Sound of Freedom - What are they up to?

[Anonymous]

I don’t much care about the politics of actors or producers (or musicians, comics, painters, or athletes).

While sex trafficking is also clearly a bad thing, it’s also not at the top of my list of daily concerns.

But if it’s a good movie (which it seems to be based on the reviews I’ve read and ticket sales), what exactly is the problem with going to see it? The main actor sounds like kind of a nut. So what? I have the sense Tom Cruise is pretty far out there and I love pretty much every movie he’s ever been in.

Frankly, the PPs in this thread foaming at the mouth about “sheeple” being “lured in” by what seems like a pretty mainstream movie—it’s at the AMC!—are the ones who sound unhinged to me.

[Anonymous]

The politics are these: border policies contribute to the problem. The Internet and Dark Web contribute to the problem. According to the movie producers, the US is the biggest consumer. The producers of the movie have stated they are against the idea of children of a certain age consenting to gender affirming treatments and surgeries because it is a slippery slope to lower the age of consent a child gives to an adult to have sex.

The movie producers hold strong views, religious and political, about other controversial subjects, not just human trafficking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People on this thread are lying.

Humans in sears at these theaters have been basically zero sold out shows have no humans waking in FACT

So some org is buying sears and inflating numbers .

The mob does this to launder monies…,

Anyone who did see this and thinks it’s factual is a complete and utter joke.

Do your homework this is not hard the propaganda machine is working over time.

Donnie has been informed with other Republicans indictments are coming. Trumps last tweet confirms. Maga morons

Not to mention Flynn not Mikey not a happy camper right now. .

DP. And let's be clear, it's not like child sex trafficking has been suddenly discovered by the woke wingnut Right crew after being ignored by everybody else for years.

THORN has been going strong for over a decade, including developing revolutionary software with real and widespread effectiveness, shared with LEOs already doing the work. The founders have advocated for these children before Congress.

RAINN has been working with child and adult victims for almost 3 decades, and they run the hotline for the DoD. They are the largest nonprofit of this kind in the US, and as a nonprofit (and like THORN), they have been transparent about finances.

There isn't a hole to be filled here, unless you want to promote something else for other reasons. Fair enough, but let's not pretend about what you are doing.

Are you saying that no one needs to be making any films, movies, presentations, etc about this topic? It's all been done?

Nope. I'm asking how involved you were with the well-established and most effective fighters against child sex trafficking BEFORE this movie -- or is it a woke fad thing for you?

DP. I donate to THORN. But, I am not opposed to this movie. Raising awareness about trafficking is good.

[Anonymous]

I see nothing wrong with this movie. What I say wrong is this manufactured outrage that the right wing nut jobs are saying that liberals have against this movie. The only place I've heard about this movie has been on conservative tiktok where they talk about how theater companies are making the screening rooms too warm to watch the movie and weird stuff like that. I read the New York Times in the Washington post and I have not read anything about this movie, positive or negative. So this is once again, manufactured outrage by the right wing nut jobs. They like to whip up their populace about something to be outraged about and this is the latest outrage. Don't right wing people get tired of constantly being outraged and feeling like a victim?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see nothing wrong with this movie. What I say wrong is this manufactured outrage that the right wing nut jobs are saying that liberals have against this movie. The only place I've heard about this movie has been on conservative tiktok where they talk about how theater companies are making the screening rooms too warm to watch the movie and weird stuff like that. I read the New York Times in the Washington post and I have not read anything about this movie, positive or negative. So this is once again, manufactured outrage by the right wing nut jobs. They like to whip up their populace about something to be outraged about and this is the latest outrage. Don't right wing people get tired of constantly being outraged and feeling like a victim?

You can see for yourself all the headlines from various liberal media outlets discrediting this movie despite positive reviews from both movie critics and audience reviews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see nothing wrong with this movie. What I say wrong is this manufactured outrage that the right wing nut jobs are saying that liberals have against this movie. The only place I've heard about this movie has been on conservative tiktok where they talk about how theater companies are making the screening rooms too warm to watch the movie and weird stuff like that. I read the New York Times in the Washington post and I have not read anything about this movie, positive or negative. So this is once again, manufactured outrage by the right wing nut jobs. They like to whip up their populace about something to be outraged about and this is the latest outrage. Don't right wing people get tired of constantly being outraged and feeling like a victim?

You can see for yourself all the headlines from various liberal media outlets discrediting this movie despite positive reviews from both movie critics and audience reviews.

Thank you!!

