Ugh absolutely not!
Any attraction I had for him would have been instantly gone. |
OP here. Is 29 too young to have a child in daycare...? |
He was in a relationship with her but not a long term serious one. 7 months or so? |
OP again. I have a 4 year old AND 6 year old, if that makes you shake in your boots even more. But at least they have the same father I guess, if that makes you see it as less trashy? |
I am a fifty-four year old woman & I think the man (age/income does not matter) should only pay for the first 2-3 dates if this includes a dinner + maybe a movie or a show afterward.
After that - I would expect our dates to be Dutch. If the guy offered to pay for the majority of our dates out > as a thank you, I would insist on cooking for him when we eat in or pay for a good movie from my TV service. It appears this guy is tired of always covering the cost of your dates out and he is being passive/aggressive by complimenting the hostess’s nails. He should have just addressed his financial issues w/you directly but it appears that he cannot for some reason. If you would like to continue seeing this guy, then I strongly encourage you both to discuss who will pay for what re: future dates. Good luck! |
On all of my Dates, I request completely separate checks In Advance. I find the only women who object to it are Liberals. Isn't that interesting. |
OP here - did you miss the part where I cooked for him twice (on my dime), paid for movie theater tickets (he did not buy the snacks) and paid for snacks at a ball game? This is half the dates right there. Just saying, since you said you would be cooking and paying for a movie as if I did not say that in my original post... |
The issue with that is that he might be dating cute 30 year olds in parallel to you and paying for them. You de-facto are subsidizing a man two-timing you giving him a higher dating budget. I wouldn’t pay anything until we are exclusive. Exclusive to me means having sex, regular at each others homes, were introduced to friends and family etc. |
Good luck finding your princess. You’ll have really tough time. I dated men who were younger and made less than me. All of them paid for me at dates. It’s a social norm as men and women are not equals. Really. |
So you do this with your friends as well? |
I am a conservative woman and I would object. How tacky. |
Guy here and if I saw this at a table next to me I would advise the woman to run. |
That is interesting, considering conservative women typically have more traditional values and appreciate gender norms more. I highly doubt they are fine splitting the bill with you (and frankly I agree with them - gentlemen always pay on a first date). Then again, you're probably an internet troll whose most recent date was his hand, so. |
I am “a liberal woman” which means I believe in equity.equality I guess. Part of equity in male/female is recognizing our unequal economics and also I happen to sort be dating in a transition era from “men earn and pay” to “women are starting to earn more”. I don’t happen to be a high earner so it’s kind for the the other person to extend themselves as a gesture of appreciation warmth respect for my existence. If I was the much higher earner I would pay. In fact when I’m out with friends who i know earn less than I do, I often treat for lunch/coffee break etc. it’s just normal warmth and etiquette that’s hard to quantify. It’s just being nice!!! Sheesh people. |
I’m a higher earner female PP. I do treat my friends who I know make less. But I won’t pay for a man on dates unless we are exclusive. It’s just no way I’ll open my wallet and offer to cover the dinner. It’s his expense dating a variety of women, period. I know that I’m not dating any other men by the time he invited me for a dinner. But he (in my experience) might be still in active search well into 2-3 months with me (even if already physical with me ). Men play dating dirty particular on OLD. Most of them have a “backup” lady or I’m the “backup”. Thus I won’t cross subsidize this behavior. This is totally different from treating friends. Men you date are not your friends, by far! Many I seeking to use your good gestures and it takes time to separate seeds from chaff. Btw my first dates are always free to men (a coffee, a park walk, a board game etc). I never accept dinner invites right away as I want him to decide on options first. |