WE WANT SCHOOL WIDE SOL SCORES

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on FCPS!

FCPS used to release all this data on their school profiles. The state VA Dept of Education no longer allows that--they want to control all the data releases. Blame them not FCPS.

They never released individual scores. The other thing is if kids fail but make progress from previous year it counts as a pass.

They released all the percentages of Pass Proficient, Pass Advanced, and not Passing. CLose enough.

Yes, but these tests are unfair to ESL kids. So the data is skewed.

Some kids are exempt from taking them.

Very few kids are exempt - a tiny fraction of a percent.

What does this matter?

Why does it matter? Because a PP was saying many ESL kids are exempt. Implying that schools with high ESL populations have a shot at a good score because so many kids are exempt. They are not exempt. It matters because kids who have been in the US less than a year are expected to take and pass these tests. It matters because kids who have been in this country 2 or 3 years are expected to take and pass these tests.

And when they don’t pass and a school with a lot of ESL students gets a low score everyone likes to say how bad the school is. Or how great their own school is when really it’s just a school of fortunate white, born in the USA upper income parents who succeeded in having a white born in the USA kid who goes to a school filled with other upper middle income white kids.

SOL scores mean NOTHING unless looked at in context.

Why do people like you have to always sh*t on white people? You could have made your same point without bringing race into it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shame on FCPS!

FCPS used to release all this data on their school profiles. The state VA Dept of Education no longer allows that--they want to control all the data releases. Blame them not FCPS.

They never released individual scores. The other thing is if kids fail but make progress from previous year it counts as a pass.

They released all the percentages of Pass Proficient, Pass Advanced, and not Passing. CLose enough.

Yes, but these tests are unfair to ESL kids. So the data is skewed.

Some kids are exempt from taking them.

Very few kids are exempt - a tiny fraction of a percent.

What does this matter?

Why does it matter? Because a PP was saying many ESL kids are exempt. Implying that schools with high ESL populations have a shot at a good score because so many kids are exempt. They are not exempt. It matters because kids who have been in the US less than a year are expected to take and pass these tests. It matters because kids who have been in this country 2 or 3 years are expected to take and pass these tests.

And when they don’t pass and a school with a lot of ESL students gets a low score everyone likes to say how bad the school is. Or how great their own school is when really it’s just a school of fortunate white, born in the USA upper income parents who succeeded in having a white born in the USA kid who goes to a school filled with other upper middle income white kids.

SOL scores mean NOTHING unless looked at in context.

Why do people like you have to always sh*t on white people? You could have made your same point without bringing race into it.

Pointing out privilege isn’t “sh*tting” on white people. DP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shame on FCPS!

FCPS used to release all this data on their school profiles. The state VA Dept of Education no longer allows that--they want to control all the data releases. Blame them not FCPS.

They never released individual scores. The other thing is if kids fail but make progress from previous year it counts as a pass.

They released all the percentages of Pass Proficient, Pass Advanced, and not Passing. CLose enough.

Yes, but these tests are unfair to ESL kids. So the data is skewed.

Some kids are exempt from taking them.

Very few kids are exempt - a tiny fraction of a percent.

What does this matter?

Why does it matter? Because a PP was saying many ESL kids are exempt. Implying that schools with high ESL populations have a shot at a good score because so many kids are exempt. They are not exempt. It matters because kids who have been in the US less than a year are expected to take and pass these tests. It matters because kids who have been in this country 2 or 3 years are expected to take and pass these tests.

And when they don’t pass and a school with a lot of ESL students gets a low score everyone likes to say how bad the school is. Or how great their own school is when really it’s just a school of fortunate white, born in the USA upper income parents who succeeded in having a white born in the USA kid who goes to a school filled with other upper middle income white kids.

SOL scores mean NOTHING unless looked at in context.

Why do people like you have to always sh*t on white people? You could have made your same point without bringing race into it.

