Dates and paying bill

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another glaring example of women trying to police what good masculinity is, but God forbid anyone tell them how a "lady" should act?

You have to laugh.

How many times are you going to whine?

DP here. I mean, the guy does have a point Pretty glaring double standard.

When women are not earning 70 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men, then we can talk about glaring double standards.

You know this is fallacious propaganda right? Don't let that stop you though...

Um, no? Women continue to be underpaid vs men, in nearly every level of every profession.

[Anonymous]

Dates are an audition. The kind of guy who wants to split a check is the same kind of guy who is going to want his wife to do every pickup and dropoff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would have covered everything and then broken up with him.

Honey, I’m 45. You don’t need a 41 year old guy. Find a nice guy closer to your age who will feel lucky to be out with you in the first place, and who won’t think twice about paying for a (reasonably priced) meal.

This. When a woman pays or splits the bill she is signaling that she is not interested in you.

I love how women on this forum act like they speak for all women. What a solipsistic demo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another glaring example of women trying to police what good masculinity is, but God forbid anyone tell them how a "lady" should act?

You have to laugh.

How many times are you going to whine?

DP here. I mean, the guy does have a point Pretty glaring double standard.

When women are not earning 70 cents on the dollar for doing the same work as men, then we can talk about glaring double standards.

You know this is fallacious propaganda right? Don't let that stop you though...

Um, no? Women continue to be underpaid vs men, in nearly every level of every profession.

Sigh...not getting into this or derailing this thread. You are too lost in the propaganda.

[Anonymous]

This doesn't sound like a fit. I'd end it nicely and go your ways. You are not getting what you want out of it, and if he was really into you, he would have just said ok to the suggestions about the tip, or said he had it covered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women are all about equality until they date, then they expect the man to pay.

Ladies, quick translation for you. When men say snarky comments like this, they are really saying "I'm broke."

Women are all about equality and being self-sufficient until they date, then they expect to date only men with money and for them to pay for everything.

Early on in a relationship, a lot of the risk is on the woman as far as physical safety. Also, the risk is on the woman if birth control fails. If a woman dates too much she is labeled a slut. Also, it’s often the woman spending more on hair/make up/clothing because men expect a woman to look attractive and put together as one of her main contributions to the dating pool. Truly much of dating is stacked against the woman.

But some men want to focus on the parity of how the bill is paid without acknowledging any of this.

[Anonymous]

I never offered to pay on early dates that a man asked me for. If that bothered a guy, he was free to not ask me for any subsequent dates, but why play games or offer to pay as some sort of test? How is the guy supposed to know if it's a genuine offer (some women do want to pay) or if it's an empty offer he's supposed to know better than to accept? You should have let him pay for your burger and beer, said thank you, and asked him to get ice cream (your treat) after.

Splitting bills is so awkward and unromantic. Nicer to take turns treating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I never offered to pay on early dates that a man asked me for. If that bothered a guy, he was free to not ask me for any subsequent dates, but why play games or offer to pay as some sort of test? How is the guy supposed to know if it's a genuine offer (some women do want to pay) or if it's an empty offer he's supposed to know better than to accept? You should have let him pay for your burger and beer, said thank you, and asked him to get ice cream (your treat) after.

Splitting bills is so awkward and unromantic. Nicer to take turns treating.

I had no problem paying the tip. The tip is 20 percent. And I make about 30 percent what he makes, so I thought that would be a nice gesture, and he is the one who got me to download Venmo. I guess that was my biggest flag. But my offer was not a test. I was happy to pay the tip. The issue is he wanted me to pay more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never offered to pay on early dates that a man asked me for. If that bothered a guy, he was free to not ask me for any subsequent dates, but why play games or offer to pay as some sort of test? How is the guy supposed to know if it's a genuine offer (some women do want to pay) or if it's an empty offer he's supposed to know better than to accept? You should have let him pay for your burger and beer, said thank you, and asked him to get ice cream (your treat) after.

Splitting bills is so awkward and unromantic. Nicer to take turns treating.

I had no problem paying the tip. The tip is 20 percent. And I make about 30 percent what he makes, so I thought that would be a nice gesture, and he is the one who got me to download Venmo. I guess that was my biggest flag. But my offer was not a test. I was happy to pay the tip. The issue is he wanted me to pay more.

He sounds cheap and severely lacking in social skills.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never offered to pay on early dates that a man asked me for. If that bothered a guy, he was free to not ask me for any subsequent dates, but why play games or offer to pay as some sort of test? How is the guy supposed to know if it's a genuine offer (some women do want to pay) or if it's an empty offer he's supposed to know better than to accept? You should have let him pay for your burger and beer, said thank you, and asked him to get ice cream (your treat) after.

Splitting bills is so awkward and unromantic. Nicer to take turns treating.

I had no problem paying the tip. The tip is 20 percent. And I make about 30 percent what he makes, so I thought that would be a nice gesture, and he is the one who got me to download Venmo. I guess that was my biggest flag. But my offer was not a test. I was happy to pay the tip. The issue is he wanted me to pay more.

WHAT WHAT WHAT. Girlie pop. He made you download Venmo ON YOUR DATE so you could pay the tip?! No. No no no no no no no.

He is 41 years old and makes triple what you make and he's getting some 20something to download Venmo so she can pay the tip on burgers and beer? How much was that, $10? Sad.

