Student Culture at Yorktown HS

[Anonymous]

I hate that we have to have this argument again and again. College admission rates or statistics do not necessarily indicate anything about the teaching or quality of the school. They do show that the student body is likely high income, has educated parents, and values education. Yes, all those things matter when it comes to student experience but it doesn't not necessarily mean your kid is getting a better education.

Similar kids with similar stats are getting into similar schools at all Arlington high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate that we have to have this argument again and again. College admission rates or statistics do not necessarily indicate anything about the teaching or quality of the school. They do show that the student body is likely high income, has educated parents, and values education. Yes, all those things matter when it comes to student experience but it doesn't not necessarily mean your kid is getting a better education.

Similar kids with similar stats are getting into similar schools at all Arlington high schools.

I’m the PP who posted about UVa taking 10% from W&L and YHS. You aren’t correct—at least as to UVa. Check the Arlington magazine numbers. I’m not saying your education is worse at Wakefield or that there aren’t tons of bright kids or that kids aren’t getting in to top schools from Wakefield. I am merely saying what every rational person understands; the population at Wakefield has greater socioeconomic challenges which is reflected in the college outcomes. Period. That’s it. No judgment. But Wakefield people will still get mad. And I also people that it can be advantageous for certain kids who do very well at Wakefield to be coming from the more disadvantaged school (in terms of college placement).

[Anonymous]

This is exactly what she just said

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that we have to have this argument again and again. College admission rates or statistics do not necessarily indicate anything about the teaching or quality of the school. They do show that the student body is likely high income, has educated parents, and values education. Yes, all those things matter when it comes to student experience but it doesn't not necessarily mean your kid is getting a better education.

Similar kids with similar stats are getting into similar schools at all Arlington high schools.

I’m the PP who posted about UVa taking 10% from W&L and YHS. You aren’t correct—at least as to UVa. Check the Arlington magazine numbers. I’m not saying your education is worse at Wakefield or that there aren’t tons of bright kids or that kids aren’t getting in to top schools from Wakefield. I am merely saying what every rational person understands; the population at Wakefield has greater socioeconomic challenges which is reflected in the college outcomes. Period. That’s it. No judgment. But Wakefield people will still get mad. And I also people that it can be advantageous for certain kids who do very well at Wakefield to be coming from the more disadvantaged school (in terms of college placement).

Not that PP, but you seem to be ignoring how many kids apply. For past few years at least, 20-25% of kids applying to UVA are accepted from ALL THREE comprehensive APS high schools. Fewer kids from WHS apply to begin with. But the percentages are roughly the same (actually sometimes a little lower for YHS because so many apply).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“That environment” would you care to explain what you think “that environment” is that’s so scary

Scary? Oh geez lady. Hyperbole much?

I acknowledge that there are significant disparities between W&L and YHS as compared to Wakefield — college admission results being a result of many of those. Are you pretending it’s exactly the same as the other two (large) public schools? And, 100%, people everyday choose NOT to send their children to Wakefield. In this county alone, are the N Arlington parents lining up to transfer this kids to Wakefield? Nope.

Actually, there are quite a few of us N Arlington families zoned for YHS who send our kids to WHS for the immersion program. There are no neighborhood transfers to Wakefield, because there’s no room.

Actually how many is “quite a few” relative to the populations of W&L and YHS? Actually you are in the vast vast tiny minority. Super glad you exist and all but just because you can point to an anecdote does not invalidate the premise that N Arlington families don’t want Wakefield.

Sure, we are in the minority. But your statement about N Arlington families “not wanting” WHS doesn’t make sense, given that NA kids aren’t zoned for WHS, and it’s not even an option unless they are in immersion. So who cares if they “don’t want it”? And I do know a lot of families who actively avoid YHS. But I think kids can have a good experience at any of the high schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that we have to have this argument again and again. College admission rates or statistics do not necessarily indicate anything about the teaching or quality of the school. They do show that the student body is likely high income, has educated parents, and values education. Yes, all those things matter when it comes to student experience but it doesn't not necessarily mean your kid is getting a better education.

Similar kids with similar stats are getting into similar schools at all Arlington high schools.

I’m the PP who posted about UVa taking 10% from W&L and YHS. You aren’t correct—at least as to UVa. Check the Arlington magazine numbers. I’m not saying your education is worse at Wakefield or that there aren’t tons of bright kids or that kids aren’t getting in to top schools from Wakefield. I am merely saying what every rational person understands; the population at Wakefield has greater socioeconomic challenges which is reflected in the college outcomes. Period. That’s it. No judgment. But Wakefield people will still get mad. And I also people that it can be advantageous for certain kids who do very well at Wakefield to be coming from the more disadvantaged school (in terms of college placement).

Not that PP, but you seem to be ignoring how many kids apply. For past few years at least, 20-25% of kids applying to UVA are accepted from ALL THREE comprehensive APS high schools. Fewer kids from WHS apply to begin with. But the percentages are roughly the same (actually sometimes a little lower for YHS because so many apply).

Curious how you would know this? Admittance data — but not matriculation data — is published by Arlington magazine. How do you know how many kids from each HS in Arlington apply and are admitted?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate that we have to have this argument again and again. College admission rates or statistics do not necessarily indicate anything about the teaching or quality of the school. They do show that the student body is likely high income, has educated parents, and values education. Yes, all those things matter when it comes to student experience but it doesn't not necessarily mean your kid is getting a better education.

Similar kids with similar stats are getting into similar schools at all Arlington high schools.