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I’m white and didn’t think the comment “sh*t on” my race. It was a factual statement. There are reasons certain schools do better than others on the SOLs. We chose a school with high scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/virginia-delays-releasing-school-sol-pass-rates-august-31-2023

Richmond Public Schools “accidentally” published the preliminary state wide results. Basically stagnant results from last year. The state is claiming that the delays are due to the school districts appealing their results and doing retakes.

In the Twitter thread, I posted above there are several screenshots from that accidental publication which has since been removed from Richmond, Public schools board docs

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/virginia-delays-releasing-school-sol-pass-rates-august-31-2023

Richmond Public Schools “accidentally” published the preliminary state wide results. Basically stagnant results from last year. The state is claiming that the delays are due to the school districts appealing their results and doing retakes.

In the Twitter thread, I posted above there are several screenshots from that accidental publication which has since been removed from Richmond, Public schools board docs

I can't see those without logging into twitter and no longer have an account.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shame on FCPS!

FCPS used to release all this data on their school profiles. The state VA Dept of Education no longer allows that--they want to control all the data releases. Blame them not FCPS.

They never released individual scores. The other thing is if kids fail but make progress from previous year it counts as a pass.

They released all the percentages of Pass Proficient, Pass Advanced, and not Passing. CLose enough.

Yes, but these tests are unfair to ESL kids. So the data is skewed.

Some kids are exempt from taking them.

Very few kids are exempt - a tiny fraction of a percent.

What does this matter?

Why does it matter? Because a PP was saying many ESL kids are exempt. Implying that schools with high ESL populations have a shot at a good score because so many kids are exempt. They are not exempt. It matters because kids who have been in the US less than a year are expected to take and pass these tests. It matters because kids who have been in this country 2 or 3 years are expected to take and pass these tests.

And when they don’t pass and a school with a lot of ESL students gets a low score everyone likes to say how bad the school is. Or how great their own school is when really it’s just a school of fortunate white, born in the USA upper income parents who succeeded in having a white born in the USA kid who goes to a school filled with other upper middle income white kids.

SOL scores mean NOTHING unless looked at in context.

Why do people like you have to always sh*t on white people? You could have made your same point without bringing race into it.

Pointing out privilege isn’t “sh*tting” on white people. DP.

Not all rich people are white. Not all white people are rich.

[Anonymous]

But all things being equal, white people do have privilege over non-whites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But all things being equal, white people do have privilege over non-whites.

The objectionable post was criticizing the privilege of white born in the US people - as if being an American in America is something to be scorned.

SMH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shame on FCPS!

FCPS used to release all this data on their school profiles. The state VA Dept of Education no longer allows that--they want to control all the data releases. Blame them not FCPS.

They never released individual scores. The other thing is if kids fail but make progress from previous year it counts as a pass.

They released all the percentages of Pass Proficient, Pass Advanced, and not Passing. CLose enough.

Yes, but these tests are unfair to ESL kids. So the data is skewed.

Some kids are exempt from taking them.

Very few kids are exempt - a tiny fraction of a percent.

What does this matter?

Why does it matter? Because a PP was saying many ESL kids are exempt. Implying that schools with high ESL populations have a shot at a good score because so many kids are exempt. They are not exempt. It matters because kids who have been in the US less than a year are expected to take and pass these tests. It matters because kids who have been in this country 2 or 3 years are expected to take and pass these tests.

And when they don’t pass and a school with a lot of ESL students gets a low score everyone likes to say how bad the school is. Or how great their own school is when really it’s just a school of fortunate white, born in the USA upper income parents who succeeded in having a white born in the USA kid who goes to a school filled with other upper middle income white kids.

SOL scores mean NOTHING unless looked at in context.

Why do people like you have to always sh*t on white people? You could have made your same point without bringing race into it.

I wrote the comment and I’m white - white bread white. And I grew up going to upper middle class nearly all white schools. And as an adult if you don’t have any idea that the background, opportunities, and privileges of USA-born whites and ESL students are vastly different, then there is just no hope for you at this point. You are willfully ignorant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But all things being equal, white people do have privilege over non-whites.