Time for you to get back on the apps.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never offered to pay on early dates that a man asked me for. If that bothered a guy, he was free to not ask me for any subsequent dates, but why play games or offer to pay as some sort of test? How is the guy supposed to know if it's a genuine offer (some women do want to pay) or if it's an empty offer he's supposed to know better than to accept? You should have let him pay for your burger and beer, said thank you, and asked him to get ice cream (your treat) after.

Splitting bills is so awkward and unromantic. Nicer to take turns treating.

I had no problem paying the tip. The tip is 20 percent. And I make about 30 percent what he makes, so I thought that would be a nice gesture, and he is the one who got me to download Venmo. I guess that was my biggest flag. But my offer was not a test. I was happy to pay the tip. The issue is he wanted me to pay more.

OMFG. Run!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never offered to pay on early dates that a man asked me for. If that bothered a guy, he was free to not ask me for any subsequent dates, but why play games or offer to pay as some sort of test? How is the guy supposed to know if it's a genuine offer (some women do want to pay) or if it's an empty offer he's supposed to know better than to accept? You should have let him pay for your burger and beer, said thank you, and asked him to get ice cream (your treat) after.

Splitting bills is so awkward and unromantic. Nicer to take turns treating.

I had no problem paying the tip. The tip is 20 percent. And I make about 30 percent what he makes, so I thought that would be a nice gesture, and he is the one who got me to download Venmo. I guess that was my biggest flag. But my offer was not a test. I was happy to pay the tip. The issue is he wanted me to pay more.

He sounds cheap and severely lacking in social skills.

OP is lacking in social skills too though. Offering to pay the tip? Ffs. Either pay half/your share OR pay the whole thing. Quibbling over the tip vs. various things on the bill is so awkward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I never offered to pay on early dates that a man asked me for. If that bothered a guy, he was free to not ask me for any subsequent dates, but why play games or offer to pay as some sort of test? How is the guy supposed to know if it's a genuine offer (some women do want to pay) or if it's an empty offer he's supposed to know better than to accept? You should have let him pay for your burger and beer, said thank you, and asked him to get ice cream (your treat) after.

Splitting bills is so awkward and unromantic. Nicer to take turns treating.

I had no problem paying the tip. The tip is 20 percent. And I make about 30 percent what he makes, so I thought that would be a nice gesture, and he is the one who got me to download Venmo. I guess that was my biggest flag. But my offer was not a test. I was happy to pay the tip. The issue is he wanted me to pay more.

He sounds cheap and severely lacking in social skills.

OP is lacking in social skills too though. Offering to pay the tip? Ffs. Either pay half/your share OR pay the whole thing. Quibbling over the tip vs. various things on the bill is so awkward.

Actually, I think paying a tip is a fairly common gesture, but usually made by people who have cash to do so since it saves the payor from having to add it to their credit card bill.

So, the bill is $50 and you have a 10-spot and you put down your tenner and the payor writes "cash" in the tipline and pays $50.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never offered to pay on early dates that a man asked me for. If that bothered a guy, he was free to not ask me for any subsequent dates, but why play games or offer to pay as some sort of test? How is the guy supposed to know if it's a genuine offer (some women do want to pay) or if it's an empty offer he's supposed to know better than to accept? You should have let him pay for your burger and beer, said thank you, and asked him to get ice cream (your treat) after.

Splitting bills is so awkward and unromantic. Nicer to take turns treating.

I had no problem paying the tip. The tip is 20 percent. And I make about 30 percent what he makes, so I thought that would be a nice gesture, and he is the one who got me to download Venmo. I guess that was my biggest flag. But my offer was not a test. I was happy to pay the tip. The issue is he wanted me to pay more.

He sounds cheap and severely lacking in social skills.

OP is lacking in social skills too though. Offering to pay the tip? Ffs. Either pay half/your share OR pay the whole thing. Quibbling over the tip vs. various things on the bill is so awkward.

Actually, I think paying a tip is a fairly common gesture, but usually made by people who have cash to do so since it saves the payor from having to add it to their credit card bill.

So, the bill is $50 and you have a 10-spot and you put down your tenner and the payor writes "cash" in the tipline and pays $50.

Sure but that's not what she offered to do. She Venmo'd him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never offered to pay on early dates that a man asked me for. If that bothered a guy, he was free to not ask me for any subsequent dates, but why play games or offer to pay as some sort of test? How is the guy supposed to know if it's a genuine offer (some women do want to pay) or if it's an empty offer he's supposed to know better than to accept? You should have let him pay for your burger and beer, said thank you, and asked him to get ice cream (your treat) after.

Splitting bills is so awkward and unromantic. Nicer to take turns treating.

I had no problem paying the tip. The tip is 20 percent. And I make about 30 percent what he makes, so I thought that would be a nice gesture, and he is the one who got me to download Venmo. I guess that was my biggest flag. But my offer was not a test. I was happy to pay the tip. The issue is he wanted me to pay more.

He sounds cheap and severely lacking in social skills.

OP is lacking in social skills too though. Offering to pay the tip? Ffs. Either pay half/your share OR pay the whole thing. Quibbling over the tip vs. various things on the bill is so awkward.

Actually, I think paying a tip is a fairly common gesture, but usually made by people who have cash to do so since it saves the payor from having to add it to their credit card bill.

So, the bill is $50 and you have a 10-spot and you put down your tenner and the payor writes "cash" in the tipline and pays $50.

Sure but that's not what she offered to do. She Venmo'd him.

DP - maybe she had enough cash on hand to cover the tip but not enough to cover the beers or whatever it was he asked her to pay for.