I’m the PP who posted about UVa taking 10% from W&L and YHS. You aren’t correct—at least as to UVa. Check the Arlington magazine numbers. I’m not saying your education is worse at Wakefield or that there aren’t tons of bright kids or that kids aren’t getting in to top schools from Wakefield. I am merely saying what every rational person understands; the population at Wakefield has greater socioeconomic challenges which is reflected in the college outcomes. Period. That’s it. No judgment. But Wakefield people will still get mad. And I also people that it can be advantageous for certain kids who do very well at Wakefield to be coming from the more disadvantaged school (in terms of college placement).

Not that PP, but you seem to be ignoring how many kids apply. For past few years at least, 20-25% of kids applying to UVA are accepted from ALL THREE comprehensive APS high schools. Fewer kids from WHS apply to begin with. But the percentages are roughly the same (actually sometimes a little lower for YHS because so many apply).

Curious how you would know this? Admittance data — but not matriculation data — is published by Arlington magazine. How do you know how many kids from each HS in Arlington apply and are admitted?

Because Arlington magazine lists how many applied and were admitted from each high school. For example: https://www.arlingtonmagazine.com/where-arlingtons-class-of-2021-applied-to-college-and-got-in/

[Anonymous]

25 out of 99 got into UVA from Wakefield vs 41 out of 241 at Yorktown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:25 out of 99 got into UVA from Wakefield vs 41 out of 241 at Yorktown.

So a higher % of Wakefield students got in than Yorktown students? Or do I not know what to do math lol.

Nearly 25% of Wakefield students compared to 17% of Yorktown kids (out of those that applied)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“That environment” would you care to explain what you think “that environment” is that’s so scary

Scary? Oh geez lady. Hyperbole much?

I acknowledge that there are significant disparities between W&L and YHS as compared to Wakefield — college admission results being a result of many of those. Are you pretending it’s exactly the same as the other two (large) public schools? And, 100%, people everyday choose NOT to send their children to Wakefield. In this county alone, are the N Arlington parents lining up to transfer this kids to Wakefield? Nope.

100%, people every day choose NOT to send their chidren to Yorktown. South Arlington families are not lining up to transfer their kids to Yorktown, either. Some choose W-L and maybe more SA families are lining up for W-L. Haven't seen the waitlist, so I don't know just how long that line they're forming is.
Nobody said all the schools are the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“That environment” would you care to explain what you think “that environment” is that’s so scary

Scary? Oh geez lady. Hyperbole much?

I acknowledge that there are significant disparities between W&L and YHS as compared to Wakefield — college admission results being a result of many of those. Are you pretending it’s exactly the same as the other two (large) public schools? And, 100%, people everyday choose NOT to send their children to Wakefield. In this county alone, are the N Arlington parents lining up to transfer this kids to Wakefield? Nope.

Actually, there are quite a few of us N Arlington families zoned for YHS who send our kids to WHS for the immersion program. There are no neighborhood transfers to Wakefield, because there’s no room.

Actually how many is “quite a few” relative to the populations of W&L and YHS? Actually you are in the vast vast tiny minority. Super glad you exist and all but just because you can point to an anecdote does not invalidate the premise that N Arlington families don’t want Wakefield.

And how many SA families want YHS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate that we have to have this argument again and again. College admission rates or statistics do not necessarily indicate anything about the teaching or quality of the school. They do show that the student body is likely high income, has educated parents, and values education. Yes, all those things matter when it comes to student experience but it doesn't not necessarily mean your kid is getting a better education.

Similar kids with similar stats are getting into similar schools at all Arlington high schools.

I’m the PP who posted about UVa taking 10% from W&L and YHS. You aren’t correct—at least as to UVa. Check the Arlington magazine numbers. I’m not saying your education is worse at Wakefield or that there aren’t tons of bright kids or that kids aren’t getting in to top schools from Wakefield. I am merely saying what every rational person understands; the population at Wakefield has greater socioeconomic challenges which is reflected in the college outcomes. Period. That’s it. No judgment. But Wakefield people will still get mad. And I also people that it can be advantageous for certain kids who do very well at Wakefield to be coming from the more disadvantaged school (in terms of college placement).

Why are you so quick with your 10% data for WL and YHS and your disparagement of similar from WHS but not bothering to cite the WHS stats? We have to go look those up for ourselves; but you're happy to volunteer the WL/YHS 10%? And 10% of what? Enrolled students or those who applied to UVA?

What does "greater socioeconomic challenges which is reflected in the college outcomes" mean? That coming from lower means = lower acceptance rates? I don't doubt it means lower application rates. Is your definition of "college outcomes" "acceptance rates?"

I guess you don't see how it can be extremely difficult to believe the "no judgement" part. Kids from Wakefield get into top schools because they're top performers in a disadvantaged school. That's not insulting or minimizing at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:25 out of 99 got into UVA from Wakefield vs 41 out of 241 at Yorktown.

So a higher % of Wakefield students got in than Yorktown students? Or do I not know what to do math lol.

Nearly 25% of Wakefield students compared to 17% of Yorktown kids (out of those that applied)

[Anonymous]

NP. My (middle school) son really wants to attend Wakefield to play for its basketball teams with his SA friends, but we're zoned for Yorktown.

I hope after new career center HS is built, we'll all have more flexibility to transfer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:25 out of 99 got into UVA from Wakefield vs 41 out of 241 at Yorktown.

So a higher % of Wakefield students got in than Yorktown students? Or do I not know what to do math lol.

Nearly 25% of Wakefield students compared to 17% of Yorktown kids (out of those that applied)

That’s one way to do math. Another might be: Yorktown sends twice as many students do the state’s flagship university. But you do your math!