The objectionable post was criticizing the privilege of white born in the US people - as if being an American in America is something to be scorned.

SMH

It wasn’t “criticizing” that at all. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But all things being equal, white people do have privilege over non-whites.

The objectionable post was criticizing the privilege of white born in the US people - as if being an American in America is something to be scorned.

SMH

It wasn’t “criticizing” that at all. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

Lol

What do you think "privilege" means in this context? It ain't a compliment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shame on FCPS!

FCPS used to release all this data on their school profiles. The state VA Dept of Education no longer allows that--they want to control all the data releases. Blame them not FCPS.

They never released individual scores. The other thing is if kids fail but make progress from previous year it counts as a pass.

They released all the percentages of Pass Proficient, Pass Advanced, and not Passing. CLose enough.

Yes, but these tests are unfair to ESL kids. So the data is skewed.

Some kids are exempt from taking them.

Very few kids are exempt - a tiny fraction of a percent.

What does this matter?

Why does it matter? Because a PP was saying many ESL kids are exempt. Implying that schools with high ESL populations have a shot at a good score because so many kids are exempt. They are not exempt. It matters because kids who have been in the US less than a year are expected to take and pass these tests. It matters because kids who have been in this country 2 or 3 years are expected to take and pass these tests.

And when they don’t pass and a school with a lot of ESL students gets a low score everyone likes to say how bad the school is. Or how great their own school is when really it’s just a school of fortunate white, born in the USA upper income parents who succeeded in having a white born in the USA kid who goes to a school filled with other upper middle income white kids.

SOL scores mean NOTHING unless looked at in context.

Why do people like you have to always sh*t on white people? You could have made your same point without bringing race into it.

I wrote the comment and I’m white - white bread white. And I grew up going to upper middle class nearly all white schools. And as an adult if you don’t have any idea that the background, opportunities, and privileges of USA-born whites and ESL students are vastly different, then there is just no hope for you at this point. You are willfully ignorant.

I'm not willfully ignorant at all. In my part of town, most of the high performing schools are majority Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shame on FCPS!

FCPS used to release all this data on their school profiles. The state VA Dept of Education no longer allows that--they want to control all the data releases. Blame them not FCPS.

They never released individual scores. The other thing is if kids fail but make progress from previous year it counts as a pass.

They released all the percentages of Pass Proficient, Pass Advanced, and not Passing. CLose enough.

Yes, but these tests are unfair to ESL kids. So the data is skewed.

Some kids are exempt from taking them.

Very few kids are exempt - a tiny fraction of a percent.

What does this matter?

Why does it matter? Because a PP was saying many ESL kids are exempt. Implying that schools with high ESL populations have a shot at a good score because so many kids are exempt. They are not exempt. It matters because kids who have been in the US less than a year are expected to take and pass these tests. It matters because kids who have been in this country 2 or 3 years are expected to take and pass these tests.

And when they don’t pass and a school with a lot of ESL students gets a low score everyone likes to say how bad the school is. Or how great their own school is when really it’s just a school of fortunate white, born in the USA upper income parents who succeeded in having a white born in the USA kid who goes to a school filled with other upper middle income white kids.

SOL scores mean NOTHING unless looked at in context.

Why do people like you have to always sh*t on white people? You could have made your same point without bringing race into it.

Pointing out privilege isn’t “sh*tting” on white people. DP.

Not all rich people are white. Not all white people are rich.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But all things being equal, white people do have privilege over non-whites.

Ok, but we are individuals, not categories. There are many non-whites who have more privilege than me, including access to better schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is infuriating OP. I cannot for the life of me understand why this is so hard for them. I can't help but think the results dismal and they want time to pass so people forget about it.

These scores absolutely matter. They are an indicator of the competency of the school administration, a measure of the academic level the students are at, and indicator of teacher strength. These are all important factors if one is moving to FCPS to see which are school is the best for their kid.

These scores do not matter. There are kids who don’t speak English being forced to take these tests. It only matters how your kid does.

Exactly.
And there are ways to know which schools are best to be avoided.
Simple.