[Anonymous]

It’s a terrific movie and if it doesn’t
make you sick to your stomach, you have no soul.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see nothing wrong with this movie. What I say wrong is this manufactured outrage that the right wing nut jobs are saying that liberals have against this movie. The only place I've heard about this movie has been on conservative tiktok where they talk about how theater companies are making the screening rooms too warm to watch the movie and weird stuff like that. I read the New York Times in the Washington post and I have not read anything about this movie, positive or negative. So this is once again, manufactured outrage by the right wing nut jobs. They like to whip up their populace about something to be outraged about and this is the latest outrage. Don't right wing people get tired of constantly being outraged and feeling like a victim?

You can see for yourself all the headlines from various liberal media outlets discrediting this movie despite positive reviews from both movie critics and audience reviews.

I read the headlines. They are calling it a blockbuster hit. And other such things. They mentioned that the main sponsor is a Qanon adjacent person, but the actual headlines say things like surprise hit, etc. That doesn't look negative Again manufactured outrage

[Anonymous]

People who have cynically cried wolf before have no credibility.

When you are considering whether to believe any allegation, you have to consider the source. If it is a source that has lied before and insists that everyone in authority or established is hiding the truth, you may well be dealing with a whack job trying to sell you something for nefarious purposes. If that group is a well-known whack job collective like QAnon, well...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who have cynically cried wolf before have no credibility.

When you are considering whether to believe any allegation, you have to consider the source. If it is a source that has lied before and insists that everyone in authority or established is hiding the truth, you may well be dealing with a whack job trying to sell you something for nefarious purposes. If that group is a well-known whack job collective like QAnon, well...

What are you talking about? This movie is based on a true story and the script was written in 2015 before QAnon was even a thing. I really wonder what is wrong with people who are trying to discredit this movie when it is opening people's eyes up to the reality of human trafficking. Young children are literally being sold and raped and we have people on here talking about QAnon.

[Anonymous]

For discussion of this movie's connections to QAnon and conspiracy theories: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2023/07/11/box-office-hit-sound-of-freedom-controversy-including-qanon-ties-and-false-claims-theaters-are-sabotaging-screenings-explained/amp/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t seen it, but there is a trailer for it, so it can’t be that secretive. It was made Angel Studios who I would assume do mostly Christian based programming & probably don’t have very big budgets.

It’s based on a true story of Tim Ballard who I have read about. He worked for Homeland Security and then founded Operation Underground Railroad to rescue kids from human trafficking.

There are extremists on most issues, but that doesn’t mean that it invalidates the issue itself. I don’t think this has anything to do with qanon beliefs even if qanon people are getting behind it.

I would hope that we can all agree that human trafficking is real & horrendous & needs to be addressed. I can’t imagine not supporting anyone doing what they can to help with that issue even if I didn’t agree with all of their beliefs.

Apparently quite a bit of his story has been exaggerated. And yes, there is child trafficking but there are also issues with child prostitution ( lots of kids kicked out, LBGTQ, and drugs), which has been conflated with trafficking in terms of secret rings, etc , and that just isn't true. This story isn't the whole truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who have cynically cried wolf before have no credibility.

When you are considering whether to believe any allegation, you have to consider the source. If it is a source that has lied before and insists that everyone in authority or established is hiding the truth, you may well be dealing with a whack job trying to sell you something for nefarious purposes. If that group is a well-known whack job collective like QAnon, well...

What are you talking about? This movie is based on a true story and the script was written in 2015 before QAnon was even a thing. I really wonder what is wrong with people who are trying to discredit this movie when it is opening people's eyes up to the reality of human trafficking. Young children are literally being sold and raped and we have people on here talking about QAnon.

This movie does need a fair amount of discrediting and the QAnon stuff was getting started, in various ways, long before you think.

[Anonymous]

I can handle a lot of things, but the thought of crimes against children immediately makes me tear up. The fact that someone is making money off a movie about such a serious subject makes me so angry. People in the theater munching away on popcorn then saying “wow so powerful” and never actually doing anything. Just ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see nothing wrong with this movie. What I say wrong is this manufactured outrage that the right wing nut jobs are saying that liberals have against this movie. The only place I've heard about this movie has been on conservative tiktok where they talk about how theater companies are making the screening rooms too warm to watch the movie and weird stuff like that. I read the New York Times in the Washington post and I have not read anything about this movie, positive or negative. So this is once again, manufactured outrage by the right wing nut jobs. They like to whip up their populace about something to be outraged about and this is the latest outrage. Don't right wing people get tired of constantly being outraged and feeling like a victim?

To be fair, we brought the kids to see the new Indiana Jones movie and the theater was super warm. We were all sweating by the end of the movie.

So I believe them when they say the Sound of Freedom theater was hot. But its more likely that they are just trying to save $ on A/C