addicted children. Being boring or "not engaging enough" is not a reason to be cursed at or hit. Unacceptable.

No, actually it’s not. If a job includes “UNACCEPTABLE student behavior” it really does make sense for teachers and subs to have training in — wait for it: handling unacceptable behavior.

Training teachers and subs to safely handle unacceptable student behavior in no way prevents holding students accountable for their behavior or from correcting such behavior.

No one, least of all me, has suggested whatever it is you’re going on about with your last comment.

You are making an assumption that this man has not HAD whatever training you're talking about. The reality is training can teach you how to RESPOND to unacceptable student behavior but it does not have the PREVENTATIVE effect you are claiming.

Your instinct in hearing this story was to immediately say the teacher was responsible for the student who shoved him. That speaks to who you view as accountable for the behavior and that's what I'm telling you is awful and unfair to educators who accept having to engage and coax learning and education out of students who might not be interested. But most teachers are NOT signing up to get hit. Especially at the middle and high school age. Maybe at the pre-K and early elementary levels, that's to be more expected.

1. Where have I claimed that training subs has a “PREVENTATIVE “ effect?

2. Yes, I am making the assumption that a temporary sub has had minimal if any training for the position. If you know of any training that’s offered to temporary subs in Montgomery County, please correct my assumptions.m

3. Nope. That’s not my assumption. None of it.

[Anonymous]

I’m also a retired prosecutor- younger, but quit that line of work after a half dozen years because I couldn’t stand all the brokenness and injustice.

I’m about to start a new career in public school teaching. I have a few years of prior experience teaching intro college level courses but am looking to teach elementary school level around grades 4-5, I think.

I fully expect to see aberrant behavior in some percentage of the students both at the Title I schools where I’ll be starting (Teach for America), and at more affluent schools if I end up transitioning there. There should be no surprise in this, especially not for someone who spent a career as a prosecutor and has intimate understanding of the frailty of human character.

Some of us are born bad, some of us steered bad by negative parenting or some other kind of abuse we suffer in early childhood. Usually at some point in school age years some evidence of maladaptive behaviors will emerge. That means some percent of kids will not be able to follow the rules and will act out, sometimes violently.

If we look around us we see aberrant behaviors everywhere, adult humans who cannot follow rules or control their impulses. Why do we expect any different in schools and from school aged humans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back in the day that kid would be shipped off to reform school with hardcore military superiors.

The message got through. Average kids got an education that meant something.

Not sure what "back in the day" was for you. But in the 80's kids smoked in the school, they came to school drunk/stoned, they fought regularly and never got suspended teachers just broke it up, teachers were dating student (my neighbor married her teacher after HS graduation), teachers showed up to keg party graduations.

What planet do you live on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Title one schools in affluent area hum…

I included the identifier in order to explain; my sister and I teach at Title I schools (as an aside, my school is a 5 min drive to pike and rose. So yes, we have Title I in affluent zones). At our schools, violence and assault is the norm.

I simply wanted to convey: my dad was NOT at a school like ours. The school he was at is one where this type of behavior would NOT be expected (it shouldn’t be expected anywhere, anyways). And it STILL happened.

That’s fascinating. I’ve worked in multiple Title I schools in some extremely challenging urban neighborhoods in Mid-Atlantic cities. In none of them were “violence and assault…the norm”. In any case, “norms” don’t always correlate perfectly with individual behavior.

Since you haven’t provided any details about what happened, perhaps your Dad isn’t cut out to be a sub — or would benefit from support and training in classroom management. Going from being a prosecutor to a job that requires the ability to immediately connect in positive ways with kids — both individually and in groups — is a huge shift, and might require a decidedly different skill set for everyone’s safety and well-being. Subbing is hard. Viewing it as “essentially volunteering “ despite presumably collecting a pay check might not be the best tack to take. Your conclusions about “absolute insanity and anarchy “ don’t bode well for our future as a community if people holding such views are teaching our kids.

Just tell us you do not know what a prosecutor does for a living-

I do know, quite well, what at least some prosecutors do for a living. And that’s how I know that the skill sets don’t overlap very much.

So, prison guard or navy seal would be best suited, or...